Another reason to hate the Braves

Braves announcers allowed back on team charter

(http://sports.yahoo.com/nl/news/ap/20000627/ap-braves-announcers.html)

Heaven forbod that announcers - essentially members of the media - do their fucking job. Lest the red-handed ones take away a perk, huh.

Now, I could see them doing this if they did something stupid on the plane itself, or if they started recounting embarassing tid-bits about things that went on there, but this is fucking ridiculous!


Yer putz,
Satan :wally

TIME ELAPSED SINCE I QUIT SMOKING:
Two months, two weeks, four days, 3 hours, 45 minutes and 58 seconds.
3166 cigarettes not smoked, saving $395.78.
Life saved: 1 week, 3 days, 23 hours, 50 minutes.

[Edited by TubaDiva to fix wrap]

Good call, I dislike the Braves on principle (I’m a Cubs fan) but for gods sake, I’d have showen it on TV if I was envolved in the telecast, I would have found it pretty funny. Pay these guys to do a good job sportscasting and then nail them when they catch something that is intersting. Theres motovation to do a good job, your ass gets to ride in coach…

Well I love the Braves, from GA - been a fan all my life. I agree though, it does seem silly to punish the announcers for doing their job. That, and quite frankly the whole thing is pretty weird. Why do that to the catchers box ? I mean if it is in reaction to the catcher being called for a balk, wouldn’t the natural thing to do be to make it wider ? Very strange. Love the Braves, now the Yankees on the other hand can go felch a diseased rhinoceros.

Those October losses hurt, don’t they.

Jim Leyritz says Hi! giggle

A little trivia for you: Who was the last team the Braves beat in their old stadium? Hint - It wasn’t in any of the last three World Series games the team played there. giggle

Oh, and what does a member of the Braves dress up for on Halloween?

A ghost, because they’re always invisible in October!

Anyway, see you on the Number 7 train, pal!

Now, let me count those Yankee World Championships… Three in the last four years… Twenty five in our history…

Hey, what number does that match in the Braves history? The number of different ethnic groups your reliever offended? The amount of bruises on Bobby Cox’s wife? The percent of effort your lazy center fielder gives? The amount of POW’s who died because of your owners (currently separated) wife’s actions in 'Nam?

Well, at least you treat your announcers with respect…

Now, run along, Gomer, and watch a NASCAR race or something…


Yer putz,
Satan :wally

TIME ELAPSED SINCE I QUIT SMOKING:
Two months, two weeks, four days, 6 hours, 12 minutes and 43 seconds.
3170 cigarettes not smoked, saving $396.29.
Life saved: 1 week, 4 days, 10 minutes.

I don’t think the much ballyhoo-ed pitching staff is going to feel very neighborly to these guys for a while.

Bunch of cheaters.

Go Cards! Go Expos! Go Dodgers!

::spew::

Satan, your previous posts show you to be an obviously informed and intelligent baseball fan. I also understand that this post was meant to be a sarcastic Braves flame.

That said, the above statement re Andruw Jones simply has to be challenged.

According to the Stats 2000 Major League Handbook, Andruw Jones made 492 putouts and 13 assists in 1447.1 innings. That’s a range factor of 3.15 (Range factor is putouts plus assists, times 9, divided by defensive innings played. It is one of a number of defensive statistics used to measure a player’s defensive quality)

I won’t go into the gearhead analysis mode (standard deviations, etc) but a 3.15 range factor for centerfielders is outstanding. The average for all center fielders is a 2.67. Jones was second among all CFs, and the one guy who ranked higher than him, Chris Singleton, did so in significantly less playing time (400 less innings). The ratings of the next best CFs who played at least 90 games in CF are: 3.07, 3.03, 2.99, 2.90 and 2.84.
Bernie Williams had a 2.59 range factor.

Though Jones made 10 errors last year (high for a CF), he could very well be considered the best defensive CF in the game. If he’s giving anything less than 100%, we’re talking one of the all time greats. Seriously.

Re the Braves announcers being banned, yes, I think it was a crass move.

