Are straight women less attractive than bi and lesbian women?

How doesn’t it? And I see no holes in the logic.

You seem to have missed an important point people have repeatedly made. Let me point it out for you again:

The majority of girls you know is not the majority of girls. Do you see the distinction? If you don’t, then further conversation with you is pointless.

Hmm interesting, this reminds me about the concept of men on the down low. Is that similar to that? I heard that happens as well. But basically you are saying that any young attractive woman if having lesbian affairs? Or about the women in the glam industry?

This is truly interesting to me.

By the way, the Katy Perry song came out in mid-2008. The idea that this marks the start of a new generation or changed anyone’s sexuality is at least a goofy as anything else that has been posted in this thread.

You’ve misrepresented my statement (not Fred’s). My impression, based on actors and other Hollywood types I’ve worked with, is that many really good looking men are gay or bi. Sure, there are ugly gay guys, too.

There may also be all kinds of sampling biases which make my impression inaccurate. It is something you can’t help but notice, though. Maybe the industry draws more gay men in general, or maybe gay men tend to be better actors, designers, dancers, singers, etc.

Yes I did, and I added that it’s not only me, but every person I’ve spoken to on this matter, which are all coincidentally between 18-25. You missed my post on that ai guess.

I am shocked, SHOCKED! to hear that homosexuality is rampant in the American entertainment industry.

I know you are sarcastic, but I’m honestlynschocked that most women are doing this.

I wouldn’t say any, no. I would say some, with it being common enough that when I find out about a given woman’s lesbian fling, I’m not surprised.

I’m talking about the glam industry, but also about young women who are on the periphery of the industry who work as bank tellers, dental assistants, etc.

Take it back to the Madonna and Btriney kiss then. What major celebrity kissed a girl first and liked it was the start of it, or at for women to come out about their true sexuality.

No, he’s saying some young attractive women make out with their friends, and some of them have sex with other women. You appear to have trouble distinguishing some girls from all of them.

Some girls play video games. Some don’t. Some girls work in retail. Some don’t. See how that works?

What on earth makes you think Madonna and/or Britney enjoyed it?

Wouldn’t that encompass most women then, as the jobs you mentioned are average careers? That would mean women in most career fields are susceptible to this.

You misspelled “Eleanor Roosevelt.”

No he said that many young glam women and c steer women do this, which encompasses most women does it not, excluding unemployed women, which I’m guessing when getting employed do this also. The fact that Madonna is bisexual and has kissed other celebrities as well, also Brittney is bisexual.

Sure, it’s an obvious point, but then, I thought everything I’ve posted in this thread was obvious.

Again, I don’t think there’s a “lesbian crisis.” And no orgies at PTA meetings.

Girls hooking up with girls has become fashionable in the popular culture. I don’t know if it’s more prevalent, or just more visible.

The errors in this short sentence include:

  1. You never hear about girls who don’t kiss girls.
  2. There are no girls in the U.S. who won’t kiss other girls.
  3. The idea that what you hear about reflects reality.
  4. The idea that something can’t possibly exist if you’re not personally aware of it.

So are you really going to sit here and say you can’t see the problem with any of what you’re saying? It doesn’t seem ridiculous to you that a derivative pop song from mid-2008 completely changed female sexuality? It didn’t occur to you that something can exist without your knowing about it, that what you see might not be universal, and that girls might sometimes pretend to do stuff (like kiss another girl or say they’re bi) just to get attention from a guy? None of this ever occurred to you?

I am American and your age. Of the hundreds of women I’ve been acquainted with, I’ve known two lesbians, one bi woman, and three or four more who might have been. I’ve seen exactly one kiss between women, both of whom were very straight and only doing it for giggles. My experience is the opposite of yours. Women of our generation are not 90% bi.

I’m looking forward to your response to this.

Edit: On preview, I should add that I am employed. I have not seen higher rates of homosexuality or bisexuality among employed women in our generation.

What?

You haven’t provided anything that qualifies as “evidence” rather than “unproven bullshit assertion”. As previously explained, claims based on your own personal experience or what you believe or remember to be your own personal experience do not count as supporting evidence for claims about general social phenomena.

No previous evidence about heterosexuality has been debunked at all (although I don’t know what you mean by “you showed”, since my post that you responded to was my first post in this thread).

There’s plenty of other valid evidence out there contradicting your assertion, though. For example, there’s this 2011 report on the incidence of homosexuality, which estimates that something under 4% of all American adults identify as lesbian, gay, or bisexual.

Even if we expand the criterion to include all those who “acknowledge at least some same-sex attraction”, a criterion that has been surveyed for American adults between the ages of 18 and 44, it amounts to only about 11% of them.

If only about one-tenth of all adults under 45 acknowledge any same-sex attraction, it’s ridiculous to suggest that over nine-tenths of all female adults under 25 fall in that category. The demographics implied by your claim simply are not realistic.

Do you mean over 30 or my age of 24? That’s a big difference? Are you sheltered or do. You go out? You wouldn’t see this if you are inside all day. Also, if your area is one of those by ho ophobic, conservative regions then I’m guessing that could have swayed your results as well.