[QUOTE=Pushkin]
Job apps? I could pit the British Immigration and Nationality directorate. They changed all their paperwork last September just so they could ask if any students wishing to stay and complete their course in the UK had commited genocide or any other crimes against humanity :dubious:
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:mad: And I was so looking forward to Oxford!
[QUOTE=Ethilrist]
More seriously, I see they’ve added another layer of wheat/chaff separation: used to be there’d be the headhunter interview, where they see if you have anything remotely like the skills necessary for the job, to find out if it’s worth bothering a tech for the tech interview, where they find out whether or not the headhunter is a moron, and if you pass that, you get the manager interview, where they find out whether or not you fit into the Corporate Culture and are willing to be a Part of the Team and Enhance the Productivity Paridigm and follow the Seventeen Steps of Moderately Productive Drones.
To all of this, they’ve added the pre-screening of finding out if you’re willing to jump through a hoop, and, if so, how high can they pick it up off the ground before you say “screw this” and go do something else, and, especially, are you willing to wear a frilly pink dress while you jump through the hoop.
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This crap won’t go on for much longer. It’s only here as the Market was an Employers market, but now with Unemployment down, it’ll change to an Employees maket. Sometimes businesses forget that they need employees even more than Empoyees need to work. Soon, the smarter, better, more qualified employees will all go to work for Companies without silly-ass mickey-mouse policies, and the silly-assed mickey-mouse companies will either change or go out of business.
[QUOTE=DrDeth]
This crap won’t go on for much longer. It’s only here as the Market was an Employers market, but now with Unemployment down, it’ll change to an Employees maket. Sometimes businesses forget that they need employees even more than Empoyees need to work. Soon, the smarter, better, more qualified employees will all go to work for Companies without silly-ass mickey-mouse policies, and the silly-assed mickey-mouse companies will either change or go out of business.
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Don’t hold your breath waiting for companies to wise up (or employees either, for that matter). Calgary has been an employees’ market for years now (we’ve got what, a -10% unemployment rate?), and they’re still treating employees like crap (and people are still taking it).
[QUOTE=featherlou]
Don’t hold your breath waiting for companies to wise up (or employees either, for that matter). Calgary has been an employees’ market for years now (we’ve got what, a -10% unemployment rate?), and they’re still treating employees like crap (and people are still taking it).
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Well, then- stop taking it.
[QUOTE=The Weird One]
:mad: And I was so looking forward to Oxford!
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Maybe they’re looking for Osama. Apparantly some men in suits, reputedly from UK intelligence agencies came round a few months back to ask about Middle Eastern students taking aeronautical engineering…
I was unemployed for 6 months or so.
I’m a degreed engineer with a diverse experience, so I wasn’t looking for the level of job that typically engenders such nonsense.
One potential employer advertised a job that nearly exactly fit my qualifications. To the point that I seriously doubt any other canditates had the experience and skills they said they were looking for. Really. It was as if they wrote the discription after reading my resume.
Turns out this employer also has a large, largely unskilled, workforce. All applicants must submit to the subject nonsense.
One question that truly baffled me (I paraphrase): “If I were caught stealing, I would rat out the people who helped me.”
a)Strongly agree
b)whatever
c)whatever
d)whatever
e) strongly disagree
May I suggest
f) Where were you fucking morons when I filled out the previous questions that clearly indicated that you don’t have anything to steal that is worth (take your pick) My job, my freedom, my self respect.
g) Granting your insulting primise that I would steal from my employer, what makes you think I’d be stupid enough to endanger my friends, or put myself at risk of being ratted out by same?
Then there came an IQ test. I’m good at such. Real good. I have no doubt I rated as genious/sociopath. No I don’t think I’m that freakin’ smart. I’m pretty smart, and am very good at taking tests
About a week later I get a letter , again paraphrasing: “Dear mister Kevbo, We know you cheated on the IQ part, and probably the honesty evauation too, so thanks, but no thanks.”
But wait. It gets better:
The freaking day after the I get the letter I get a call from a “networking” contact.
Turns out the group that needs the work done can’t find anyone to do it, so they are looking for a contractor.
So I end up starting my own buisness and charging these assholes out the wazoo for the same freaking job I wasn’t honest enough to do as an employee.
Turns out the guy I’d be working for is a micromanaging dickweed, but that is fine, the more work he makes for me, the more I bill them.
They keep making noises about hiring me as an employee, but the number I gave them is too rich for thier blood, even though it is only about 75% of what I am invoicing as a contractor.
Meantime I found anothe contracting gig, and have just accepted full time employment at my asking price. (shoulda asked for more I guess)
Thing is, I could be working for these guys the last 4 months, I’d be half way happy, they’d be happy, and the only reason it isn’t so is an HR department run amok.
I was once asked (in person at an interview, not on an application) “Why do you want to work here?” and I said:
“Well, I live right down the street.”
She laughed, I got the job.
[QUOTE=control-z]
I’ve never did drugs in my life. I’ve also decided that if a job requires drug tests either before or during employment, I ain’t doing it. I’ll see how that goes for me if I ever quit my current 11+ year job.
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No IT jobs for you, then.
[QUOTE=Ethilrist]
No IT jobs for you, then.
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That’s what I do. Just not at a big company.
I’ve never heard of drug testing of IT workers.
[QUOTE=DrDeth]
This crap won’t go on for much longer. It’s only here as the Market was an Employers market, but now with Unemployment down, it’ll change to an Employees maket. Sometimes businesses forget that they need employees even more than Empoyees need to work. Soon, the smarter, better, more qualified employees will all go to work for Companies without silly-ass mickey-mouse policies, and the silly-assed mickey-mouse companies will either change or go out of business.
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Must be nice to live in a state with a non-craptacular job market.
:: sigh ::