ARE ALL GUYS SELFISH BUGGERS DURING SEX?

(shudder) Mark Serlin is soooo creepy.

Well Girl, just look at Mark’s bio:
"jack of all trades, master of none. Worked in medical and
psychiatric fields. "

nuff said :slight_smile:

Oh, and Mark? If you’re gonna use a fake username, at least disguise your writing style a little. It’s very obvious who NITWATCH2 is.

I swear to God I need a shower after reading that OP…
::::shudder::::

I shall pray, today and everyday to never, EVER run into this creep in a dark alley…or a bright one.
Zette

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Mark Serlin, a real 90s guy.

Thank God 2000 is just around the corner.


Some drink at the fountain of knowledge…others just gargle.

Yeah, but Mark won’t drink at it unless someone puts Kool-Aid in it.

Am I the only one that thinks that Mark Serlin has some serious control issues? Jesus. Between his rules for appearance and rules for sex, I don’t understand why he doesn’t just invest in one of those “Real Dolls.” It’s a life-sized sex toy shaped like a woman, but he’d get to dictate her appearance and OF COURSE he wouldn’t have to deal with the oh-so-offensive smell of an ACTUAL woman.

oh, and “Nitwatch” or whatever said

Actually, Sparky,I DO have a problem with that. Before you break your arm patting yourself on the back because of how ‘considerate’ you are, think about this: If a woman is performing oral sex on you, my bet is she doesn’t want a mouthful of Old Spice or whatever crap you wear. If that is all she can smell, she’s going to taste it. While I’m sure you’re used to women gagging at the idea of going down on you, it’s NOT the normal reaction.

And what is WITH you ‘two’ and your fear of the way the human body smells? Obviously it’s nice to be clean, but I also agree with Satan that spontaneity can certainly be good, too. I just don’t understand this revulsion you have towards nature. And for the most part, I pity you.

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Zette


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Perfume? On my crotch?

I’d bet money that I’m not the only female here that is allergic to perfumed & dyed stuff. I have to use white, unscented toilet paper, white, unscented, non-deodorant soap, and perfume & dye-free laundry soap, and if I douche, it’s with vinegar & water. My skin itself is not allergic–just my vaginal area. I get yeast and bladder infections from that stuff. I can’t even take a bubble bath, or use bath oils.

Thus being the case, if I tried to use anything but Ivory soap & water down there, I’d promptly put myself out of commission.

So, the next time you don’t smell perfume on your partner’s crotch, just think–she’s really doing you a favor. She’s not running the risk of infection, because she actually wants to do the wild thing with you! Wow!

And yes, this does belong in MPSIMS.

Thank all the gods I read this!

Textures! In vaginas! Well, I’ll be damned. What’ll they think of next?

I guess I’ll have to add some digital exploration to my foreplay rather than just saying, “Brace yourself.”

Geez.

Mark, have you ever really had sex?


I am me… accept it or not.

Let me ask that again for personality #2…NITWATCH2 have you ever really had sex?.. Okay, have I missed anybody?


I am me… accept it or not.

This is interesting. Probably I did place the post on the wrong board.

The main object of the post was simply to explain that men are not JUST interested in what goes on between their legs during a sexual encounter and that they have an ability to pay attention to ALL of the girl. (Woman, female, chick, significant other, – just to satisfy those readers who seem remarkably sensitive to terms)

There was nothing in there to state that a ‘woman SHOULD’ do anything, but just an opinion and only a couple of lines all totaled. The one with the hair was to indicate that a good man pays attention to it, not that he has his eyes shut and is thinking about someone else. (I have read many, many a gripe over that in other areas.)

I find it interesting that so many of the readers ignored the sections concerning what a man actually observes and promptly took offense to the lesser statements concerning a woman applying perfume or whatever for her partner.

FRETFUL: promptly ignored everything else but that in the post and attacked it, even though that was not the main topic.

BEADALIN promptly focused in on one aspect and ignored all else, though that particular topic has been discussed by many a guy in many a bar and I have had many a woman mention it.

ALPHAGENE ignored everything also and concentrated on the same spot as BEADALIN.

FLYPSIDE lost the context entirely, choosing to again attack the secondary aspects of the post, then becoming defensive and suspicious when criticized. Not to mention hostile. To you, especially, I would like to point out that, professionally, I’ve had a woman ask me if the vagina of an Asian Woman is actually ‘slanted,’ and she was 31. I found it necessary to explain to a 29 year old woman that the ‘pull out’ method is NOT a good birth control method because of the male tendency to ‘dribble’ prior to climax and the ability of only ONE sperm to make her pregnant. Of course there were other things women asked me, professionally, like about an aspirin tablet being a birth control pill, and if the real birth control pills should be ‘inserted’ down there and if it was true that if the guy whacked off once prior to intercourse that he could not get her PG when he went off in her later.

