Ask the conspiracy theorist

  1. Salt claimed to increase risk of autoimmune disorders.

  2. Severe winter storm “not yet done” threatening East Coast.

  3. Mark Texeira mysteriously “injures his wrist” while swinging the bat.

  4. Florida officials call end to Burmese python hunt.

How many more dots do you need to make the connection? :smack:

In other words, you have nothing even remotely resembling evidence.

The evidence? Seems as though you’ve been drinking the Kool - aid. According to wikipedia: “The case remains unsolved, even after several grand jury hearings”.

Other things of note involving the case:
1.A grand jury voted to indict JonBenet Ramsey’s parents in 1999 on charges of child abuse resulting in death but the prosecutor never signed the indictment.
Why would the DA decide to not prosecute the parents. Did the DA know something, or didn’t want other parties to be implicated? Why is this so similar to the non prosecuting, and later missing, DA in the Jerry Sandusky case?

  1. An independent investigation notes that there were cob webs in the window that the supposed intruder used. Wouldn’t opening and climbing in and out of a window break these cobwebs?

there is also a lot of grissly details involving the case which could be considered evidence, I won’t post them here. But you’re free to look them up.

What do you consider evidence? I referenced several time tested cultural beliefs/writings, Contextual observations, and an independent article that relates to those writings and observations.

You remember when you took the SATs and there a english/context section and a math section? The English section isn’t to determine if you can read but to see if you can understand the story by the context clues.

If there is an illuminati/reptilian agenda, your very posts shows that they’re so successful because you choose to be forcefed information.

Did you read the articles? google the references? do so , and then lots discuss.

All of your “clues”, looked at individually, can be explained with mundane causes- and there’s no actual evidence for a non-mundane cause. There’s no reason to believe in something without good, strong evidence- much less the complete lack of evidence that points to the Reptilians and/or Illuminati.

Evidence for Reptilians and/or Illuminati could come in many forms- good evidence would be something material, like a Reptilian corpse, Illuminati meeting minutes, etc. This lack of evidence is built into most conspiracy theories- the Reptilians/Illuminati are much to smart to allow such evidence to get out… but without such evidence, there’s no way to distinguish such “theories” from the ravings of a mad man.

Sure, it’s conceivable that a secretive organization pulls the strings of major world leaders and world events- but the fact that there’s some mystery about how the world works doesn’t point to this particular conspiracy theory any more than it would point to a conspiracy of magic, invisible, sentient pencil erasers who can control your mind.

Well look at them individually and explain the mundane causes. And again what do you consider evidence? For now you’re just being dismissive - which is your right..BUTTTTT

Pot meet kettle. Kettle , pot. Who’s ready for the group think chamomile?

The real question is - if a reptilian corpse was found (much like the ginat bones in greece, minnesota, etc) would you believe that they were reptilian corpses? Or would you question the source of the various outlets who reported the story? If it was photoshopped etc. If you saw “illuminati meeting minutes” would you read them? or just think they were creative writing projects?

No one can make someone open their minds. That’s a personal choice.

Ok- I’ll look at them individually.

The Aztecs believed in crazy and incorrect things about how the universe works, just like the vast majority of human societies in history.

See explanation for #1.

If I parse this right, you’re saying “some people think there is an undiscovered planet”, and somehow this is a clue for the Illuminati (or another conspiracy). Ok, maybe there’s another planet (though we have no data to suggest this right now). So what?

There is crazy stuff on youtube.

Two possible explantions- the Queen of England abducted aboriginal children, or the “eyewitness” is lying/mistaken/crazy. Both explanations are mundane.

Let’s see, she could have been buried with some bulky objects with sentimental value; she could have asked for a roomy casket in her will; people could be lying or mistaken about the size of the casket; with time I could come up with dozens more possible mundane explanations for this. I think it’s reasonable to take these explanations and compare them to the “Queen Mother is a hideous Reptilian beast” explanation, and see which one is more reasonable and likely.

I would be skeptical, as you should be. One can be skeptical as well as open-minded. Show me the corpse- allow scientific analysis, and a proper judgment can be made. If you just show me a picture, how could I possibly know if it’s real rather than a hoax?

For example- even if aliens exist, and occasionally visit Earth, I would still expect the vast majority of UFO and alien encounter reports to be false- having been dreamed up by liars, crazy people, or just people who mistook what they saw. Human history, as well as my own experiences in dealing with people, reinforce one thing over and over again- people lie a lot, and people make lots and lots of mistakes.

