Or frogs that can cook?
I never worry about whether women want men around, I worry about whether they want me around.
I’d worry about this (or not) if the only reason women keep men around is for sperm. In my experience women find far more use from men as bored shopping companions, givers of flowers, and dress up dolls.
If you’re a man who’s been married for ten years, what are you more likely to be doing on a Saturday night?
a) Donating sperm
b) Been dragged, against your will, through a mall?
If you picked B, perhaps you look forward to cloning.
I’ve had all the babies I want and I still like having Mr. Woodhouse around. I think I’m not alone in believing men are good for more than just donating sperm.
That man sounds like an ultra conservative who would also fear “women’s lib.” (He may not be, but he sure sounds like other ultra conservative men I’ve known.)
Well, I’m worried about this, but only because I work in the purposefully hard to open jam jar industry.
As long as it gets cold at night, women will always want men to keep them warm. (We preheat the covers, which is why they steal them)
Good point. And if women don’t have men around, who will they blame?
Any man who thinks cloning will make him obsolete is a man who believes reproduction is his only useful purpose in the world. That’s a serious, dreadful self-esteem problem. I’ve had some very dark days in my life, but I never thought I was that worthless.
A stunningly large percentage of the female population already finds me unnecessary, cloning or no.
I have been labouring under a misapprehension: I always thought your username was in reference to the famous feminist slogan “A woman without a man is like a fish without a bicycle.”
I’m not worried.
Women have made it quite clear that I’m not necessary to them now, so why would I worry if the rest of the men joined me?
Not really, except in a “what if some loonie future female genetic engineer decides that whipping up an anti-male virus is a good idea because of this ?” nightmare scenario. In the sense of normal women turning on men because of cloning, no.
Perhaps he watched/read some of the interviews with extreme feminists who made comments after Dolly the Sheep was cloned about how now they can “get rid of” men, and decided that they represent normal women. Or read some of the feminist utopian/dystopian ( depending on your view ) fiction about societies where men have been all killed; the solution to violence being to kill all men you see. They may be a fringe, and incapable of carrying out their fantasies, but there are quite a few women who think like that.
Nitpick : It’s a man who thinks that his only purpose in the eyes of women is reproduction. It’s more about cynicism/paranoia about women than low self esteem, IMHO.
Also, I’ve been hearing this silly little rumor that some women actually like having sex with men.
Sounds crazy I know.
Well, women have the advantage right now because they can just go to a sperm bank. Or the local bar.
Men can’t go to the local egg bank.
But, by the time “advancements in cloning” make men superfluous, advancements in cloning and artificial wombs will make women superfluous.
At some point we’ll achieve a sort of reproductive equality and maybe we’ll treat each other as equals.
It’s not like all the men and women in the world are going to turn gay and want to raise children with each other.
It’s feminist fear mongering of insecure men.
As president of my local tinfoil hat brigade I must protest this demeaning statement.
It’s not stupid at all.
No kidding, I thought the same thing.
Me too. If it isn’t that, what is it?
Anyway, no, I don’t feel threatened even by an explicit statement that men should be phased out by not making any more of them. I mean, who cares?
If someone was suggesting men should be rounded up and culled, I might be glancing over my shoulder nervously, but if someone said they want their distant future descendants to live in a world where there are no men, why should I care? I won’t be there. So advancements in cloning don’t worry me at all.
Furthermore. Either men are necessary, or they’re not:
-If they’re *not *necessary, then women don’t need to be ‘shown’ this - they’ll figure it out for themselves, so there would be little point in fretting and trying to conceal it.
-If men *are *necessary, and you try to ‘show’ women that men are not necessary, they’ll figure out that it’s bullshit, so again, why worry?
As long as they hold off next weekend so mrAru and I can do turkey day with the parental units we are good to go. After than Big Yellow Daddy can release the zombie alien penguins they have trapped in Webster,
I am not sure where anyone gets the idea that a significant portion of women want to be around other women a lot more than they want to be around men. Women tend to be brutal, cruel creatures and will tribalize and fight each other at the drop of a hat. Sometimes it is a cold war and sometimes it is a hot war but it doesn’t get publicized as much as men swinging fists in a prison yard. There are lots of ways that I know this but let’s just say I was raised by professional single mother, my wife is successful, I have two daughters, and I work in a professional industry that is skewed towards females. I also have lots of female friends so I get the inside look.
It gets ugly out there and I truly believe men generally like each other more than females do. At work, it is common for females including my bosses to ask me to contact others, especially females, when communications have broken down and things have started to turn into a professional flame-fest. I have an advantage in contacting these professional women about whatever business is at hand in large part because I am a male. My mother warned me about the phenomena years ago and I have found it to be true.
I am not sure where the idea of females being the kinder and gentler sex comes from. An all female society would not be a nice and friendly place although I would be the last to sign up for an all male society either.
That aspect of my functionality was replaced years ago by a heated mattress pad.
OTOH, I’m good for dealing with the occasional house centipede. They creep my wife out far more than any spider does.
Hell, they creep me out too. Which is why I use the shop-vac to shloop them up, since that doesn’t involve my having to get too close to the creepy buggers.