Alberta, Natural Resources, and the Rest of Canada

I’m in Ontario, we are not big beneficiaries of equalization payments. That doesn’t change my belief that Canada is stronger with all of us.

Minus Alberta, guess who takes up the slack?

And when the fossil fuel bonanza stops …Alberta as usual has nothing to turn to and can’t foot the bill to clean up after itself. :face_with_symbols_on_mouth: and isn’t now.

Cleaning up Alberta’s oil and gas infrastructure carries an estimated liability ranging from $40 billion to over $260 billion****. This massive cost covers hundreds of thousands of inactive wells, extensive pipeline networks, and toxic oil sands tailings ponds left behind by the industry

“Oh, that’s just fear-mongering”

Response to any post that contains factual information.

Alberta sovereignty delegation to US confirmed

Calgary lawyer Jeffrey Rath earlier told the Western Standard of an initiative to send a delegation to Washington to gauge the Trump administration on its support of Alberta statehood or Alberta becoming the 51st state or a US territory.

Alberta separatists won’t say which Trump officials they met with

While an Alberta separatist group confirms it had meetings with U.S. officials over the past year, its leaders won’t say which members of U.S. President Donald Trump’s administration they have spoken with directly.

“We’re meeting at a very high level,” Alberta Prosperity Project legal counsel Jeffrey Rath said in an interview with CTV’s Question Period airing Sunday.

David Parker, owing hundreds of thousands in fines for violations of Elections Alberta laws, is still in hiding.
Perhaps he does not want to be questioned by the RCMP for his theft of data on every single voter in Alberta and the subsequent leaking of this data to the separatist petition gatherers.

The Vanishing of David Parker: Inside the Centurion Project, the Texas Connections, and Alberta’s Escalating Separatist Crisis

And good old boy Mitch Sylvestre,

openly embraces the far-fetched and racist great replacement theory—the idea that evil elites are trying to replace, as Sylvestre puts it, “old stock white Canadians.” He has also suggested that citizenship should be restricted to “people who are born here.”

Great idea Mitch. Tell 60% of your population that they will not be entitled to citizenship if they vote to separate.

Mitch sure sounds like he’s fear-mongering to me.

So, your contention is that Canada will clean it up when the bonanza stops? Quebec has avoided the issue by not developing its oil and gas. Rather it just takes a cut off of Alberta. Maybe they will pay for the clean up? Or maybe the $20+B we send to Ottawa could be used to clean it up?
What is the point of your post?

Equalization, as currently implemented following the expert panel recommendations from 2006 (Members includes 2 from the University of Alberta: Al O’Brien (Chair) Fellow, Institute of Public Economics, University of Alberta, and Mike Percy Dean, School of Business, University of Alberta) models fiscal capacity across the provinces/territories and arrives at a national average.

Given the weight Ontario brings by virtues of making up 38% of tax payers and 41% of net federal tax income, it may still sit at the margin of have/have not. That would leave BC and possibly Saskatchewan in the position they currently have. However with the issues with weakness in Manitoba and the Atlantic provinces it is possible that Quebec rolls into have status as well.

It is fairly obvious that if Alberta is looking to pay less into federal income tax (and provinces do not pay into federal income taxes) it should start insisting that Canadians working in Alberta need to declare residency in Saskatchewan.

If the standard is that a political position can be dismissed by pointing to scandals, bad conduct, or offensive statements by people associated with it, then that standard has to apply equally.

Many of the same people attacking Alberta independence have openly supported the Liberal Party and the current federal government. That government has its own record of serious controversies: blackface, ethics violations, paid vacations, SNC-Lavalin, ArriveCAN, and the Emergencies Act response to the trucker protests, which a Federal Court later found unreasonable and unconstitutional.

But I do not say that every Liberal voter is responsible for every Liberal scandal.

So why should every person who supports an Alberta referendum be made responsible for every controversial person who also supports separation?

If someone broke the law, investigate it. If someone said something offensive, criticize it. But that is not a substitute for debating the actual question.

The issue is whether Albertans should be allowed to vote on their political future, and whether Canada would negotiate fairly if they gave a clear answer.

A political movement should be judged on its ideas and proposals, not solely on the statements or actions of particular individuals who support it.

“Please don’t judge us by our shitty and grifting leaders”

I think that’s what I said. None of these leaders run our country like the leaders the other side supports. have and do. PM blackface with countless scandals and the current one, PM ‘It doesn’t matter’ and ‘MPs are only useful for votes’.

But yeah please post about a guy who initially was for joining the US and has since openly admitted he has changed his stance. Had he violated the rights of fellow citizens? No, he has worked supporting those rights including the rights of citizens who currently disagree with him. Such a horrible person.