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781

Hey Kozmik,

In post #728 you wrote that the Illuminati “can belong to any religion”.

In post #776 you answered “yes” to the question “are they Luciferians, Satanists, or anything along those lines?”

Am I understand this as that the Illuminati can outwardly pretend to belong to any religion, but that whatever they claim to be, they are actually, secretly, Luciferians, Satanists or something similar?

And if so, could you tell me more about their true, secret, Luciferian/Satanic religion?

Do they, for example, believe in a god? If so, what are the attributes of this god?

Do they follow certain rules or practices dictated by their religion, and if so, could you give us some examples?

Does their religion include masses, rituals, chants, sacrifices, anything like that?

Do they have priests and/or priestesses?

Does they have the equivalent of a Pope - a boss that runs the show? And if so, would this person be identical to the Anarch?

Thanks for your patience!

782

You are, again, completely ignoring the fact that the Wikipedia article you linked to says literally not one word about either Atlantis or the Illuminati. So please explain how this article provides evidence for either one of them.

783

Oh please.
Koz uncovers irrefutable evidences of Illuminati actions in the words chosen by NYT headline writers for page 7 stories. With that type of practice, reading unstated implications into a Wiki article is child’s play.

784

You will agree then, thatthe Illumaniti, should they exist at all, did not originate in Atlantis because the Wikipedia is an objective source overall that decidedly does not mention Atlantis or the Illuminati in its article that you chose to cite as proof of the Illuminati originating in Atlantis.

785

Koz is either making this shit up as we go along or he is letting the crazy out little by little. I think it’s a little of both.

786

That, or the Illuminati directed the removal of the references to themselves and to Atlantis from the Wiki article.

787

Not just that. How many pages in before he mentioned Lizard men? How many pages in before he mentioned Atlantis? Talk about burying your lead. Then he springs shiny new terms he finds on the Internet on us and pretends that’s what he has been talking about all along. It really is fascinating.

788

Another Conspiracy Theorist reporting for duty. Let me know if you want to kick the can or need anything.

789

This aughta be interesting. I can only assume you haven’t read the whole thread but if you don’t mind, would you give us a brief rundown of what conspiracies you believe in?

Capt

790

SleuFeets, what if anything do you disagree with that Kozmik has stated thus far?

791

No.

Yes.

Only the limits that the Earth provides.

Telepathy, telekenesis, precognition.

I don’t know.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes. One attribute is equal status, that they and their god are like a collective soul.

Yes. One example would the the law of free will. They can’t just control all people.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes. Though not necessarily identical to the Anarch. The Anarch is just a position that would be appointed to one of them, any one of them could speak before the world leaders.

I’m saying that Wikipedia as a whole - not just this article - provides evidence for both of them.

Ok.

Indeed.

792

Somehow this threat got a whole lot more intriguing. What do the Atlanteans look like in their non-shapechanged form? Can they interbreed with people? Do you know or suspect of any well-known people who are Atlantean (or part-Atlantean), and if so, who?

793

Please provide further details, Kozmik.

These Illuminati rituals and masses, for example - could you give us a few examples? What language are the chants in? What about the liturgy? (Latin? Atlantean? Hebrew?) Is there a choir? Do the participants wear robes, or pschents, or any other specific ritual garb? And what actually happens during these rituals? Does their god appear to them? Do they sacrifice human beings? Cut their throats? Eat them? And, finally, whatever it is that they do, do they do it while in their human shape, or while in the shapes of snakes? (Or some other animal: Dogs, owls, pigs, wolves?)

Actually, feel free to take us through an entire Illuminati ritual or mass, from beginning to end.

Also: In your opinion, is there anything - anything at all - about the Illuminati culture, religion and/or way of life that you find sympathetic, even loveable? Perhaps even something that us normal human beings could learn from…?

And do you think that, in due time, these shapeshifting Illuminati Satanists can/will chill out and stop bullying us ordinary humanfolk? Or must they be defeated - perhaps even, y’know, exterminated…?