Well if you’re just going to dismiss everything as "people believe in crazy shit’. Then I guess that’s a logical rebuttal…full of well researched counter arguements…obviously thought out. I can see you’ve put a lot of effort into drawing your conclusions.

The reference to the queen and the aborginal children, which relate to the dismissed writings/cultures, and the several scandals involving children – do not relate? are mundane? and the witnesses are lying/crazy/mistaken (which is typically what governements say when a witness pops up).

Well I guess we can agree to disagree. Nothing to see here.

Next questioner.

I didn’t dismiss anything- I just showed that the supposed clues you offered can have mundane explanations. You could be right- but why would I possibly accept your claims without good, solid evidence?

What? Did you read what I wrote? How does it point to Reptilians or the Illuminati?

A brick falls from a table. You didn’t see it- you only heard it fall, and when you looked, you see it lying on the ground next to the table. It’s possible an invisible angel pushed it off the table, but why would you ascribe anything other than a mundane explanation for it? And such for all of the “clues” you offered- when mundane explanations are possible, and there’s no evidence for a supernatural (or conspiracy-laden) explanation, then why would anyone believe otherwise?

Another example- 100 wandering salesmen offer a tonic that they claim is sure to cure all of your ails- fatigue, arthritis, diabetes, etc. It’s possible that one of the tonics actually has medicinal value. But all we’ve got to go by is what the salesman says. Why would anyone treat any of these tonics for sale as effective?

There are countless conspiracy theories without hard evidence, many of which logically conflict. What’s the point of treating any of them as truthful or revealing? Even if one or two are true, the vast majority were thought up by madmen, or charlatans, or the mistaken. Just like how every generation has people claiming the end of the world is coming (really- every single generation!). Maybe the world will end someday, but why would we treat our generation’s “The-End-Is-Nigh” claimants any different than all the rest?

I didn’t ask you to “accept my claims”. Get out of your defensive box. I provided you with information that you could, or could not, choose to look into. Well known information that people who believe in reptilians have researced.

You refused.

You counter argued the information provided by essentially saying I like to stay skeptical. You didn’t counter argue any of the points. You didn’t look at the videos and discuss the lighting, or how possible frequencies could have distorted the videos, or why there was a rash of reporters/tv personalities who apparently had strokes on camera and couldn’t speak during the span of a month. etc. etc .etc

If someone had video footage of the angel pushing it off the table, would that be evidence? What if it was posted to youtube? apparently you wouldn’t watch it.

Would it take it being shown on ABC news? main stream news post “ufo” footage often…

like pouring water into a well…

Good question.

As we can only speak for our generation. All I can say is that once you open your eyes you’ll see a lot of crazy $h*t.

What were/are your thoughts on the Norway Spiral?

All right- you missed all my points. There are too many extraordinary claims made for me to personally evaluate all of them. I looked at a few of yours, and they seemed no different then the other extraordinary claims that I’ve seen made in substance and evidence.

But I’ll look at another one- why don’t you give me the best one you’ve got, for the conspiracy theory you think is most likely- and I’ll take some time to evaluate it.

This is pretty much exactly what I said- lots of crazy shit, and lots of crazy people. Lots of liars, and lots of charlatans. And most of it is pretty truth-free.

I do not know what the prosecutor was thinking. I don’t know him. I will tell you there are plenty of times that my prosecutor does not want to go forward with a case. The level of proof needed for an arrest and/or indictment is probable cause. The prosecutor needs enough proof to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. And he only gets one shot at it. If he doesn’t think he will win the prosecutor will not go forward with the time and expense of a trial and blow any chance he has at a future guilty verdict. Most cases that a prosecutor decides not to go forward with do not have the notoriety of this case so you don’t hear about them.

You are taking anything that you think might be unusual and stringing them together just due to their unusualness. That is not an argument or a theory. Crops fail in Argentina. Red Tide in Australia. Jennifer Lawrence trips while getting her Oscar. They must all be related. Yadda yadda yadda Lizards. Life is chaos. Unusual things happen. Most of the time they can be explained. Sometimes we don’t have enough information to explain it. Strange occurances do not equal lizards. And neither do myths from primative people anthropormorphizing animals around them centuries ago.

I’m more of a political/spiritual theorist myself - for the record. But again, I must ask, if things are strange, the world is crazy, and you don’t know. Why just not say - “I don’t know”?

Especially if the “lizards” are unexplained documented ufos or a “super race” that has been talked about in several manuscripts over genrations across different cultures.

You can’t on one hand say there’s no way to tell anything for certain, and then on the other, say but I KNOW for certain that it’s not that.

If you don’t know. You don’t know. That’s just logic.