What I’m wondering is how they’ll handle the “Mugged By Phil” part. If Eric & Jeremy receive a penalty, will they get stripped of all their money & belongings, and will the Hippies get theirs back?
It’s an interesting situation, because technically, it’s “the last person who arrives at the Pit Stop” who gets stripped of all their goods in an NEL. Now, we know that if it was an Elimination Pit Stop, and Eric/Jeremy were penalized, then we would see them get eliminated, after the fact. (It’s happened twice, in previous seasons.)
I suspect that Ginger is telling The Big Cheese to eat poutine while watching TAR in Montreal, since it’s pretty much a mandatory culinary experience if one is visiting La Belle Province.
Speaking of which, ketchup with poutine, Ginger? What kind of freak are you?
I’ve really got nothing to add to race discussion that hasn’t already been said, except to add my name to the list of MoJo haters. I really, really hope that for once a preview meltdown actually leads to elimination.
That had to have been decided during filming, before the mat scene, otherwise they’d have reshot it or edited it. If it was decided afterward, there’d have been a short voice-over with Phil explaining the ruling.
Yeah, I’m slowly started to realize that. That stinks.
Fucking Jeremy. What a bitch. Too bad he didn’t brush up against a stinging tree, while he & Eric were making love in the grass, while the cameras weren’t watching. Now that would have been karma!
I don’t know. Since it was a non-elimination leg, I could imagine them letting the controversy linger for a week to spark some interest among the fans and then announcing a penalty (and subsequent adjustments of possessions and racing funds) at the beginning of next week’s episode.
And whether it’s strictly against the rules or not, it’s a damn shitty way to treat people. I doubt they’d lose any sleep over my opinion of them, but I have no respect for anyone who screws people over just to win a contest and some money.
OK, OK, so I was joking. Everybody knows that Albertans are epicurians when it comes to eating baby. You definitely prefer them with Béarnaise or Béchamel sauce
It would have been better if it would have been posted in this thread
I don’t understand this attitude. This is a competition. Sure they “screwed over” the other teams, they also screw over the other teams when they don’t tell them about another flight, when they snag a cab, when they don’t “help” them in other ways. Competioin is essentialy about screwing over the other players. People who get their feelings hurt by this stuff shouldn’t really be playing.
I don’t understand your attitude, either; and I don’t think competition should be about screwing people over. If you’re boxing and happen to notice the referee looking away, do you knee the other boxer in the groin? Is everything okay as long as you don’t get caught?
If competition is about anything, it should be about testing yourself against some task or opponent to find out your capabilities and your character. You struggle with every ounce of strength you have, and win or lose, you shake hands when it’s over. You can withhold help to make people do things on their own, but sabotage is out of line. Basically, don’t be a jerk; and that principle doesn’t get suspended just because I’m trying to go around the world faster than somebody else.
My feelings aren’t hurt; I’m just saying that they were assholes.
Kneeing someone is the groin is against the rules. I never said it is ok as long as you can get awaywith it. I think it is ok if it is within the rules of the game, which the cab cancelling appears to have been
If competition is about anything, it should be about testing yourself against some task or opponent to find out your capabilities and your character. You struggle with every ounce of strength you have, and win or lose, you shake hands when it’s over. You can withhold help to make people do things on their own, but sabotage is out of line. Basically, don’t be a jerk; and that principle doesn’t get suspended just because I’m trying to go around the world faster than somebody else.
My feelings aren’t hurt; I’m just saying that they were assholes.
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But what is the game? IN football you fake a handoff (play action) and there all sorts of trick plays. In chess youtry to outsmart your opponent. In baseballthere is the hidden ball trick? What is the distinction. I guess the difference is that folks see the Amazing Race more like golf, each player against the course and the best score wins. Then myself (and maybe others) see it as more like football, matching wits and abilites but the teams are interacting. The teams actions are allowed to be interwoven. They can form alliances, they can steal cabs, they can lie to other teams under the guise of helping. So cancelling the other teams cabs is a good strategic move as long as the rules allow.
Over on TWOP, Miss Alli likes to say “This is not that kind of show”, which is wrong. This is still that kind of show, it’s just the opportunity for that is severely limited when compared to a show like Survivor.
Now if it turns out to be determined to be against the rules I will say then they were wrong. But if it isn’t, then they are smart.
Here’s the distinction: sports are 99% constrained by the rules; they’re governed by published rule books. You put on a uniform, take the field, and play – and your actions within the sport are either within the rules, or not.
TAR is 99% real life, 1% rules. These are real people in real world situations, and their only constraints are those extremely limited things like “you can’t take a taxi if the clue says walk.” Other than those exceptions, the contestants actions can be judged by real world standards, not by the standards of the sport – because there aren’t any. So witholding active assistance for a competitor: completely understandable. Actively stabbing a competitor in the back: sneaky, underhanded and reprehensible.
This is where we must agree to disagree. I think it is almost the opposite, 99% game/rules and 1% real life. I just don’t thin kit is reprehensible. More reprehensible in my eyes woudl be BJ and/or Tyler trying to stir something up wrt MOJo and Eric and/or Jeremy (the flirting etc.). That kind of activity has more real world implications in that it could put a real hitch into MoJo’s relationship. Cancelling cabs? Eh. Affects the teams ability to race, but it doesn’t affect them personally.
I saw the cab-cancelling as excessively disruptive to innocent people not participating in the race. Screwing with the taxi company by cancelling others’ cabs falls into the same type of prank as ordering a dozen pizzas delivered to a target. The main victims are not the target of the prank but the pizza parlors (and cab drivers) who won’t be compensated for the malicious abuse of offered services.
Eric and Jeremy: Could honestly care less if they are gay or not. It has no bearing on the game. I do think some of the things they say are being taken out of context by the editors to get interest in the “Are they gay or are they not” thing. I do think they are complete assholes…
As are Monica and her partner. I don’t think there has been someone as whiney as Monica in recent seasons (correct me if I am wrong). Life’s not fair. Get over it.
I am still cheering on BJ and Tyler but have grown fond of Ray and Yolanda.
Monica is not even fit to kiss the hem of Flo’s whining garment. No comparison whatsoever. Yes, Monica is annoying with all her crying, but at least she’s done most of the tasks without complaining. I really think if Joseph weren’t such a cold fish, she’d probably do a lot better. He would just be no fun whatsoever to race with, though; he’s not quite as stuck on “I’m always right and you never are!” as Jonathan, but he’s certainly an inconsiderate asshole. Frankly, they’re both such unpleasant people I hope they stay with each other, but thus far they’re my winners in the “who’ll break up first after the race?” sweepstakes.