Does anyone remember that, years ago, Don Sutton demonstrated to Ron Luciano (in conjunction with an NBC baseball telecast) how to throw an illegal pitch? (The pitcher’s identity was blacked out but it was later leaked that Sutton was the pitcher in question.)

That remark was concerning the several times that he loafed in the field so bad that he was taken out of games. I’m sure you know this to be true, and not a one-tim thing either.

If actions such as this made him realize his arrogance and occassional bouts of not caring were detrimental and he has since stopped such behavior, that’s fine, in which case the only problem with my flame is it’s a tad out of date.

Whatever… It tied the rest of the rant together nicely. And let’s not forget who started it either…


Yer putz,
Satan :wally

TIME ELAPSED SINCE I QUIT SMOKING:
Two months, two weeks, four days, 8 hours, 59 minutes and 24 seconds.
3174 cigarettes not smoked, saving $396.87.
Life saved: 1 week, 4 days, 30 minutes.

Oh, it’s absolutely true that Jones did in fact, loaf on a number of occasions. I don’t believe he’s pulled this stunt recently (at least, I don’t recall it happening to the extent that he was taken out of games this year) and the point I was trying to make was that Jones certainly doesn’t seem to make a habit of loafing, if his statistics are any indication. At 21, or however young he was then, a certain immaturity isn’t very surprising.

It’s also fair to point out that Bobby Cox probably had Andruw Jones on a bit shorter of a leash because Jones is so young and gifted and Cox doesn’t Jones to develop poor work habits. It seems to be working, as far as I know. As to the irony of Bobby (wife beating) Cox teaching anyone else lessens…well…

Oh, and for the record, I’m neither a Yankee fan nor a Brave fan. I do think that what the Braves did to their announcer was crass in the extreme.

Satan, you little devil you,

I have to admit that when first lurking on the SDMB I thought you were Steinbrenner. You know, the name and all. Now though I know that you live here in North Carolina, a place that is mostly Braves Country. I hope that breathing in the clean air will purge those battery throwing barbaric inclinations you surely must have been exposed to in the Bronx.

I want to offer my condolences on your third place Stankees. I mean, the Blue Jays ?? A bitter pill to swallow I am sure.

I regret even further the fact the “pinheads”, uh “stripes”, likely will not even make the play-offs this year. Keep the stiff upper lip though, maybe they will perservere and get the wild card. That would make a divisional match-up against . . . likely the WhiteSox.

Satin ?

Where did you go ?

Oops, I said “WhiteSox” - makes Stanks quiver in their livers everytime. Sorry about that.

I’ll make it up to you. Really. Listen, we southerners have this underground information network. We meet at NASCAR races and fishing holes and exchange secrets. I shouldn’t be telling you this, but I know how the Braves are going to trash the Stinkies this year. Ah, but you won’t tell will you ? Nah - you’re a stand-up demon. OK . . . (whispering) Atlanta is just gonna hit the ball to Knoblauch.

**E4 !!!

E4 !!!

E4 !!!**
Santana ?

Where did you go ???

Bravos baby.

  • NM

Satan,

If you’re in New York, tell Clemens that David Wells says hello. He doesn’t get a chance to talk to him much anymore because he’s too busy winning games.

If the Braves’ broadcast setup is anything like that of most other major league teams, the announcers for the home team TV station are employees of the ball club, not the station. I know it definitely worked that way when I was working with the Indians organization at their former AM flagship; all air talent were employees of the Cleveland Indians, not of WKNR or WUAB, their resepctive radio and TV broadcast outlets. Ergo, the club has the right to expect certain things of their employees, and to punish them when those expectations are not met.

Satan,

Are you sure this isn’t jsut repressed anger over the fact that the Yankees are ::snort:: only 4 games above .500 and in second place?

Or was that you in the stands when 'ol Knobber beaned a fan in the head? I thought I remember reading that it was an old lady–But it might have been you, that would explain your delusional rant.

But hey, I can play along.

So Steinbrenner gets mentioned? Now, do you REALLY want to get into the owners of my team when yours is Mr. Hanoi Jane?

As big a dick Steinbrenner is, at least he ain’t married to a traitor whose actions led to our troops being killed.

