NBN
NBN - what the fuck?
What cites? You said you were having difficulty distiguishing the difference between arguing on an issue level and a personal level. I offered up an example to clarify the matter.
Maybe the problem is in the wording, as you seem to think I’m attacking you. The fist lines about gun control arguments are hypothetical. The “you” in those sentences does not mean Nothing But Net. As talented as I am, I can’t link to hypothetical situations.
As for the link on the last lines about you and Esprix, check the OP for my cites.
It’s official.
fatherjohn’s SCORE is replaced with "Nothing But Net"
I was hoping that this had been resolved by now.
But it just needs to continue to be brought up.
Shit!
Sigh… It’s pretty clear you’re still clueless, NBN. As a disinterested observer, I’ll explain how things look:
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In the midst of an argument in a Pit thread, out of nowhere you basically say “Well, Esprix sucks dicks, you know.” Not only irrelevant, this is pretty rude. To me, it sounds exactly like mentioning “well, [person x] is black, after all…” in a disagreement about architecture.
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This makes you look like an asshole, as has already been pointed out. Hence, an offhand remark made “in the heat of battle” defines you as an asshole right now.
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You apologized for said remark. That’s good. That raises the possibility that you’re a perfectly nice, well-adjusted individiual who just said something rash and foolish. It doesn’t erase in our minds the possibility that you’re an asshole, though – you have to do that yourself, by consistently exhibiting non-assholish behavior for a while.
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Now, only a day or two after your apology, you’re still defending the comment that you apologized for before by referring to it as nothing but an “offhand remark”. You’re also lashing out at people (e.g. Crunchy Frog) who are simply trying to correct misunderstandings you seem to have, but who otherwise had no problem with you.
In short, you’re not exactly winning me, the disinterested observer, over to the possibility that you’re a dashing, plucky individual who I will come to admire. My current guess is that you’re going to keep baiting people until you either drop out of sight or get yourself banned. I’d love to be proved wrong, though.
I’m honestly not trying to make you feel bad or criticize you. I’m just telling you how your behavior looks from the outside. You did something wrong – just let it go, and have fun on the boards.
You know, I’m tired of being called a homophobe and a racist, when there is no evidence of either claim being true.
I think I will just run a whine to a Mod, like everyone else seems to be doing.
This is ridiculous.
If you’re referring to my post, I wasn’t calling you a racist. It was an analogy, in case you didn’t realize why someone would find your remark offensive. I wasn’t calling you a homophobe, either, despite the fact that your remark was, in fact, homophobic. In my opinion.
NBN, I am going to post an edited version of something I posted for inor a long time ago. Well, OK, so he got banned and now is over on my Board now…but he did try hard, nonetheless.
NBN - you cannot win. The sooner you come to grips with that the happier you will be. Your future has several similar, parallel Universes in it:
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In this Universe, you continue to rage against the machine, fight the power, and get banned. You then go on to either continue on with life, or come back as a troll.
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In this one, you just walk away from this, and continue to post in a reasonable manner. In time, people forget and you make lots of friends.
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Another similar one is where you see your error (yes, you do not think you have made an error, but you have), apologize, and walk away from this thread. Same results as (2), but people forgive and forget quicker, thus you have more fun.
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And there is another unhappy one, which is where, like me, you post a Board Meltdown thread somewhere, and blame your issues on booze, drugs, relationship, Bush, work, past abuse and rape, your dog telling you to “cleanse the Board”, or something. Then, 5% of the Board feels for you, 25% of the Board chalks you up as a dangerous, pathetic, pitable, possible psychopath (4 p’s, woo!), and the other 70% just don’t care. So that is not a good option either.
I guess what I’m saying is…do you have an end-game in mind? You can still belong here with us, you know. All it takes is an honest, forthright effort.
Choose options (2) or (3), and have a happy weekend, please.
Una
But this board has changed, and I’m not sure for the better.
When did everyone get so hostile, man?
As Tuba said in her e-mail to me, maybe I should get another sandbox to play in (and that’s a great analogy, considering how much shit is in here). Anthracite, where’s your board?
NBN
God rest his soul…
He would understand, I think
You’ve changed man, it used to be about the music!
This board’s changed? This board’s changed? NBN, you’ve been here for a week. Literally seven days! July 8th wasn’t the “good ol’ days” of the boards. If you were a fruit fly I might give you the benefit of the doubt here. But until such time as you show me the picture of you with wings, hovering over month old bananas dropping balls of maggots, I shall assume you have the opposable thumbs that Darwin himself granted you.
Please, for the love of Jebus, don’t come back at me saying “so you think I’m a flyaphobe now?”
