Well, as I mentioned somewhere in this thread, since I wrote the original OP in GQ, I have re-established contact with two of my siblings. We have spoken by phone at least once a week. One is even making a visit to my house later this summber, which is a first. That is pretty healthy to me if you consider where it’s been. One sibling has still rebuffed my attempts. But, that is their personal choice. You are right about one thing. It’s not healthy by normal standards. But by mine, it’s come very far.
<sigh> I’ll admit, I’m impressed. You folks will spend as much time as needed to prove your theory that I’m a troll. :rolleyes:
For the record, she is currently 13 going on 14. The mistake is in the OP. I may have fat-fingered the number, (or I have left subtle clues to see how smart you all are. I just wanted to start a thread to get everyone in a twist.) I may have even made other typos ( :eek: the horror! Flog him!). The grabbing incident happened when she was 12 (hence the “years”. It’s been close to two). Sorry for the confusion, and sorry if there are places in the thread where I failed to correct anyone.
As I’ve mentioned a number of times, the OP was written in haste after a long talk with my wife. It should have been **much ** tighter, especially considering the topic. I’ve taken many deserved lumps for that. I didn’t realize I mistyped her age. My mistake.
I will remember that if I ever post an OP again. Since my guest membership runs out in a week, I’m guessing the odds fo that are slim. I’m fascinated by this “trolling” concept. What purpose does it serve on an anonymous message board?
But FWIW, I have received some great advice that has been very helpful (both on the subject at hand and how to post)… so I don’t regret posting the OP, although I **do ** regret not doing a better job of it.
Like ordinary people, some internet message board moderators are jackasses. They have so little to hang on to in life (hence the free time) that this little bit of psuedo-authority actually goes to their head. Whenever I see those mods that regularly say “Oh if you do that again I will so ban you! Consider this a warning mister!” regarding trivial offenses I actually shake my head in pity. That being said, the SDMB actually has very good mods in general - but there are a few donkies. Maybe Frank is one of them, or maybe he just had a bad day and decided to take his rage out keyboard warrior style. It doesn’t really matter. Just follow their rules and silently ignore them and they’ll go away. Calling them out on it doesn’t help as the other mods and forum sycophants will always defend them and your thread will derail quick with no resolution.
Anyhoo, here’s hoping you stay kurahee. Sock or not, you’ve given me something to do while ill. I look forward to your future adventures.
I’ve got to admit you’re not selling your side of the story very well. Ok, maybe you typoed and you meant to write 14 instead of 12 in your OP - but at least 2 and 4 are not next to each other on the keyboard…
Second, it might have been because your mind was circulating around the package-grabbing incident - yet it wasn’t important enough to warrant a mention in the OP?
If the jumble’s just because you were distraught - that’s OK. But as you already stated a worked through OP might better your case/keep the discussion focused in the future. Now I know you’re not planning to stay, but you may change your mind. Indeed why let one incident with one mod scare you off when you’ve had so many useful responses to compare it with?
As for the situation at hand - you’ve really got nothing on your BIL. Your SIL sounds like she has issues though. The only advice I can offer is be there for the kids - it’s clear their parents are not ideal (no matter if there is or isn’t sexual abuse going on) and a healthy pair of adult rolemodels can only help the kids.
Just 2 cents from someone new to this thread.
-Tikster
Any future adventures won’t be in this thread, however. I’ve requested it to be closed. I think the folks that have given me honest advice have done so with the best intent. I don’t think there is much more that can be said on either side that hasn’t already been expressed.
I’m disappointed in some members of the board, and one moderator in particular. I really have no idea why **Frank ** decided to get so personal. However, the good far outweigh the bad here.
It has surprised me how the attack dogs have come out, though. Is a new member only permitted to post innocuous threads like “what’s your favorite TV show?” Since I’m a guest, I’m accused of being a troll, sock, or any other number of things. That’s sad. It seems that if I had “member” under my name (or even better, a “charter member”), perhaps the thread would have been taken more seriously. If I had “moderator” under my name, I could threaten people with banning, imply they were trolls, and move the thread when I felt that I could no longer moderate it effectively. As a “guest”, it seems best to stick to fluff. But I have a strong suspicion that if **Frank ** started a thread like this, it would not have been derailed by another moderator, charter member, member, **guest ** or any other titles floating around the SDMB.
In any event, in between all the BS, there is some good advice in the thread. I’ve read it all. And it has given me a few perspectives that I didn’t have before. That’s a good thing.
Finally,
Read it again. She’s 13, not 14. The 3 and the 2 are next to each other on my keyboard.
The burden of proof is on you to show where he has accused anyone of anything. Are his suspicions unfounded? Perhaps. However, that is incindental to to your claim that he has made any acusations.
Bonus points for ignoring posts that are not addressed to you. No need cluttering up your mind with all those other points of view.
The purpose of this thread is to decide whether he should make that accusation. Do you disagree there? How you can demand proof that he implied the BIL is into child porn when it’s in the very title of the thread, I don’t know. Furthermore, even more evidence of it is available right in this thread, so don’t you dare tell me it’s my responsibility to READ THE FUCKING THREAD FOR YOU and requote it. The accusation I was referring to, in my original comment that you object so strongly to, is the hypothetical one the OP is deciding whether to make, and the one implied** by the very title of this thread** and other of his comments already pointed out.
