Again, Arafat is a notorious murderer of Jews. His picture on a bag of chips is an endorsement of the murders of Jews.
How would you feel if somebody sold “Mengistu Chips”?
Hmmm . . . Does this mean that Palestinians do indeed think that Arafat is all that and a bag of chips?
I have some Gorbachov vodka that my sister brought back from Georgia (fka part of the USSR). It’s a commemorative bottle.
They also do have Stalin vodka, but she couldn’t find any for sale. Stalin was also from Georgia.
For efrem, would you feel any different about the chips if they were Hamas chips, or PFLP (sp?) chips? I understand that both of those groups are known for building schools and hospitals for Arabs, as well as murdering innocent people.
The point is not where the money is going, the point is that the person portrayed on the cover of the chips, and the theme of the cover are to support and honor a man widely perceived in the West as a terrorist.
Now if you will excuse me, I am off to have some of my Osama bin Laden with Cheese Flavoring chips.
Others see controversy; I see a marketing opportunity:
“Abu Ammar Chips; Now in two flavors!”
“Traditional militant style and new cheezy humanitarian style!”
From Yahoo! News:
A cartoon of the Palestinian leader salutes consumers from each bag of Abu Ammar chips, beckoning them to buy the snack and support the Palestinian fight against Israel.
Are you trying to delude us or just yourself? Take a look at the bag in the link above- By far the most prominent thing is Arafat. THE SNACK IS NAMED AFTER HIM, SPECIFICALLY HIS “NOM DU GUERRE” (war name). The company will not say specifically what organizations the profits will be donated to.
Well, Mojo, the way the US has been treating representatives of Muslim charities over here, do you think the company would want to be completely open as to where that money went? Ashcroft and Rumsfeld would be all over the US branches in a New York minute.
gobear - Sharon is a notorious murderer of Palestinians - I’ve posted more than enough damning evidence around the massacre at Sabra and Shatila alone to back that up. US aid to Israel is therefore an endorsement of the murder of Palestinians. I wonder who gets more money, Arafat from the sale of a snack item, or Sharon from the US’ foreign budget?
Eve, you’re a wonderful, classy, highly cultured woman, but I can’t help wondering if you think everyone who supports the Palestinian struggle is a Jew-hater. The thought troubles me.
Israel is not all of Jewry. Opposition to the existence of Israel is not anti-Semitism, and the tactic of suicide bombings is directed towards Israeli citizens not because they are Jewish, but because they are seen as active supporters of a government whose policy for 50+ years has demonstrably been one of oppression and exclusion.
Yes, Jews die in suicide bombings, but their religion has f*ckall to do with it.
Olentzero–Sharon is not Israel, and Arafat is not Palestine. It is possible to support Palestinians and despise Arafat. US aid to Israel is not endorsing the murder of Palestinians. Israel has never killed Palestinian athletes at the Olympics, Israel has not hijacked airplanes and killed US servicemen, dumping their bodies on the tarmac. Israel doesn’t target buses, nightclubs, and daycare centers. In addition, Israelis didn’t dance and sing in celebration of 9/11–guess who did?
Every peace initiative, every attempt to trade alnd for peace, every negotiation, has come from the Israeli side. The Palestinians have one goal–the destruction of Israel and the deaths of every Jew in Israel. Palestinians don’t want peace if it means coexistence with Israel. Israel, until recently, was willing to live with an independent Palestine.
Does Sharon have bloody hands? Yes, I remember Sabra and Shatila–I was in college at the time. But Sharon only enabled the slaughter–it was the Lebanese Phalangists who actually did the killing.
C’mon, don’t be naive. Down in DC, tyhe anti-Jewsish rhetoric has been thick on the pro-Palestine demonstrors’ sides. Don’t for a minute pretend that the Palestine cause has not attracted a great many Jew-haters.
I apologize if my comments were misunderstood. I was basically making a tongue-in-cheek comment about what an ad campaign for this chips could be (hence the ™ after the name).
From the BBC:
This must mean either one of two things. Either Arafat hates the chips, or he conquered him themself.
I find this interesting, as it is a vague statement. What are they building? They could be building hospitals, but they could also be building tanks, bombs, or what have you. (I’m not saying they are-just that they could be.)
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[quote[Well, Mojo, the way the US has been treating representatives of Muslim charities over here, do you think the company would want to be completely open as to where that money went? [/quote]
What part of the story has anything to do with the US government? None. This is a product made in the Middle East, sold exclusively in the Middle East, and I’m assuming that the charities that they’re donating to don’t have branches in the US, but we’ll never know because they’re not providing that info. There are plenty of Muslim charities that have not had recent legal problems. Why? Because they’re not funneling money to terorists in the guise of humanitarian aid.
Explain that to the family of Leon Klinghoffer.
Even though we disagree on the “Palestinian struggle,” Olentzero, thank you for the “wonderful, classy, highly cultured woman” remark! You can come over to my place and we’ll share a bag of Arafat chips and Pope-si Cola.
But it is impossible to support Arafat and not be a Jew-hater? (NB, this is not to say that I support Arafat. I have criticisms of him as well.)
What, then, does the US sell Israel military armaments for?
So therefore we should condemn all the Palestinians in one lump? Do you believe all Roman Catholics are pedophiles?
Are you basing this statement on actual intimate knowledge of the entire Palestinian population, or only on the statements you hear from some of the more extreme leaders of militant Palestinian groups? Is it entirely possible that there are Palestinians on the West Bank who support peaceful coexistence with Jews in the Middle East, or is real difference of opinion only attainable here in the United States?
Yes, but where did the Phalangists get the guns from? The IDF. Sharon bought the bullets.
Well, seeing as I was right in the thick of the huge demonstration last April, I’m pretty sure I can state that there was very little anti-Jewish sentiment. Anti-Israeli sentiment, yes. In that vein, I didn’t see a placard with a “Star of David = swastika” that didn’t get challenged on that march, by Jews and Palestinians alike.
And I certainly don’t pretend that the Palestinian cause didn’t attract Jew-haters. But when they did come to town, I was there on the other side of the street doing my damnedest to make sure their message got shouted down and drowned out.
Then I guess that’s not a safe assumption to make, is it? It’s not like that company has absolutely no idea what’s going on over here. They go public with the names of the charities being supported by the sales of these chips, Ashcroft and Rumsfeld start checking to see if they have branches over here and work overtime to dig up any evidence they can to seize assets and harass local representatives. Though the money that comes from the US doesn’t come from the sales of these chips, shutting down the US branches means the beneficiaries of those charities in the Middle East lose a serious chunk of funding.
Right, could you brief me on what definitive proof has been produced aside from a couple of old Polaroids from the 80s?
Explain how Leon Klinghoffer’s death proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that anti-Semitism forms the entire foundation of the Palestinian struggle.
Well, like I said, I have a great amount of respect for you… but I’d hate to have it tempered by the fact that you might consider me a Jew-hater for supporting the Palestinian cause. I hate to be so brusque, but I would like to know… do you or don’t you?
" . . . do you or don’t you?"
—Only my hairdresser knows for sure . . .
Olentzero, we all know you’re not a Jew-hater. You’re a good Marxist who is supporting the international struggle for the liberation of oppressed proletariat masses from the imperialist bootheel of the running dog lackeys of the capitalists. (I hope I got that right.) 
) You’re a good man.
Umm, “Star of David=swastika” IS anti-Jewish, not just anti-Israeli, but I’m glad you excluded those jerks from your ranks.
I can’t say that I don’t sympathize with the people stuck in the middle–Palestinian and Israeli alike–but IMO, of the two sides, the Palestinians, hands-down, have the more reprehensible leadership. Arafat is an evil, evil man, unfit for government of any kind.
And yes, I do condemn the Palestinians as one lump when it comes to the 9/11 celebrations. There was no indication that this was expressed by one tiny segment of the population; the news reports showed that the jubilation over the deaths of 3,000 Americans was universal among the Palestinian people. Arafat himself had to tell them to knock it off for fear of the effect of the publicity.
Just because people are oppressed doesn’t make them virtuous.
Not gonna, because that statement was specifically in response to your “Yes, Jews die in suicide bombings, but their religion has f*ckall to do with it.” I give you an example where an American Jew was singled out and killed by “Palestinian Freedom Fighters” because of his religion and now you want me to expand that into some bizarre claim that no one on this thread (and possibly also the entire board) has made?
As to your request for evidence, from Capitalresearch.org:
My point being that that kind of sentiment was challenged by both Jews and Palestinians. More often than not, the point those people were trying to make was a connection between Israel and oppression rather than Judaism and oppression. Once argued with, however, people generally dropped those signs (which were without exception hand made by the individual carryiing it) or covered it with a different one.
We didn’t exclude them, but we did vigorously oppose the National Alliance when they chose to demonstrate “in support of Palestine” outside the Israeli embassy three weeks later. Much different crowd of people.
Does that therefore render any and all Palestinian grievances illegitimate? Does it render their cause completely unjust?
Re: the 9/11 “celebrations”… let’s suppose, for a moment, that there is a person in your life who has done nothing but make you absolutely miserable because s/he doesn’t like you or something about you. One day, as you see this person approaching, they are struck on the head by an errant football, knocking them down to the ground and ultimately sending them to the hospital with a nasty concussion. Would you not feel some small twinge of satisfaction at seeing this bully suffer like they’ve made you suffer? Have you never, in your life, wished something painful or nasty would happen to someone you know to whom you’ve given the title Asshole of the Moment? Does doing so make you a bad person, and does it make the causes you support and the beliefs you hold automatically bad?
It’s the same with the Palestinians. Israel is the local bully, but they’re well aware of where Israel gets its financial and military support from. They see that bigger bully get a huge black eye - or rather they see the US suddenly, for one single horrible moment, understand what their lives have been like for decades, it is hardly surprising that there would be some sort of outpouring of satisfaction fueled by that slow-burning anger. This doesn’t mean it wasn’t a mistake, but it doesn’t make the Palestinians evil or their cause an unjust one.
It appears we have two simultaneous threads occurring here. One started with the OP and those of us in that thread are making fun of potato chips. But another thread arguing about the justice of the Palestinian cause has spontaneously arisen in our midst and to those of you in that thread I say “lighten up”.
But do the chips have Olestra?
Olestra?
Such a fate even Arafat does not deserve!
I had to check the forum twice to make sure we were still in MPSIMS. Off to Great Debates with you.