Anyone watching Severance (new show on Apple TV)?

Yes. You’re correct.

Re: Milchick (from post above). Didn’t occur to me he might be above Harmony. Assumed he was a subordinate. It’s possible she just accepted her firing and Milchick just escorted her out. I do think Milchick (actor) acted his way into a more prominent role for next season. So great to watch. Defiant Jazz scene was wonderful TV.

Interesting that Harmony/Cobell seemed genuinely pleased when Mark announced he might give up working for Lumen. Also interesting that it seems apparent that she’s lost someone important to her in the past (from the way she also hugged the respirator tube/hospital wristband combo after she tore up her Kier shrine), maybe even her child (?).

If the reincarnation angle plays out, it makes you think who Mark is actually sharing headspace with…

OB

Yeah. He plays friendly/ creepy (or is it creepy/ friendly?) very well.

But not pleased FOR Mark. She’s going to use him to get back at the board.

Milchick reminds me of a middle school teacher that all the kids just love until he is dragged out of class in handcuffs.

I assume he ultimately reports up to the board, but Harmony manages him day-to-day. Once Harmony was fired he no longer answers to her.

I’m sure that is part of her plan, but not sure how it might work out considering what is just about to happen… Also, I think she has a genuine soft spot for Outie Mark, that isn’t just part of the neighbourly character she’s portraying outside. All her more ‘positive’ interactions with Innie Mark seem false/forced (such as the insincere giggling at MDR hitting quota this episode).

OB

What is Harmonys’ interest in Mark’s sister, BiL and their son?
Given the way the BiL’s book is used and the way it is written, he is clearly important to the overall plot, but is he for or against Lumon?

Also, does anyone else think it strange that no one has ever been to her store and caught out that fabrication? Seems like they live in a semi-rural, at most light urban, small town where, in the real world, everyone should be into everyone else’s business.

OB

I think the interest is just another way for her to keep tabs on Outie Mark (such as trying to wheedle whether he ever ‘saw’ his dead wife).

The book is obviously nonsense, and used for comic effect. The fact the Innies are now using it as a inspiration for their insurrection just heightens that (and contrasts with the Compliance tomes that are meant to be the Innies’ bible). However, from the excerpts we’ve been given I’d say it falls on the anti-Lumon side, as it’s clearly a parody of self-help books with an emphasis on individual freedom.

OB

I think it’s a parody from our perspective, but I think BiL wrote it very seriously.

Well, by extension, BiL is a parody of self-help gurus many of whom are really bad (yet successful) writers.

Thinking about Rickon a bit more… sorry about the waffle :grin:.

Faith and religion are obvious themes in the show and there are parallels to be drawn with the Christian story. Kier is very much an Old Testament God - authoritarian, patriarchal, vengeful etc. Rickon, although drawn as a parody and meant to be seen as a comic figure - that parody is in no way a malicious one. Rickon seems almost infantile (maybe not dissimilar to the infantilism of the Innies?), an innocent, a lamb. Should he be seen as the bearer of the good news? A messianic figure for the Innies? If so, I don’t hold out much hope for him surviving this season - or even the next episode (with him, Mark S (or, for the purposes of this theory, St Mark :relaxed:) and a slightly unhinged Harmony all in the same place for what might be a ‘last supper’, for someone).

OB

Has anyone read The Lexington Letter (PDF)? It offers lots of interesting information.

Did any other Seinfeld fans recognize that Petey is played by the actor who portrayed the tough gay man that stole Elaine’s armoire in the soup nazi episode? He also menaced Kramer when he refused to wear a ribbon for the AIDS walk. The actor’s name is Yul Vasquez (and he is muy guapo :heart_eyes:).

That was a fun read. Nothing much to sink your teeth into except the editor’s last name. But it does validate my suspicion that the elevator’s character recognition abilities are either just a made up deterrent or, at the very least, just really badly designed.

Not necessarily. If you take Peggy’s letter at face value, the original code detectors could recognize letters, but not the symbols and pictures she used in her made-up code. Once security realized what was happening, they swapped out the old detectors for ones that blocked both words and symbol-based code. Assuming the letter is from before the show timeline, the current detectors truly do block anything, as Mark said.

I hope I’m wrong, but I think Harmony is going to somehow convince Mark he’s in danger and get him out of the party before his innie can talk to anyone else.

Then the question is, why did Milchick think Dylan could have snuck out that info card?

Woohoo! Season 2 confirmed.