AshenLady....

[Euphonious_Polemic]

Originally Posted by Euphonious Polemic
Oh, well if your mom said it, it must be true then.

It it fun playing the victim?

@AshenLady

She was a first generation American, and was the daughter of victims of oppression in Eastern Europe. Don’t think that history never repeats itself.

So, the answer to my question would be “yes” then. Thanks for your honesty.

[Kyla]

@Claverhouse

One small problem occurs with jewish demographics in that they never seem to like the host populations much. And prefer the hosts’ majority cultures weakened in order to prevent such persecution of their people as has happened elsewhere.

What?

[Mr.Excellent]

@AshenLady

The GOP has already called for a cessation of ALL aid to Israel, Rand Paul, Tea Baggers and they are using financial problems as a reason to cut aid to Israel.

That, however, is not anti-Semitism. Whether you agree with their position or not, these men advocate a change in our relationship with Israel - a foreign power, just like any other foreign power. It’s certainly possible for one to be both critical of Israel and an anti-Semite - “I don’t like aid to Israel because Israel is full of Jews” - but one can also be critical of Israel for reasons that have nothing to do with Judaism: “I don’t believe Israel treats the Palestinians fairly, so I don’t want to send them aid.”

[Ibn_Warraq]

@AshenLady

No, they are from Samoa, Polamalu anyway.

He’s a defensive back, not a wide receiver.

[Ibn_Warraq]

@Claverhouse

One small problem occurs with jewish demographics in that they never seem to like the host populations much. And prefer the hosts’ majority cultures weakened in order to prevent such persecution of their people as has happened elsewhere.

Huh?

[loshan]

@AshenLady

My mother, rest in peace, said that someday, not in her time, but maybe in mine or her grandchildrens’, what happened in England, France, Spain, Russia and everywhere else on earth, Jews would be tossed out of the USA, just like the rest of the powers in their time.

I can see this happening.

Maybe you should get your sight checked. Jus’ sayin.

[AshenLady]

@Ibn_Warraq

He’s a defensive back, not a wide receiver.

and not a Muslim, either.

[silenus]

SS St. Louis?

Nah. Too easy.

[AshenLady]

@FinnAgain

Ashen, you are an idiot and a bigot.
Seriously, shut the fuck up and go away.

Thanks.

Oh, and as long as I’m at it:

This is fucking stupid too. “Host” populations? We haven’t officially divided nations into their “real” citizens and the Jews since the dark days of the early 20th century. It’s not a choice between being German and Jewish anymore. And no, Jews don’t nefariously try to weaken their “host” nations culture so as to prevent persecution.
Good lord, is it too much to ask for a week or two to pass without some really striking religion or ethnic-based stupidity?

You’re pretty fucked up, yourself, ole boy.

[AshenLady]

@Claverhouse

America appears to have been more friendly and beneficial to jewish people than any other country on earth (apart from Israel, of course ).

One small problem occurs with jewish demographics in that they never seem to like the host populations much. And prefer the hosts’ majority cultures weakened in order to prevent such persecution of their people as has happened elsewhere.

The USA is unlikely to turn on jewish people, nor on Israel: but if events wipe out American power ( as may happen to any major power even, say China or India if enough of them died from a new plague ) and/or diminish the post-protestant christian influence in America, I should not think the prospects for jews will be very good in a muslim or Chinese dominated world, nor would there be many places to go next en masse.

Um, German Jews were very, very Pro-German and took their patriotism seriously, as in WWI, they proudly served. They were the product of Moses Mendelsohn’s entreaties for Jews to assimilate and assimilate they did. They almost tried to “out-German” the Germans. This annoyed the Germans, no end.

[loshan]

@AshenLady

Um, German Jews were very, very Pro-German and took their patriotism seriously, as in WWI, they proudly served. They were the product of Moses Mendelsohn’s entreaties for Jews to assimilate and assimilate they did. They almost tried to “out-German” the Germans. This annoyed the Germans, no end.

So, if I am reading this right. It isn’t about Muslims, or Germans, or Americans. It is pretty much anyone who is. not. Jewish. Right?

Yeah. Have fun with that.

[Claverhouse]

@Kyla

What?

Of every place where jews were a distinctive minority, from Babylon to Egypt to Rome to medieval europe to Dar al Islam, including Ottoman Turkey, to Poland and eastern europe over the last 500 years, they seem to have heartily disliked and despised ( with possibly good reason, except no-one was forcing them to stay wherever apart from the first two ) the dominant majority.
The only real place they felt happy was in late 19th century Germany, once they’d left the ghetto. That didn’t work out that well.

For those reasons a few of them supported revolutions and idealistic changes that didn’t benefit the host countries that much in the end. Although not typical of the whole this fed into the anti-semites’ obsessions and bred distrust. The most were typified by the few.
And when I say not typical of the whole it can never ever be emphasized too much that most jewish people throughout history have been dirt-poor: as opposed to the baroque fantasies of ‘wealthy exploiting jews’ favoured by anti-jewish lunatics. There may be a Rothschild Family, with a rich and wondrous internet sub-culture devoted to their alleged machinations, but most were not Rothschilds.
Even in Poland.

[Steve_MB]

@AshenLady

No one else uses their religion as an excuse for violence

You really aren’t very bright, are you?

[John_Mace]

@AshenLady

The GOP has already called for a cessation of ALL aid to Israel,

I call BS on that.

Rand Paul, Tea Baggers and they are using financial problems as a reason to cut aid to Israel.

Rand Paul is a libertarian when it comes to foreign aid. He probably doesn’t want anyone to get foreign aid.

[Ludovic]

@Claverhouse

The USA is unlikely to turn on jewish people

I know I was pretty unsuccessful at it in high school

[John_Mace]

@Claverhouse

Of every place where jews were a distinctive minority, from Babylon to Egypt to Rome to medieval europe to Dar al Islam, including Ottoman Turkey, to Poland and eastern europe over the last 500 years, they seem to have heartily disliked and despised ( with possibly good reason, except no-one was forcing them to stay wherever apart from the first two ) the dominant majority.

Well, I can’t imagine why. What with how splendidly they were treated everywhere.

[loshan]

@Steve_MB

You really aren’t very bright, are you?

No shit.

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No one else uses their religion as an excuse for violence

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Number one reason for violence, through all humanity. All religions have participated in this lovely tradition.Your’s is not an exception.

[Dissonance]

@Claverhouse

favoured by anti-jewish lunatics.

The irony, it burns.

[AshenLady]

I’m busy with the football game. I can’t do both…I shouldn’t have tried.

[loshan]

@AshenLady

I’m busy with the football game. I can’t do both…I shouldn’t have tried.

LMAO

Perfect.

Can’t defend, so disengage.

Got it.