Answering a different question than the one asked

So, there’s this girl. Shes great in every way but she does this thing. On many occasions I’ve asked her a question and the answer I recieved was an answer - to a different question. There is some correlation but not really enough for me to understand what I’m suppose to get from it. Its almost pathological and is frustrating to no end.

I say Im going to get something to eat and asked if she was hungry(around dinner time), she might respond with “I had a PBJ sandwich for lunch”. Upon further investigation I discover this means yes, she is hungry. We then work out where to eat, which was the classic trope played out in real life.

If I were to invite her somewhere Saturday she might tell me about plans she has on Friday.

There are many more mundane and not so mundane examples but thats the gist. Shes smart, educated, thoughtful, kind, considerate and articulate. I’ve asked her to be try and be more direct but she has trouble seeing where I’m coming from.

I’m not sure what to do with it but its frustrating. Any advise?

The capital of Iceland is Reykjavík.

Nuke her from orbit.

Bear with me. It is definitely frustrating, it would be for me, but I think it is a far stretch to diagnose her as pathological. Pathological would imply she gets something out of frustratingly not answering your questions. All she could get is left hungry or alone on Saturday night. Probably not her goal. If she managed to successfully use language to become educated she is most likely not pathological (about that).

Sounds like you have a serious mismatch in communication styles. May be cultural, linguistic, social, gender, age. Hard to guess. Try being even more direct-“would you like to have dinner, yes or no?”. Repeat the “yes or no” query if needed.

It isn’t that one of you is broken or wrong, you will just have to put in the effort to speak and listen in each other’s style.

I don’t know about your relationship, but she has a great future in politics.

It’s sounds a little like the kind of drama-queen / attention-getting vagueness that I’d associate with a certain type of teenage girl. A straightforward answer doesn’t tie in with the narrative that their life is complex and mysterious.

Or there’s Family Guy’s take, a slightly different phenomenon of ditziness, I think:

She’s dishonest. If you press her for an answer one of two things will happen:

A. She’ll lie to you.
B. She’ll be angry that you made her answer.

Multipost replies were so easy before. Dammit.

Tri, nice but to far off the mark… Iceland…

Reimann, not that kind of intential vaugeness

Bip, not so much a diagnosis, its just very persistent. Professionally directness isn’t a problem for her. Personally I can follow up and get the direct response but I’m ussually looking at two or three passes to get it done. We’re near two years in if it matters

Tripolar again, A and B sometimes happen. Just as often its benign.

I am amazed that this thread has not already been totally trashed with smart aleck answers like this. Good job TriPolar for reacting so quickly.

Kudos for hanging in there for two years. Sincerely. Can certainly see how not only frustrating but exhausting that would be.

Here’s a smart aleck suggestion: what would she say about your personal style of asking and answering questions? Consider friend/couple therapy for a few sessions to tweak the relationship communication contract? “I’ll try to do X differently if you’ll try to do Z differently. Would you work with me at Dr. Y’s office on it?”

Hang in there. Sounds like both of you are worth it.:vulcan_salute:t3:

I was impressed also.

Yeah, thats the coming pitch. Slow pitches though with her anxiety and ptsd and shit.

Odd ball non sequitur comments don’t make the cut. They gotta be aaaaaaalmost related enough to make a definitve answer, but not quite.

Does she come from some background where it’s not considered polite to answer something bluntly and directly?

What are her family, friends, like?

Their are no cultural inhibitions. We’re from similar socioeconomic backgrounds. Family is similar but generally direct(ish). Friends are direct. All within polite south-western boundaries.

Gotcha.

I’m sure her family knows this foible all the more, having dealt with her her whole life. What do they think of it and how do they deal with it?

I do have advice (to answer your question directly). It may or may not apply, but I’ll give it below, then follow up with my “answer-adjacent” observations that inform my suggestions.

My option 1 advice: don’t leave her wiggle room. Ask questions with a direct yes/no answer. Like, don’t ask her if she is hungry. Say, “Do you want to come with me to dinner right now?”

If she responds “I’m not sure I’m hungry,” keep on with the direct approach, “okay, I was wondering if you wanted to join me. I’ll take that as a no. Bye!”

Option 2 is: try to pinpoint where your cultural differences lie, adapt to the extent you want to, and possibly ask her to adapt as well. My comments below will make clearer what I mean.