DRAIN BEAD also focused in on only one thing, and yes, MEN do make those jokes. I worked construction for a time and learned every possible nasty, descriptive phrase there ever was for what is between a woman’s legs and any scent there in. Plus I’ve also heard some remarkable ones on the 92.7 WZZR radio talk show and Howard Stern, the slug, has made some interesting comments.

As much as I hate to point it out, mainly for the mass of comments it will draw concerning myself, men are not the most flattering when it comes to describing that part of the female anatomy most are virtually constantly fascinated with and desire most.

SATAN almost got it, but focused in on the minor side topic and ignored the main concept. I did point out that it was not for all encounters, but just something that was nice. He seemed to miss that point that the main concept of the post actually agreed with him. The ‘scent,’ SATAN, is not from the male deposit, but from the normal internal bacteria and fluids present. With most women, who are clean, without douching, it is usually mild. I was surprised to discover just how many men actually dislike the natural scent, which is why there was and is a major business in scented products for ‘down there.’

No market for a product means no sales. There still is a major market for these things. You actually missed the many lines about the man’s visual experience, which has a tendency to make the sexual encounter ‘spiritual.’ By the way, I guess I must be a ‘wussy’ then because I’ve encountered women whose ‘natural scent’ has made me think of bad fish and made me very reluctant to poke my face near there. Again, in discussions professionally with men, THAT subject has come up and I was surprised to find out just how many men, (guys, dudes, studs, ect) notice it and the degrees to which they dislike it. (One poor guy thought he might be turning homosexual because the scent repelled him and other guys said how much they liked it. It was explained to him by a skilled therapist that he did not have to like it and the man was relieved to know that he was not turning gay.)

GIRL NEXT DOOR: Hmmmm. I suppose you prefer your male encounters to hump away, concentrating only on your vagina and nothing else. Not seeing YOU, not smelling YOU, not taking care to do anything for YOU, not being aware of how YOU feel, how YOU move or even noticing that expensive perfume you daubed behind your ears or under your nipples for him? You also missed the main context. Tell me, WHAT do you see, feel, smell, taste during the act? Nothing? Again, the main context is simply that a man actually does encompass the entirety of his partner during the sex act. Did you know that a guy will note the difference in your voice during IT? He will also subconsciously take in the VIBRATION of your voice through your torso if you talk while pressed together?

HANDY: Right. Medical Tech. Psychiatric Tech. You get to understand a lot about people that way. I figure you’re probably in need of a shrink.

NITWATCH2: Thanks bud. I appreciate your support but you’re fighting a loosing battle here. After all, since you agree with me, you MUST be me, which I’m sure is a real shock to Ann. :slight_smile:

ZETTE: I guess you also like your men to hump and run and not notice anything about you but your groinal area.

MOOSIEGIRl: Same for you? When you have a special guy, do you not, from time to time, fix yourself up special for him? Does he not do the same for you? What did you find so offensive? The part that a guy will admire a woman’s skin? Her shape? Her muscles? Her hair? Her eyes? Should a man just concentrate only on the vaginal area, his own building climax and ignore the many other aspects of his partner? No where in the post did it state that ‘A WOMAN MUST’ do this or that. It was pointing out what a guy will see that a woman is often not aware of. Did you know that a guy can detect the glands in your breasts with his finger tips? Many women I talked to figured they did not pay THAT much attention during sex. I also talked to one guy who could not get intensely excited unless he had covered his girls nipples with red lipstick. If found it interesting and a later conversation with his girl informed me that she thought it a bit odd, but kinky and she liked it. Now, was he an oddball or was she?

VALERIEBLAISE: Control? Explain where, please? Do you put on lipstick now and then for your guy? Does he wear those special briefs you like so much? Do you like to ‘dress-up’ for him and feel ‘kinky,’ or do you like it when he uses toys for you? No where in the post was there a phrase stating ‘a WOMAN SHOULD DO THIS …’ There were many areas pointing out WHAT A MAN WILL OBSERVE that a woman does. Hey, if you like to just jump in and pound away until the act is done, fine. Tell me, can you smell the shampoo in your guys hair? His hair spray? His deodorant? Feel the texture of his skin? Do you notice the changing timbre of his voice? The taste of his mouth? If so, does that mean you are demanding control in sex? Also, I have heard many, many a woman describe the ‘secret’ of putting a little perfume around her privates. THAT’S how I learned about it and discovered it later in many, many a sexual education book. A guy does NOT put it on his Slim Jim, but in the hair around it. The HAPPY HOOKER, a $2000 a night call girl, once wrote about such things in her radical book in the 70s. Conversations I’ve had with professional call girls and guys mention the same thing, to be used on occasion. (Actually, the guys do it more.)

CRISTI: Fine. So? You bath, don’t you? The scent of your soap will linger there. Was it stipulated that you HAD to do that? Or did you take offense because you cannot?

The entire post was simply to point out to many griping women th

That’s almost as long as the Divine Comedy.

I wanted to discuss an issue that I feel Mark took a bit too much heat for: vaginal odours. I will not discuss my experiences with men because I haven’t had any, so don’t think I am attacking women here.

I am an incurable addict to every inch of the female body, and I mean every last inch. However I have to say that some women smell bad. And almost all women will stink abominably if they live in a hot climate and have been cranking their private parts with cheap one-ply toilet paper all day. Women can smell different depending on what part of the cycle they are experiencing, and sometimes the smell is very unpleasant.

I agree that douching every time you have sex is unreasonable and no doubt harmful. But there are women out there who REALLY need to care for themselves a little better. Anyone who has ever stuck their tongue inside a vagina will taste, smell, and feel the difference between a month of normal vaginal deposits/secretions and a clean vagina.

I feel very strongly about this topic because I can’t imagine life without going down on women. I think perfume on private parts is ridiculous, but a little dabbed on underwear can be a nice touch.

And remember: some women naturally taste/smell great, and others are not so lucky. It’s ridiculous to believe that all women taste/smell good. If the natural (not dirty) smell of a particular woman’s vagina bothers you, I think you will probably get used to it in time. But if a woman has a civilized level of hygiene I tend to love the smell and taste.

It must be the same for guys. I imagine that women trade horror stories among themselves, about unwashed foreskins full of dirt, long smelly pubic hair, etc. It’s all a question of cleanliness.

Are there any health risks associated with douching once or twice a month (like after the period)?

Well, that’s a bad way to start… Pull up your chair, kids, Uncle Mark is going to tell us all a story. :wink:

As far as I’m concerned, there are two kinds of people: assholes and decent people. You’ll find them in both your categories, good-looking and plain (or is that fat?).

I have nothing to say about a man being visual and enjoying every little inch of a woman’s body, that’s fine! Every woman wants a man like that. The problem I have with your post is that you seem to be asking for the perfect woman, with the perfect smell and the perfect taste. So much for spontaneity.

Even if a woman poofs her hair beforehand, you honestly think it’s going to stay that way during a wild session of lovemaking? (assuming that’s how things go for you) I don’t know about you, but my hair gets messed up and frankly, it’s the least of either his or my concern.

Aye, aye, Captain! Douche me with your best shot! (apologies to Pat Benatar)

As others have pointed out, douching is out. Doctors say it all the time. Are you willing to pay for the antibiotics? Didn’t think so. I do wash and bathe so that’ll have to do. It’s not worth getting infections just to cleanse the odors. Start in the shower if you don’t like the odors.


Some drink at the fountain of knowledge…others just gargle.

Holy geez, folks! Need you wonder how sex got to be a taboo topic? Here comes Mark, talking to us about he personally experiences sex, and you blast him out of the water.

Okay, so maybe he’s not your idea of super-stud of the century, but give him a break!

If I had any temptation to discuss my personal experiences openly in this forum, I think I’ll shelve them for the time being.

(Great … now I’ll be called a wussy or a fraidy-cat or something.)

There is something wrong with a man who doesn’t love eating pussy. The first time I did it I thought I had died and gone to heaven. Ambrosia!

Yo - Mark-ita-nit. Please spare us from the nauseous bullshit you write while holding your pee wee in your hand?

Anyone laying bets that this fruitloop has never been laid?

(Didn’t we already determine that Mark has imaginary friends that show up to back him up on the board?)


>^,^<
KITTEN
Please tell your pants it’s not polite to point.

Maybe the women mark has been with aren’t too clean,its not like he can do any better?This is Sooo weird. I do not want to date This guy!

I have to agree and be one of the few to defend Mark for his post.

His intention was to affirm that not all men are complete assholes and do enjoy the act and the woman as an experience that is more than screwing. Much of what was posted was picked apart like vultures on a carcass.

“So, I’ve had to write out what a GOOD man sees when having sexual congress with a woman. NOTICE, I stated GOOD MAN, because I am fully aware of the guys (and gals), who hump away with their main fixation only between their legs. (Not that there is anything wrong with that now and then.)”

And the title “ARE ALL GUYS SELFISH BUGGERS DURING SEX” should give everyone the intention of the post.

It seems that many are focused on vaginal odors as opposed to the post in it’s entirety.

Lighten up, we don’t live long enough to be pissed off over something like this < giggle >


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