794

Reports from people who have been involved in such rituals - usually kidnapped teens- report hearing latin. An interestingand twisted piece of history to mull over regarding the rituals, sacrifices, and inner workings of the illuminati can be seen in the interesting story of Johnny Gosch. A young man who went missing/kidnapped and reported resurfaced as (adult) Jeff Gannon; the Bush Era white house press reporter who somehow obtained a top secret clearance after having been a male escort and 3 name changes. Johnny Gosch mother states that she knows it is him. Also of note, the kidnapped johnn gosh was mentioned in the Franklin Cover Up. A huge scandal that you prob heard nothing about, that involved billions of dollars in embezzlement and a nasty child abuse ring (utilized by the weatlhy upper class citizens).

Throw in Jon Bonet. . and the Sandusky revelations (and things rumored but not verified) ..and it gives you a pretty good look at the illuminaties preferences and rituals.

795

Hi, SleuFeets, and thank you. I now await Kozmik’s answer to my questions.

One thing, SleuFeets. Could you go through this thread for me - not all of it, if you don’t have the time, but as much of it as you can - and let us know on what points you disagree with Kozmik? Thank you.

Kozmik, I eagerly await your reply to my questions about the Illuminati rituals. Thanks in advance!

796

Except for the fact that none of that has anything to do with the non-existent Illuminati. Is there anything that would tie the random murder of a child and pedophile molestation on a college campus to Atlantean shapeshifter lizard people?

797

Well who said it was a random murder?
that’s first…

798

Well the only thing theorist really agree on is to just not fall into group think just because. As such, there’s no manual or tag lines or beliefs that we ALL subscribe to across the board.

reading here and there. I see that Kozmik is more researched in UFO / alien theories - a little “Law of One” thrown in there…

So basically, I don’t see much for me to agree or disagree with. The search for truth is not a competition (in my book).As information seekers we can add, amend, clarify, or offer our own thoughts.

For instance; the news outlets mentioned CNN and the NY Times I don’t believe can be trusted. due to the fact that they are run as businesses I expect them to..spread the word of the boss.

799

Translucent, luminous.

Yes.

Yes, many people in public such as celebrities, reporters, athletes. They don’t necessarily know they are though.

Ok.

SleuFeets already answered these questions. I will add that their public sacrifices seem to be like Sandy Hook and 9/11, public events which they manipulate. There are other sacrifices, not so public like celebrities and other people being murdered, killed, or otherwise institutionalized which they also manipulate.

Yes. And there are examples in popular culture of them learning from human beings.

Yes, I think that they can “chill out” as they did between the Cold War and the War on Terror. I don’t think that attempting to defeat them or exterminate them would be productive or advisable. That said, I do wonder whether the War on Terror will transform into the New World Order or whether there will be a “lull” as there was between the Cold War and the War on Terror.

Along the lines of the SDMB, Fighting Ignorance.

Yes, however, the “word of the boss” should be read so that you know what’s going on or rather so you know what they want you to think is going on.

800

With respect, sir, I don’t think that he did.

For example, he claimed that the chants, according to survivors, are in Latin. This strikes me as incredibly odd. Why would the Illuminati, with their proud Atlantean heritage, adopt a relative newcomer such as Latin for use in the time-honored rites and rituals of their ancient cult? I must say I find that incredibly hard to believe.

You will note that SleuFeets also did not go into any specifics about, for example, the specific ritual garb worn by the Illuminati during these rituals (if any?), the role of the choir (if there is a choir?), the shape assumed by the participants for the duration of the rituals (man? serpent? which is it?), or even the crucial matter of whether, during these rituals, the dark god of the Illuminati does or does not appears to his (her?) followers. Does he/she or doesn’t he/she?

I’d love to have you answer these questions in your own words, Kozmik.

Also: Which specific Illuminati traits or traditions do you think us humanoids would do well to adopt?

Thank you!