As long as it wasn’t a wide-spread spamming job, I don’t think you’ll get in trouble for it. I was just trying to let you know before you went posting the same thing in all the Pit threads about other posters. (And Lord knows, that would be a lot)
With all due respect to Hamlet, and none whatsoever to treis, I have to back Sua on this one. Sometimes, a little personal criticism in GD is a good thing. december has been unusually irrational in the last couple weeks. Yes, Sua was snotty, but it was well-deserved snottiness that will hopefully lead to a little reflection and self-awareness on the part of the listener. And that, fellow debaters, is a good thing for all of us every once in a while. The injunction is on being a jerk, not being occasionally disdainful.
[sub]I swear by all that is holy and sacred about the law that one day I will file a Rule 12(b)(6) Motion to Fuggedaboudit.[/sub]
So does this mean that I am not even a real Trotskyite but rather a mere ‘trotsky’ like poseur?
Else, I wish to add that I support minty green’s notation that
If only to bring home to the idjit in question that he is in fact not even rising to the bare minimium of debate.
Otherwise, Sua man, stand up for Brooklyn Law man. Some of the best lawyers I’ve ever had to deal with professionally came from there. (I actually mean that.) Much better to deal with than say the Columbia Law folks etc. Speaking as a client. (or rather agent thereof.)
Agree. Most CL grads I have dealt with in my profession have rubbed me quite the wrong way. But they still aren’t as bad as those who carry the Cardozo Chip on their shoulders. Man, Cardozo people are insufferable.
And I thought I was in genteel company: drug addicts, political radicals, pornographers, assassins, homosexuals, the right sort of people, don’t you know.
Note to Coll It’s Trotskyist, not Trotskyite. This was covered in the Playboy Advisor, Dec. '99, I’m surprised you missed it. Must have been distracted by the Armani ads.
Hey, you’re the one that wanted that captured all the contradictions
But seriously, when I asked one of them to explain to me what it meant, my eyes glazed over after about an hour of dogmatic gobbledygook and I came to the conclusion that it’s a typical maoist Newspeak expression (use all the negative* buzzwords you can think of, so that you’ll never be wrong).
Forget Geraldo Rivera. My younger brother is presently enrolled there. When he graduates and makes his mark on the world, then you’ll really have something to be proud of.
Now you know very well that where I’ve been working we don’t (easily) get that sort of thing.
Besides, I’ve always prefered European publications when abroad.
Aside: Now Maeglin I don’t mean to bust specifically on Columbia Law but on the other hand the newly minted ones were some of the most insufferable know-nothings I had to deal with.
(On the other hand I’m sure that they appreciated my constant “I dunno, wasn’t here then” “I don’t recall, hell I don’t recall what I did last week” and “I have no idea where such records would be kept” responses. All largely contrived to stay the hell away from the stinking morass that was litigation. Of course I really do have the memory and attention span of a small central park squirrel)
No offense taken. I went there undergrad, not law school. I just work in the legal industry now and an ashamed at the way some of the young 'uns behave.
I particularly relish it when Columbia (or Yale, Penn, whatever) first year associates, who are perhaps eighteen months older than me, try to push me around. They usually change their tune when either I don’t bother to do their work or they find out that I went to a better undergrad school than they did.
After a quick and violent conflict, we usually get along just peachy.
Afore I went to law school, I worked as a paralegal for a non-profit legal services corporation in Philly. My job was not the usual paralegal cite-checking and document management gig (which I would have sucked at), but instead I represented clients in Social Security and welfare disputes and hearings.
Every summer, we would get a few law students from Penn who came as volunteers. They didn’t try to push me around - I worked pretty much independently - but they definitely had a snobbish air. I used to relish, a few weeks into the summer, the inevitable timid knock on my office door: “Sua, could you explain to me [this or that point of Social Security or welfare law].” “Certainly, my child. Come on in.”
IzzyR, what year? If he’s going to be looking for a summer associate gig or a job, have him drop me a line. An interest in litigation would definitely help - my firm loves the training litigators get at BLS.
Two caveats: Our current hiring cycle is wrapping up, so I wouldn’t be able to help him until next year. Also, I have enough clout to get him in here only if he has good grades.
Maeglin, I hate to disabuse you, but summer associates wield all the power in big law firms.