Now, we are not doing so hot, yes. As much as I would like to make a glib comment about how we are simply giving everyone the chance theyt didn’t have when we were going 125-50 with the best team in baseball and possible all professional sporting history, fact is:

We are dealing with major injuries here. The only starter who has been healthy this year is Pettite. Roger is on the DL now. Cone had problems earlier in the year. Our long-relief specialist has had to start a ton of games and we have had peopel I don’t even know starting as well.

In spite of this, we are contending for the division, and common sense says we will prevail here, at least in the AL East. Boston is Pedro and pray (and we beat the Sox the last two times we faced him), the Jays are exciting, but a year away. Watch them wilt in the heat of a long summer - mark my words.

And you know that none of you would want to see us in your path when the playoffs begin. We seem to be able to rise to that challenge - need I go into our recent post-seasons? No, I think you are all too aware of them.

It’s a long season, and typical of perrenial also-rans, you are cheering about things before the all star break even.

And the neat thing is that even if the Yankees never won a World Series, all of your teams would have to win every WS from now until in the middle of the 2020’s to catch us, and we would have to go 0-162 for like ten years straight to get our record at .500 for all-time.

When we win the East again, I will revive this thread. Mark my words…

And I see everyone is quick to tear the Yanks down (being perenial leaders will attract you people), but nobody DARE try and lift their teams up to our level.

Only because it can’t be done, schmucks.

Have a nice rest of season, kiddies…


Yer putz,
Satan :wally

I HAVE BEEN SMOKE-FREE FOR:
Two months, two weeks, four days, 13 hours, 13 minutes and 14 seconds.
3182 cigarettes not smoked, saving $397.75.
Life saved: 1 week, 4 days, 1 hour, 10 minutes.

Satan, boooooo whoooooo. Whah. Whah

As of today, June 26th :

Atlanta Braves 46-29

New York Yankees 37-33

Seem like you have a bigger problem with .500 buddy.

  • NM

Whoa whoa WHOA- don’t confuse me with a Braves fan. I hate most everything about them; The tomahawk chop, Hanoi Jane, John Rocker’s bizarre antics (and I’m not even referring to his comments in SI- I thought he was an idjit long before that whole “controversy”), their fair-weather fans can’t even sell out a playoff game, and that they’re constantly on one of Turner’s superstations winning some complete yawner of a game.

And I’m not bashing Steinbrenner either- as an O’s fan, I’ll trade you Angelos for him any day and throw in Albert Belle and the entire bullpen to boot. But trading Wells for the Rocket was a stupid decision IMO. When I heard about that trade, all I could think of is Mr. Costanza yelling “Why’d you trade Jay Buhner!?!”.

Considering that the 1995-99 AL Central Division Champion Cleveland Indians are 13-17 in the division this year and 8-1/2 games behind the (gag) Sox, I am not going to respond any further to this thread, except to say that the Yankees suck. Also, I received this in e-mail this morning:

A first grade teacher explains to her class that she is a Yankees’ fan. She asks her students to raise their hands if they are Yankees’ fans too. Not really knowing what a Yankees’ fan is, but wanting to be just like their
teacher, their hands explode in the air like fleshy fireworks.

There was, however, one exception. A girl named Lucy did not go along with the crowd. The teacher asks her why she decided to be different. “Because I’m not a Yankees’ fan.” “Then,” asks the teacher, “What are you?” “Why I’m proud to be an Indians’ fan!” boasts the little girl.

The teacher is a little perturbed now, her face slightly red. She asks Lucy why she is an Indians’ fan. “Well, my mom and dad are Indians’ fans, and I’m an Indians’ fan, too.” The teacher is now angry. “That’s no reason,” she says loudly. “What if your mom was a moron and your dad was a moron – what would you be then?” A pause, and a smile. “Then,” says Lucy, “I’d be a Yankees’ fan.”

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Gee, that was inspired. You know, while in some circles, the lack of a witty retort can be made up for by an egregious use of vowels, I don’t think I’ve ran in those circles since I was in the 7th grade.