Personally, I have nothing against you. I think your comment in one thread threw you way in over your head and it buried you in what should have been a legitimate thread on child abuse. And now you’ve apologized. But at the same time, you’ve managed to misconstrue pretty much everything everyone has ever said to you. No one called you a racist. No one called you a homophobe. No one accused you of telling others they like to fuck barnyard animals. No one accused you of fucking barnyard animals. And thankfully sheep don’t talk so I’m lucky there.
My point is that these were examples. If you stop cowering against the wall, swiping at anything that comes near you and just listen to what people are saying, you might actually hear them and learn.
I have been lurking around for quite some time…
When TechChick68 takes my side (who I have a great deal of respect for, BTW), that is an earth shattering event. Perhaps I’m not the troll that everyone seems to think.
All I ask is that the rules be enforced equitably and fairly. That’s all I ask. As I said, Tuba has inidicated a willingness to work with me (I am, you know, a newbie), can the rest of you do the same?
Oh, come on, you do remember fatherjohn, right? NBN may have his problems, but he’d have a loooong way to go to get to the sheer thick-skulled behavior and mind-numbing repetativeness we saw from SUV boy. Even jally couldn’t hack it.
For those who don’t remember fatherjohn, you can see his last thread here. Links to the rest of his “best” threads can be found in my post near the bottom of the first page.
Okay, just to clarify: NBN, I DID respond to you.
True, my first post told you to “Fuck Off.” I’m sorry, but I was a bit mad at the time. Then, you requested an explanation for why I was “Jumping your bones.”
The very next post, I came in and explained myself. I will quote:
In other words, you decided to make a judgement of red_dragon’s character (and a very rude one, too) without knowing the necessary facts. Hell, the age thing didn’t even matter. Even if RD and the girl were both 21, you would have no basis to assume that he was “stalking her”.
But hey, you apologized, and as long as you honor it, it’s all good. But get rid of the messiah complex. We’re not all here to persecute you, we’re here to tell you how you can fit into the boards better.
That was funny. Fruit fly jokes get me everytime.
And for NBN, go here for a summary of your existance.
It should be in the first post. Otherwise there will, likely, be misunderstandings, if not hard feelings.
If you want to bring any of my previous posts, fine.
Don’t just link to an off the wall website in reference to me, dig?
Whatever NBN. I tried working with you in an attempt to clarify some issues you yourself said you had trouble with, and the results were you claiming we were fucked up and then saying I’m flogging a dead horse. I brought up the OP since as an example to follow up the hypothetical examples in hopes of making a point, which you then promptly missed.
Since then you’ve been putting on a martyr act which gets old FAST. Especially since, for the most part, this thread isn’t even the giant pile-on it could be.
Here’s some unsolicited advice:
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Stop whining and get off the cross. Nobody likes a self-appointed martyr.
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Don’t come back to the Pit until your skin thickens a bit. You’ve taken a number of posts here as attacks when in fact they were not meant as such. Stop being so freaking defensive. Not everyone is out to get you.
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Try to make some sense and stay on topic. For example, when did TechChick take your side, since I don’t see it in this thread, and what the hell does that or Wally have to do with any of this?
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Invest in a clue by four. Learn the difference between someone trying to help you out a bit when you claim to not understand something and someone attacking you. Here’s a hint, I have yet to be on the attack in this thread, regardless of the harsh tone of this post.
For someone who claims to have lurked as long as you, you really don’t seem to understand how things work here.
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I don’t consider myself a martyr. Do you think I would exhibit myself in the SDMB Pit as such, with you guys?
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My skin IS thick. Thicker than yours apparently. You can come up with some cold shit. Have I gone away whining? No, it’s the threat of Admin banning. And I hate that idea because I would never get to interact with you again.
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She DID seem to take my side. See this thread. Wally, God bless his soul, can’t take a side. Would you prefer I invoked the name of Jesus?
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Your clue by four has met its mark. What was it supposed to do? Changed my mind to your way of thinkiig? Show me how sensitive you have been to me, maybe I was wrong.
Conclusion: ?
Gosh, this is stupid.
NBN, I can understand your frustration. Probably, you aren’t a bad guy or a troll. You acknowledge that the “cock sucking” remark was out of line even. So why won’t people stop riding you? Why hasn’t Esprix asked the mods to close the thread?
IMHO, it’s because:
A) Your initial remark was unprovoked and unusually harsh
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B) You haven’t been around long enough for people to have a sense of the kinder, gentler, smarter NBN
I’d bet that this is a very poor reflection of your true nature. Given the body of evidence against you, however, it isn’t surprising that the TM aren’t giving you the benefit of the doubt.
If I were you, I’d re-read Anthracite’s post. Re-read it 100 times if necessary. If I were acting as your counsel, I’d recommend option #3 be exercised by you post haste and in the sincerest manner. You lose nothing by re-apologizing and have much to gain. This place is fun and interesting; a worthwhile addition to IRL.