American Idol - Finale

[QUOTE=Dolores Reborn]
I found this article that speaks to some of the issues “stage children” deal with. Interesting!
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Some of them turn to stripping and then write fascinating memoirs about it that are made into great musicals!

(I’m a pretty girl, Momma!)

:smiley:

The Wilson brothers of the Beach Boys were kind of like that, and they turned out OK… well, one of them became a speed freak and another one hung out with Charlie Manson, but, um… never mind.

I worry that Archuleta will have a few years of sustained success, and then about 10 or 15 years down the road, we’ll hear him start to talk about how much he cares for children, visiting pediatric cancer wards, turning his estate into a bizarre amusement park and flying around with young, freshly scrubbed, 12-year-old “friends”…

Living in Japan, I know nothing of the show. However, as I type I’m talking to my aunt who lives in Salt Lake, it turn out that Archuleta lives in down the street from her.

Her kids and grandkids are really excited about it. They had an event at the local high school where he (and some of her grandkids) go to, and they had the show on giant screen. They were passing out cell phones for people to text votes in. A restaurant catered afterwards so that people could stay and vote.

Anyway, I’ve never seen the show, but my aunt wants David A to win.

[QUOTE=Liberal]
Have to agree with Hal. I read some commentary today that credited a large portion of Idol’s success to its multigenerational appeal. I don’t vote, but my sister does, and she’s in her early 60s.
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But - does she vote once or hundreds of times? I’m not suggesting it’s just teenagers that vote. I’m suggesting that it’s teenagers that vote as many times as they possibly can within the 4 hour window.

[QUOTE=Diogenes the Cynic]
I worry that Archuleta will have a few years of sustained success, and then about 10 or 15 years down the road, we’ll hear him start to talk about how much he cares for children, visiting pediatric cancer wards, turning his estate into a bizarre amusement park and flying around with young, freshly scrubbed, 12-year-old “friends”…
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That remark is as sick as it is random. It’s not worth wading through the sewage in these AI threads anymore just to hunt down the occasional insightful comments littered here and there. One thing I’m confident of about David Cook — aside from his great talent and bright future — is that if he were here, he would roundly condemn all the pissy middle-school hatred being hurled at David Archuleta. As I said some time ago, the first word that springs to mind when I think of David Cook is “classy”. People dishonor him when they engage in these irrationally mean-spirited slurs.

[QUOTE=Rachael Rage]
BetsQ, you are there. Standing in your truth. And your light emotion is shining all around you. We are so behind you and your dissertation proposal, because you will never disser-point us because you are a star and deserve all the sunshine and truth and love. And ponies.
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This post was the most entertainment I’ve received from American Idol this season.

Somebody could create a “Paula-speak” website, where you click a button and it generates random words of praise.

And I, too, think that David A looks like Alfred E. Newman.

Seriously, what is wrong with Paula? Is she a total lush? Does she have a speech impediment?

I think many of you will be happy if you take a look right now at DialIdol’s prediction.

[QUOTE=PunditLisa]
Tivoed Simon on “Ellen” and he picked Cook to win. As did Ellen. (Note: This was before the finale.) They both said that Archuleta has been groomed from an early age to do this and as such lacks charisma and life experience necessary to connect with the music. Simon said that he prefers people who’ve been trained in a bar. (I think he loves Karly.)

Oh, and 15 years ago Simon was living with his parents and had $7.00 in his pocket.
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Simon on Ellen on YouTube

[QUOTE=jsc1953]

And I, too, think that David A looks like Alfred E. Newman.
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If Alfred E Newman had a baby with a Monchichi.

My wife and I kid around that David Archuleta looks like Derek Zoolander’s son as a teenager.

He kinda talks like him too.

“Honey, did Archuleta just drop Magnum on us?”

[QUOTE=DudleyGarrett]
My wife and I kid around that David Archuleta looks like Derek Zoolander’s son as a teenager.

He kinda talks like him too.

“Honey, did Archuleta just drop Magnum on us?”
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Er, I meant Archuleta talks like Derek Zoolander.

[QUOTE=jsc1953]
Somebody could create a “Paula-speak” website, where you click a button and it generates random words of praise.
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Can someone do this please? That would be awesome.

