I’m a she. Just for future reference. … it seems that you really want him to answer these questions. So i’ll leave you two to it.
Koz – one more time, how did you come to learn or believe in the origins and supernatural powers of the Illuminati? We’ve all heard of the conspriacy theories that they’re the “power behind the throne” or whatever, but not once have I heard that they are shapeshifting superbeings of ancient origin. Did you read this in a book? What book? Did you draw your own conclusions about the connections to Atlantis and supernatural powers? Based on Wikipedia articles or something?
Re Lair Of The White Worm
I asked because It’s about a cult of ancient serpent people worshiping a serpent/worm deity named Dionin.
I asked about the venom both because of the LOTWW and a book I once saw (and would have bought if I could afford it) that said all the Abrahamic religions were layers of obfuscation over snake worship. It further said that The Holy Grail and the fruit of knowledge were both veils for drinking potent snake venom. I really wish I could remember the title.
David Icke, the Liberace of conspiracy theorists, has been pushing the “Illuminati = ancient shapeshifting reptilians” theory since the early 1990’s. My guess is on Icke being Kozmik’s source (be it directly or indirectly) for the “shapeshifter” thing.
Can’t help you on that specific book, but the idea of an ancient serpent-cult predating all Abrahamic religions popped up, I believe, during the 1800’s.
The best (serious, scholarly, non-bullshit, Doper-friendly) work about the matter would be The Theosophical Enlightenment by Joscelyn Godwin, which shows how ideas about “ancient cults” circulated amongst (mostly) English “gentlemen scholars” during the 19th century, and later went on to influence occultists, early New Age-types, etc.
Koz- thanks for your more recent posts, I find them much more illuminating (see what I did there?) as to your mindset then your earlier ones.
Are the Illuminati monolithic, or do they fight amongst themselves just like normal people? Are all major world events guided or prodded by the Illuminati, or do some have “mundane” explanations (for example, is it possible that a group of religious fanatics got together and decided, without any influence by the Illuminati, to fly planes into buildings)?
The evidence appears to say that it’s a random murder. Do you have any evidence that Jonbenet Ramsey is anything other than what it appears to be? You were the one asserting that there’s some connection with the Illuminati - time to pony up some reason why we should put any credence to your bizarre and nonsensical scenario.
Like others I suggest you read the entire thread. And maybe the earlier Pit thread too. Koz may or may not be the guy you want to be linked to. If you only think there are some who stay in the shadows and are working against out interests you might not. If you believe that the world is run by mutant Atlantean shapeshifters who answer to Lizard People you came to the right place.
Also if you are a fan of one word answers and links that don’t illustrate anyone’s point, welcome. Logic is down the hall to the right.
Do you think somebody assinated Hugo Chavez? Was it the boy scouts?
Kozmik, are you making this all up? If so, is it to have fun at our expense?
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They finally got to Koz!
He probably just got tired of the mocking. If so, I don’t blame him.
I do. Logic and evidence would have prevented mocking 17 pages ago.
He’s the direct cause of the all the mocking. It’s all of his own doing. This isn’t necessarily about his beliefs but his style of argument.
Get your conspiracies straight, for chrissake. 
Sure, but we both know that he doesn’t have any evidence. Knowing that, one can either point and laugh, or try to figure out his precise beliefs and/or the way his mind works, by asking questions and follow-up questions etc.
The latter becomes hard, though, if there is too much of the former – too many schoolyard taunts, and the guy clams up, as in post # 810. It makes the “interview” harder to conduct, see.
Or pointing out that his beliefs lack consistancy and are just plain silly may make him eventually understand in a brief moment of clarity that there is something misfiring in his head. I have hopes that he realizes he is not thinking clearly. It is obvious he has no precise beliefs, it changes everytime he sees something shiny on the internet. We watched the whole G192 thing form from a device he made up to try to illustrate a point to become a cornerstone for his entire belief system (such as it is).
And of course some of it is just reacting to smug answers coming from someone talking about shape shifting Atlanteans controlling the Queen of England for Lizards.
Fair enough. We clearly just have rather different agendas. I personally have no interest whatsoever in trying to help people “realize” that they are “not thinking clearly”. I also don’t think I’m capable of doing so – and certainly not over the internet. I do, however, have an interest in trying to figure out how different people think, feel and believe – in this case, how Kozmik thinks, feels and believes. Hence my questions, which I think yielded some pretty good results, at least for a little while.
I don’t believe per se’ in the “Reptilian agenda” but I have ran across it enough to be familiar with in and not mock people who choose to investigate it. In relation to this, if you so choose, here are some things to consider:
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The Aztecs believed that Tezcatlipoca created war to provide food and drink to the gods.
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Gen 6:1-4So what we see here is that the angels who are called the sons of God in the O.T. came down to mate with the human women. No longer would there be a separation of DNA. Once the giant Nephilim hybrids were born, these legendary warriors (Titans) of renowned fierceness began to kill off all the humans from the earth. In Numbers 11 we are told that they were not only giants but cannibals as well.
The book of Enoch states that they ate the flesh and drank the blood of the people on earth.
3.In recent years, there have been many speculative writings about Planet X, which is also known as Planet Nibiru. Most of these writings are based somewhat on Zecharia Sitchin’s book, The Twelfth Planet. Sitchin, like Velikovsky and Darwin, used his respective theories to support his claims.Planet Nibiru (Ne.Bi.Ru) is known by many names, such as: Planet X, The Twelfth Planet, Marduk, Paradise, “Heaven” and the “Kingdom of the Heavens” and etc. in various cultures.Nibirians, the people of Nibiru, are often referred to as Anunnaki, Nephilim, Elohim (plural for god), and Mardukians.
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A youtube search of ‘reptilian reporters’ yield some very interesting results.
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The size of the Queen Mother’s casket.