My what a missguided pack of insecure persopnalities we have dredged up with this post. The simple message was that men do pay attention to woem they are intimate with beyond the sensations of their penis. The hostility here is absolutely out of context with the message.
OPALCAT:
I know plenty of women who still have ‘big’ hair. My last girlfriend had moderately long hair but she liked to ‘puff’ it up often prior to sex without my prompting. On the information of an e-friend of mine, I dropped into a post concerning makeup and, with some astonishment, read how you and several others who have slammed me over makeup like wearing it. You, especially, seem to have a remarkable skill. (Thanks Anita.) By the way, OPALCAT, I used to hang around strip clubs a lot, especially one, where I used to help them close up and found it necessary to fish some dancers out of customers cars between sets and now and then sober them up or drive them home. They often had magnificent and titillating opinions on sexual stimulation, including dancing for their men. excluding the obvious nuts, psychopaths, druggies, prostitutes and such, I learned some fascinating opinions and techniques – some far to wild for me. With you having been in the field, I would suspect that you are aware of all of them – at least from listening to the others. I suspect your main hostility towards my post is due to my fat comments. Tisk Tisk. Not objective at all are we?
Could it be that many of you are reacting poorly because you are not getting in your own lives what I posted? Do your men hop on, grind away, kiss your nose and dismount, only to roll over and snooze? I know some of you react to my fat post and carry it over here. Cool. I still am not attracted to fat women. Big fucking deal.
ANDROS:
Ah, the old projection ploy. Try to stab me where I should be most vulnerable, which is exactly where you are. Sorry. I cherish the women I encounter, which, since I pointed out all that I can easily see about them, should be obvious. No, sorry, no repressed homosexuality here nor homophobia. Good try though, even if that is a typical ‘macho’ ploy to try to insult another guy through his sexuality. (Usually that indicates a deep rooted fear of the same stuff within the insulter.)
MANDA JO:
A new voice here. I am Male. I am sexually active. Now, tell me, do you have a man who does NONE of what I mentioned? Would you like one? If not, then what is the beef. In many, many a discussion with both men and women, what I have mentioned is what I disclosed and not just through my own experiences. I was quite pleased to discover in discourse that even some MANLY MEN actually were very perceptive during coupling with their partners, though it did diminish considerably depending on if they were with a lover or a one night stand. I avoid Cosmo and Penthouse for articles. Having been in the field of psychiatrics for a time, I was able to have access to a sex therapist, who, in discussions concerning some of his patients, brought some of this out to me. He also was aware that a large amount of women felt that their partners did not actually ‘see’ them during sex and that many men would not admit to what they experienced, feeling that it was unmanly. Are you one of these women? A test then. Hopefully you have not shared my post with your significant other, which would prompt him. Play 20 questions. As him what he sees and feels during sex with you. As him to go into detail. See how many he can get. (It can be just 10 questions, because I’ve observed that many guys get uncomfortable when having to do this.) E-mail me and I’ll send you the questions.
WallyM7:
Stunning riposte! Bet you had to think all night to get that one up. Son, I was fooling around with the ladies before you were born. I even know a couple of ‘Working’ girls and they have some cool secrets of technique.
Sanibelman:
Good intuition and excellent observation, though you neglected to read where I stated that my post concerned only one part of the aspects of intercourse with a loved one. I had assumed (never - never -ass - ume) that the mentally intimate part would be taken for granted. Hopefully, as you age, you will retain your sensitivity, but BEWARE, my friend, THAT can be a curse most exquisite.
Naturally, the SDMBers have their compliment of assholes and those who never agree with anyone on anything. I think some need to be on Prosaic or Paxil and a few could use a dose of Thorazine.
To those of you who have been sending in the supporting e-mail, many thanks and I consider you to be the most open minded of the lot.
To you ladies, if you guy is not doing all that I explained and you LIKE it, then there is no further discussion to be had with you because you are lost. My sympathies.
Mark
“Think of it as Evolution in action.”