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That’s right, numb-nuts. As of fucking June. And you are absolutely right - if championships were handed out in June, the Braves might have more than one, you think?

Not too surprising that the Braves are kicking ass. The months aren’t ending with “R” yet.

As I said in my post, king of reading comprehension, wait until things start to matter, and the rightful order of the universe will once again be returned.


Yer putz,
Satan :wally

I HAVE BEEN SMOKE-FREE FOR:
Two months, two weeks, four days, 14 hours, 26 minutes and 33 seconds.
3184 cigarettes not smoked, saving $398.01.
Life saved: 1 week, 4 days, 1 hour, 20 minutes.

Right… Look, just be glad there’s a Wild Card.

Maybe your team will put up a “2000 Wild Card” banner up to go with the “Central Division Champs” one you have now, right?

Banners just for being the “Central Division Champs.” giggle Glad my team has real accomplishments. 25 (and counting) of them.

Two words, Phil: Florida Marlins.

Oh, and lest I forget: Dewey lost to Truman when the Indians won their last crown.

Think it’s tarnished and rusty by now, Phil?


Yer putz,
Satan :wally

I HAVE BEEN SMOKE-FREE FOR:
Two months, two weeks, four days, 14 hours, 41 minutes and 10 seconds.
3184 cigarettes not smoked, saving $398.06.
Life saved: 1 week, 4 days, 1 hour, 20 minutes.

Brian, as a great admirer of yours, but more especially a fellow Yankee fan I must ask, “Will you please dump Drain and marry me?”

No?

OK.

I didn’t think it’d hurt to ask.

I hope you don’t mind, but I think I might steal some of your arguments to use against my SO (who is a stupid Mets fan). I can’t come up good stuff like that when he puts me on the spot. How you guys remember all that junk is beyond me - I’m lucky if I remember the score of last night’s game. He throws all those stats and facts and names at me and my big argument ends up being “Yankees do not suck. The Mets do, and they all look like they have big butts in those black jerseys.”

To pldennison:

Phil, please note that I do not gloat. It has been 40 years since the White Sox have been to the World Series, and the Sox have failed in every post-season series since that fabled year of 1959, so I can’t be beating my chest. The Indians have a first class organization, and a great team. I just hope that finally, the working class kids from the south side of Chicago have finally caught up and surpassed them, at least for one year.

By the way, hope all is otherwise well with you and yours.

To Satan:

One of my favorite all time baseball books is “Dynasty,” the history of the Yankees year by year from 1949-1964, when they won 13 pennants in 15 years, and the World Series 9 times. The subtitle to that book was "When pulling for the Yankees was like pulling for U.S. Steel . . "

It must feel nice to be part of the evil empire, eh?

Now since 1964, the Yankees have won the series 4 times. In today’s baseball terms, that’s pretty damn good. And the Yankee teams that won those titles (Reggie and Catfish’s teams of the late 70s and todays team) were great teams. But otherwise the Yankees have been quite mediocre. Yes, you’re the defending champs, and you won 125 games last year, yes, yes. But the same Yankee history that boasts Babe Ruth and Mickey Mantle also had as its foundation for many years the likes of Horace Clarke, Gene Michael, and Ron Blomberg. Constantly invoking those 25 titles (21 which were won probably before you were born) is like invoking the glory of ancient Rome. Its nice, but not very relevant to today.

No, you ARE the defending champs, so its not hard to gloat too much. But Al Lopez, manager of the White Sox back in 1964, was being interviewed after the Sox had been swept by the Yankees in an early season series. “Its early, isn’t it skip?” one writer offered the excuse. “Yes,” replied the Senor, “but I wish we’d won at least one of those games with the Yankees.” He turned out to be a prophet. The Sox finished second, 1 game behind the Yankees. So these early series can make a big difference.

To everyone else:

My stars! My stars! The White Sox are 8.5 games in first on June 27! I can’t believe it! I know its early, but I can’t ever recall the Sox doing this well at this time in the season (stats bear this out. The last time the Sox had this good a start this late in the season was 1919).

My apologies for the thread hijack, but these are heady times. I’m breathing rarified air. I just hope it lasts.


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