“First, you look stunning tonight, my dear!”

(Uh, oh, I must have really screwed the pooch!)

[QUOTE=Liberal]
the first word that springs to mind when I think of David Cook is “classy”. People dishonor him when they engage in these irrationally mean-spirited slurs.
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You’re projecting that onto him just as much as someone who has negative things to say is. None of us know him from Adam.

I said in another thread, and I believe, that he looks like the stereotypical child molestor. Do I believe he molests children? Hell no. Looks aside it’s just statistically very unlikely. It’s the first thing that pops into my mind when I see him, though, and therefore just as valid as your “classy” assessment.

[QUOTE=Liberal]
That remark is as sick as it is random. It’s not worth wading through the sewage in these AI threads anymore just to hunt down the occasional insightful comments littered here and there. One thing I’m confident of about David Cook — aside from his great talent and bright future — is that if he were here, he would roundly condemn all the pissy middle-school hatred being hurled at David Archuleta. As I said some time ago, the first word that springs to mind when I think of David Cook is “classy”. People dishonor him when they engage in these irrationally mean-spirited slurs.
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Relax, I said I “worry” it will happen. I don’t have anything against the kid. I was just commenting in a satirical way about the effects his overly managed childhood and career could eventually have on his life. I haven’t said a bad word about him in these threads. My comment above was really meant to be an elliptical slap at his father.

[QUOTE=shelbo]
Can someone do this please? That would be awesome.

“First, you look stunning tonight, my dear!”

(Uh, oh, I must have really screwed the pooch!)
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Mad magazine used to do stuff like this all the time. You just create a template paragraph with blanks in key words, where the program fills in randomly from a list.

Like (after the obligatory opening, above):

Your (a) is (b)_ tonight. I’m just (c)_ you. I want to (d)_.

Where (a) is one of: radiance/aura/colors/inner beauty/spirit
and
(b) is one of: shining/dazzling/glowing
and
(c) is one of: awestruck by/rendered speechless by/completely in love with
and
(d) is one of: squeeze your head/stuff you in a trunk/chain you to my bed.

You get the idea.

[QUOTE=PunditLisa]
I can’t help but feel maternal towards David A. He genuinely seems like a nice kid but looks completely overwhelmed by the whole experience. I wonder how much of the over-the-top love from the judges is a m/paternal need to protect him from his nutcase father. As far as selling albums (or should we say “iTunes”), it appears that pre-teens dig him. That’s all he needs in this country to enjoy enormous success. Remember that Miley Cyrus is a billionaire with a ‘b’. At least David has actual talent. (I just hope he doesn’t lose his virginity to some 45 year old groupie.)…

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That’s exactly how I feel.

I hope he wins mainly because I think he needs it more. We’ve already seen that the Idol folks, aren’t afraid to put their foot down (to save their own ass but still…), when his dad gets out of control. Who knows what direction his career would take if left to Mr. A.

David Cook will be a star no matter what.

What does the winner actually win, besides a well-oiled career by way of their own recording contract? I hate to see 10% of a million dollars go away in a tithe. Since David A. is still a minor, would they put his money in a trust so that he doesn’t blow it all on “Mormon foreplay” (ice cream at Snelgrove’s) or worse yet, his dad doesn’t get that pimped out F250 he’s been dreaming about?

Do you think David C. could sell hair products and David A. could be spokesboy for lip balm?

Either way it goes, Simon and a few others are counting their cut right now.

[QUOTE=Batsinma Belfry]
That’s exactly how I feel.

I hope he wins mainly because I think he needs it more. We’ve already seen that the Idol folks, aren’t afraid to put their foot down (to save their own ass but still…), when his dad gets out of control. Who knows what direction his career would take if left to Mr. A.
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I was surprised to hear Simon basically say “Yep” and confirm the Papaleta being banned from backstage rumors on Ellen. I said before but it bears repeating, I don’t sense any joy from the kid even though he’s where every teenaged boy dreams of being (well, when I was his age that would have been in Bo & Luke Duke’s dressing room, but fame and impending fortune would have been a second).