That expression wouldn’t just curdle milk, it would rot concrete.
Any attention? She’s a good singer.
Can’t sing if you’re bleeding demised.
Not in my opinion. I bought Back To Black, it has some good moments, but clearly the attention she gets is way out of proportion to her level of talent. It’s only because she’s a train wreck that we hear as much about her as we do. She’s the next Anna Nicole Smith, just not as unintentionally hilarious.
She was getting a lot of attention before her problems with drugs became apparent. Her music obviously isn’t for everyone (no music is), but she is a talented singer and songwriter. Now she gets attention for being a train wreck, but if she had stayed clean she would be just as famous.
Meh. I could name half a dozen female vocalists and songwriters who are vastly more talented but don’t get a tenth of her publicity.
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Yeah, well, life isn’t fair and that’ll always be true. What else is new? 
Completely wrong. She hasn’t produced a new album in three years, and even before that, she was becoming more famous for being a drunk and a druggie than her music. The tipoff is that her best known song is about her addictions. She’s moderately talented but I think a lot of unknowns could have done the same retro sound just as well. It’s made money for her because she’s a famous wreck and people know she’s singing about her real-life problems.
I think the attention comes from her being a slow-motion train wreck in progress - like a car collision, you just can’t look away. I also think that her attitude in the song “Rehab” plays into it - she was arrogant and defensive about her condition in that song, and I think it rubs people the wrong way.
This is what makes me roll my eyes at [some] guys - that they’d hit that even with what she looks like. Ugh.
Duffy and Adele are considered at least in the same realm as Amy Winehouse, music wise (if not Winehouse wannabes), and they seem to be doing quite all right in terms of success and exposure. Assuming you’re looking for coverage of their music, not their clothes, how much they drink, who they’re dating, etc.
I like how my opinion is “completely wrong”, as if opinions are falsifiable, but yours is implicitly correct.
The difference between Amy Winehouse and many of the other talented singers one could name is that Winehouse has the presence and charisma to be a star. It is well established that the biggest stars are usually not the most talented people, but they have some quality that those more talented than they are lack.
Regardless, your rebuttal ignores the part where I said “if she had stayed clean”. She surely would have released more material if she had stayed clean. It is my opinion that, if she was clean, she would be a major star. To quote “High Fidelity”: “How can it be wrong to state an opinion?”
Tell that to Michael Jackson.
It would be a brilliant career move.
Amy Winehouse is the ideal fusion of everything that could be possibly wrong about a woman’ appearance and psychological state of mind. It seems to me that the picture provided to us doesn’t exactly show what she is really like?
If you’d have this riding you in bed, I wouldn’t be surprised if your penis became liquefactive necrotic when you woke up the next day.
I shouldn’t have said it was wrong, but I found it surprising. You appear to be forgetting how much more famous people like Britney Spears have become after their lives went into meltdown mode, that was my point. Look at how well known Spears still is, and then look at women who were making similar music who came on the scene around the same time. Just browising this forum or news Web sites, I couldn’t avoid Spears for years.
Maybe so. I shouldn’t ignore that, but I’m just going on the music I’ve heard her make, which is okay but not that interesting.
She wouldn’t have made her biggest hit if she’d stayed clean. You can speculate that she would have made something even more popular, but I really doubt it.
I rather disagree. Her tats are one of the things that had attracted me to her. I used to have quite the celeb-crush on her. “Used to” being the operative phrase, however. I’ve always had a bit of a weakness for crazy chicks, but she gone way too downhill. I really do pity the girl for f@%king herself up so much.
She’s a disgusting train wreck. But if that’s something that excites you, to each his own. I can’t question a guy’s (or gal’s) sexual tastes… Hell, people get turned on by eating shit! Banging AW is a couple of steps up on the fetish scale.
However, I think Amy Winehouse is a product of a system that can create and destroy “stars”… a system that tells the public who has those qualities you speak of. How on earth would we even know who this person is without the constant reminders of her daily activities? I think you, I, or anyone else on this board could have that presence and charisma you speak of if we were exposed to the same things she has been. Put a publicity machine behind her, a record label that makes money each time an album is sold, and her name gets shoved into our subconscious. I have never knowingly heard an Amy Winehouse song, know nothing about her music, and yet I know who she is and I recognize her trainwreck face. How can that be? She isn’t charasmatic at all. She’s just “out there” in that space that a normal person runs into in their daily lives. She’s a commodity, just like Crest toothpaste.
And since she is such a trainwreck, people gravitate to the story. I don’t know why, but I’m guessing the masses get some enjoyment of watching someone implode in front of their eyes. They say any publicity is good publicity, but I think that’s wrong in her case. She’s a mess, and I personally don’t need to see it.
If she dies of a drug overdose tomorrow, I won’t care. If she lives for 50 years, I won’t care. She’s irrelevant. And when she stops making money for whoever is driving her money bus, they won’t care either.
I think she would have done something better. I’ve heard her album (my ex-wife is a fan). She has musical talent, as evidenced by the songs other than “Rehab,” especially “You Know I’m no Good,” which she wrote (unlike, say, Britney Spears, Amy Winehouse is a songwriter and a good one IMHO) She has a unique voice and musical style.
Her problem is that she’s a drug addict and she has bought into the myth of the creative addict, namely that using either bolsters her creativity or at least does not hinder it. For a lot of artists this is at the very least a polite fiction. Her lack of output over the last three years would seem to bear this out. Like any other addict she’ll have to hit bottom and decide for herself that she has to change her way of life. For her sake I hope she doesn’t overdose first.
And if I were her I’d be getting veneers before bothering with breast enhancement.
She’s no oil painting these days, that’s for sure.
Now that she’s entered the self-sustaining world of celebrity car-crash victim it can be hard to see the talent - some of the posts here on her rise to fame / talent are well wide of the mark IMO. ‘moderately talented’ 
She’d actually be one of the best examples in recent years of someone who first succeeded in UK music purely on their own terms and their own muscial ability - seems rare nowadays. She didn’t win the X-factor, she isn’t some soap star crossing over in their career matrix, and she’s not singing carefully selected, generic pop songs. Her style was actually well outside the mainstream of chart success at the time of her first album.
Maybe by the time she had success in the States she was already going off the rails so people can’t be arsed with one more schizoid pop personality taking up space - But there’s clearly great talent there.
Ewww.
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Could a moderator break that link some more? I am on my iPhone and I just accidentally hit the hyperlinked number when skimming over the post, then accidentally hit the “call” instead of “cancel” and then the “end call” button kept disappearing when I tried to hit it so by the time I could actually end the call I heard a voice on the line. I have no idea whom I just called and I hope my unlimited long distance covers wherever I just called. :smack: