The fifteen-year-old daughter? I assume she picked up social media by osmosis. They all use that stuff.
Just curious, but what would emancipation mean for a 15-year-old in a case like this? Does she get to strike out on her own, have her own apartment, get a job like an adult? Does she get funneled into the foster care system? Does she get taken in by an adult relative or friend?
That was sarcasm. Look at her parents.
(I just edited the previous post to make it apparent I was being sarcastic)
That was my point; whoever her parents are, she would be using social media.
Oh, got it.
Welcome to the 21st Century. The days of kids being docile consumers into nothing but boys, makeup and shopping are over. Kids these days are very much aware of what is happening in the world and willing to take a stand for what they believe in. Take a look at Greta Thunbird, and the Parkland high schoolers.
It is a natural rebellion that often leads kids see their parents as monsters. But in this case it is actually true. Every day Claudia sees her mom get up in front of cameras promoting obvious falsehoods, and spreading hate in service of a man who is actively making the country and world she is going to inherit a much worse place. Unlike most kids of her generation she due to her family has a notoriety to actually make a difference.
Greta Thunberg and the Parkland high schoolers are not rebelling against their parents. They are kids with good role models and families who support them and provide a good moral framework from which to enact their activism.
Claudia does not strike me as a Greta. Though I’m happy to be proven wrong.
So only kids from good background can be politically active or have good intentions? That makes no sense. Talk about sins of the fathers.
Not at all what I said.
Let’s just see how this plays out. If I’m wrong, I’ll gladly admit to it.
Not at all, and if that was meant to be a joke, it wasn’t funny. I used to get hit with a literal hickory stick (though the emotional intimidation was worse than the physical punishment, which was merely severe, not burning-holes-in-your-arm-with-a-cigarette-butt level) and I was scared shitless of my parents.
The way your first comment read, it could very much be taken as implying that the main thing you’re seeing in this is that standards of parental discipline for teenagers are slipping, and that this is something you disapprove of. That’s probably something you should have clarified if that wasn’t your intent.
So, essentially, you think that Claudia is lying?
Why not take what she says at face value and show her some respect? Why denigrate her?
Seriously; that is fucked up. Project much?
What have I said that would lead you to think that this is what I think?
I’m saying that it is more likely that there is something quite wrong with her than not. If more kids were born to this world with the level of self-awareness and moral standing in spite of their upbringing, there would be far fewer Trumps in it.
Wow, I woke up this morning to over 30 replies in this thread. Sometimes it’s a bitch being in a very different time zone from most posters. And it was hard reading all the replies one by one without plunging in and answering immediately, without finishing the thread. (But as you can see, I gave into temptation only once.)
Anyway, strange as it may seem, I’m sympathetic to a range of points of view in this thread. First off, NONE of us know Claudia and NONE of us have any real, on-the-ground knowledge of what goes on in that home. Politics aside, given the facts we do have access to, it seems plausible that George and Kellyanne have not been attentive parents who imbued their kids with good values.
Claudia is only 15 and I wouldn’t expect her to behave like a mature adult (or a “40 year old college professor” or whatever someone said upthread). What I tend to suspect, based on her tweets, is that she has learned the fine art of manipulation from her mom. Her behavior does not seem healthy to me.
Do I blame her? Not in the least. Do I support her desire to get away from what is likely a highly toxic environment? Of course I do. Do I think she’s probably just fine, emotionally, and that she’s strategizing in a mature fashion? Nope.
FWIW, I have a friend who was emancipated. He grew up with a single father who used to fill the fridge, lock it, and not let his kids eat. Sometimes he would open the fridge, show his hungry kids the food and help himself to some, and say, “you kids can’t have any, you don’t deserve it.” Other times, he’d lock them out of the house and they’d have to sleep out of doors, finding whatever shelter they could.
Is what the Conway kids endure that bad? For their sake, I hope not.
Lack of wide eyed optimism does not imply projection.
I’m not seeing the evidence of that. Her desire for emancipation, and her public calling out of her pretty awful parents, aren’t evidence of that.
One piece of evidence we have is that she’s been raised by monsters. That doesn’t make her a monster too. But surely we acknowledge that her upbringing may have had a negative impact on the kind of person she’s growing up to be.
That’s not evidence. Sure, a shitty upbringing is devastating; but I know plenty of people whose childhood by fire tempered them into amazing adults.
If nothing in her childhood matters to this discussion, why are we having it?