I agree that he has only implied, hinted, suggested, suspected and discussed the possibility that his BIL might be into child porn. I still think even doing those things alone is absurd based on the nothing he’s offered in support of it.
Well, since you were talking about people determined to prove that the OP is lying, and those who think the lack of evidence means he is lying, you obviously must know that you were NOT talking ot me, right? Because you have read this thread, surely, despite your seeming lack of knowledge of its contents.
I thought there was something fishy about kurahee ever since he mentioned in the second post of this thread that the package-grabbing had “slipped his mind” temporarily. That didn’t ring true, especially concerning an incident which he found so disturbing.
Now, with the eternal 12-year old, his credibility has dropped to zero. About the only way he could make his character clearer would be to mark his Location: “Under a bridge”.
I’m starting to wonder about the mental stability of the freaks who have nothing better to do than scan a 6 page thread for typos and mistakes. I’ve explained them. Feel free to agree or disagree.
Christ almighty. I wrote an OP after a long discussion with my wife. I left out a number of things in that OP. I admitted that (and apologized) in subsequent posts. It was a hairy one to begin with. If I said she grabbed my package in the OP does that give the story credibility?
Let it go. Let the thread die. It will be better for all of you trolling around the SDMB to find another nasty person on here to ruffle your feathers.
In comparison, my SIL is starting to look sane.
Imagine it’s all made up. Fine. I was soliciting opinions. Since you don’t know who my BIL is, it is just a story to you anyway, right? Tell me what you think based on what I’ve listed.
Many people have. We’ve not contacted anyone. I think for now that’s the right move. I got what I came for.
The thing that really pisses me off is that there is a niece who may be in trouble. But many of you just want to pull me apart. I’m not the one who may be in danger.
There’s no niece in danger. There’s just you spinning stories. In addition to the general bullshittiness of your stories and the continuity errors that have been pointed out, you display other prominent traits of trolls:
Extremely inflammatory language
Accusing other members of fearing the moderators, while you take a more “courageous” stand.
Drama-queening and casting yourself as a victim.
Accusing those who point out your trollery of being trolls. I won’t bother with quotes, as virtually every one of your responses to me has been that very accusation.
You’ve shot your wad with this particular pack of lies, troll. Time to get a new throw-away email and start anew. Maybe next time you should sit down before hand and write out the details of your lies so that you don’t fuck yourself in the ass as you go along like you did in this thread.
I don’t think you’re a troll. Delusional, perhaps. But not a troll. (BTW, the mods have “secret methods” of determining whether someone is a “sock puppet” or not, I assume they have checked by now and you’re still here, so…)
As for your little tiff with Frank, here’s how I parse what happened:
(1) Frank, speaking as a member only, expressed his opinion in a manner which sounded like a personal attack, but was within the rules of the IMHO forum. (It’s okay to attack someone’s ideas, and many of us long-term Dopers know how close we can creep up to that line w/o crossing it.)
(2) You replied by calling Frank an idiot – a direct personal attack, outright violation of the rules.
(3) Frank assumed his moderator duty and issue a warning. From that moment on, Frank had no choice but to take a “referee” position, and withheld his personal feelings from this thread, although clearly, he wanted to express them.
(4) For whatever reason, Frank decided to hand this thread off to another forum, just so he wouldn’t have to deal with it anymore. Notice, how he hasn’t been back since – if he really wanted to engage you personally, he would be here.
I’ve seen moderators abuse their authority. It’s ugly shit…there’s almost nothing you can do about it, except wait for them to get bored and find another target. However, I haven’t witnessed any power-hungry mod tactics in years (not since the “Stage Manager” incident, anyway.)
Until you can grasp the difference between an implication, a suspicion, and an acusation we probably will be talking at cross purposes. Here is a hint. I never demanded proof of an implication.
I just found it amusing that you felt it necessary to state that you were ignoring something. Sort of undermines the statement, ya know? Often people will just quote the part of the post to which they are responding, and leave out the part they are “ignoring.” YMMV.
I suppose I wasn’t clear enough. I acknowledge that he has not yet made an accusation. I state that he was debating, in this thread, whether to make one, and it was that hypothetical accusation to which I referred. Do you deny that the purpose of this thread was to determine whether he should make an accusation?
You did? Were you laughing? Well, laughter is good for the spirit, so I’m happy to hear you were amused.
And thanks for the advice. I thought you were intelligent enough, and experienced enough with conversation, to recognize that my use of “ignore” was not literal, and that the intent of my statement was in fact to point out that your comments did not apply to me.
In fact, not to call you a patronizing assface or anything, I rather suspect you did understand my meaning, and you’re now feigning ignorance in order to take a pathetic parting shot. Could that be the case, or should I just confine myself to simple, literal statements with you from now on, so as to assist your comprehension?
Probably somewhere in between. I did know what you meant and was having a bit of fun at your expense. No need for you to be ultra literal in the future.
Pretty much sucks that I was both condescending and pathetic. I mean, if a bloke is going to condescend he ought to do it from a bit of a superior position, no?