My observations fall into two categories, cultural and individual. Read them or not, as you like, and derive what you like from them, or not.

CULTURAL: there are definitely cultures that feel that directness is rude, and/or that displeasing people with an answer they don’t want to hear is rude. Here’s a specific example: in a lot of Micronesian cultures, answering any question with “no” is rude. Even if “no” is the answer. So people will give answers that are far less blunt. As long as everyone is on the same page culturally, it works.

But you have to be in tune with the way things work. A non-Micronesian friend of mine, helping me adjust to life in Micronesia, gave me this advice: "don’t walk into a store and ask,“do you have eggs?” Because the answer will always be “yes,” even if they don’t have eggs, since “no” would be rude. Instead, ask, “where are your eggs?” Then they must either lead you to the eggs, or their giggle/vagueness will clue you in to what you needed to know which is: no, there are no eggs in this store today.

I liken it to local cultural rules regarding driving. In Boston drivers are (or were - I haven’t lived there in decades so maybe it is different now) quite aggressive. But as long as EVERYONE understands that, it’s fine. Trouble only arises if a driver from somewhere else cowers, thus confusing what is otherwise a well understood conversation among drivers,

On the other hand, most drivers where I live now (Hawai’i) are pretty polite. If I were to engage in Boston-driving, aggressive behavior, I’d likely cause accidents because there are unwritten, shared rules, about how people behave.

For me, anything works: Boston aggressiveness, Hawai’i mellowness, or anything else: as long as you all agree.

Seems like you and this person don’t share values regarding interactions. If you want, you can explore that, try to figure out what’s going on, and take it from there.

INDIVIDUAL: I am in no way qualified to comment, so ignore this if you like. But it sounds like she may be “overconnecting” thoughts and ideas. It’s something schizophrenics do all the time, and as a non-schizophrenic who shares that trait along with others who are also sane enough to function, I think certain personality types are prone to it.

For example: if you were to ask me if I wanted to go to dinner tomorrow, I might think, “tomorrow is my friend’s birthday! I was hoping to bake her a cake, but dammit, I haven’t left enough time in my schedule. Well, maybe if I keep my schedule to a minimum tomorrow, I’ll find time. But I do really need to meet with that group that plans to protest our plans to build a parking lot next to our office.”

You can just imagine the seemingly unrelated response that someone might give after that thought process. They might say, “I have a meeting with someone to discuss blah-blah-blah” which is not an answer but which makes sense to the person who internally connected all the dots.

Since I’m keenly aware that this is my tendency, I do my best to control it - but I’m almost 62 and have been working on insight and behavior modification for decades. At 20 or 30, with less insight than I have now, yet more intellectual energy, I’m sure many answers I gave to seemingly simple questions were…exhausting.

Her sister shares this quirk in some instances but not near this. Her brother is as overt and as direct as I am in very similar ways. Siblings all seem to communicate as well as i might otherwise expect.

I suspect a similar process to be at work here.

My brother does this! And it’s like @CairoCarol says:

Me: “Do you want to go on a hike Saturday morning?”
His mind: I work Friday, so the only time I’ll have to bake the cake for Bob’s party is Saturday morning.
Him: “Bob’s party is Saturday night”

The word of the day a while back was amphibolous, which isn’t perfect in this instance, but is the best word I know of to capture “I understand the individual words, but not the information you were trying to convey.” We use it to describe these interactions. He once provided a much longer answer than this example, and I just responded “Ok, that’s nice, but none of that answered my question”

As siblings, I potentially have a greater ability to just call him out on it than you would want to do with someone else, but that’s how I deal.

Your g/f thinks faster than you so her answer is assessed, analysed, decided and commented on while other people are still back at move #1
Now, who has the problem? Does it bother her that she has arrived at an answer which includes other information as well.
What is it that annoys you most? Having to ask 2-3 times for an answer? You could try this…
Tell her that you want to work on a decision-making practice. It is like a game and it is for improving the way decisions like recent current affairs are made.
Neither of you are to answer with anything other than YES or NO to a question and those answers are given non verbally. A nod, flick of the eyebrows, smile,thumbs up etc Then when she is working on her “problem” you can work on “How controlling can a man be in 2020”