Ask the conspiracy theorist

Since you don’t believe in “lizards”, nothing. Now answer my question.

If he did believe in “lizards”, what would it mean?

And why are we speaking of “lizards” in “quotes”? :eek:

As usual your question is a non sequitur as a response to my comment which you quoted. As usual you attempt to ask questions about minor points while ignoring anything that might come close to your actual “theory” that lizards run the world.

I have no idea what your question means and I’m sure you have in your mind some sort of A-ha moment. The politics of the Soviet Union were much different under Krushchev and Stalin. Stalin killed everyone he perceived as a threat. And their families. And their dogs. Things had changed by the 60s. But still no lizards to be found.

Those are actually hairy lizards, a common mistake.

So Stalin was anti-Lizard? How is that possible? They run everything!

It would mean that it would be more than an “intellectual excerise”.

The same reason I put intellectual exercise in quotes in this post.

Koz – you are clearly implying that because Bush did not hand over evidence of Al Qaida’s role in the 9/11 attacks, that Bush actually had no such evidence. But Khalid Shaikh Mohammed has repeatedly claimed responsibility for them.

Link.

Why is it that self-described conspiracy theorists are the only ones who dispute Al Qaida’s responsibility for the attack on the United States?

Ok.

Yeah, there was the Cuban Missile Crisis.

Yes, that’s what I’m implying.

And Osama bin Laden initially denied responsibility for them.

Because just as you claim

there was no reason to trust George W. Bush.
Especially in light of Iraq.

But you said that Bin Laden denied the attacks. You’re implying that Bin Laden is more trustworthy than Bush, KSM, the 9-11 Commission, Eliza Manningham-Buller, and a kajillion other people. Is that what you really think, and what you really think we should believe?

Another non sequitur. The Mets also won the World Series in 1969. Still no Lizards. Your theory is that Lizards run the world. Everything else you spout is just trivia or smoke and mirrors. How about one shred of proof that lizards are running the world? No intellectual exercise. No cite without explaination. Just one simple piece of evidence that your ultimate theory is true.

Afghanistan a brief history since you obviously Kozmik have not been paying attention.

1979 the Soviet Union invades to support their puppet regime that is having trouble hanging on to power, the opposition forces form a loose coalition of various ethnic, tribal, religious and more secular groups. Foreign fighters come to join in the fight after Jihad is declared against the Soviets, at some point in the early eighties this includes OBL. The Mujhadeen(sp?) turn out to be really tough fighters so the US decides to give them arms because my enemies enemy is my friend. The weapons transfers are done mostly through Pakistan and their ISI. In the beginning the the weapons are small arms and in small amounts, IIRC 10-20 million USD worth in 80-81, but rise to about 20billion worth by 88-89 and including Man-Pads and other advanced weapons. The Soviet Union leaves Afghanistan in 89 with huge casualties, having spent billions of rubles and nothing to show for it, if this didn’t help cause the collapse of the USSR it surely had an adverse effect on it. US foreign policy largely forgets that Afghanistan exists because ya know job done. So what we have now is a heavily armed country that explodes into massive tribal, clan,ethnic and religious violence with most of the players being veterans of the US backed Soviet war.

These fighters are in your “database” Koz but they are on all sides and Al-Queda is not really a player yet.

The civil war devolves into two major players. The Taliban, religious and dominated by Pashtuns, from the south and west and the Northern Alliance which is more secular and Tajik and other ethnicities mostly from the north. The Taliban lets AQ stay because the bring fighters and money also they share a similar religious view.

The US starts to realize that there is a real problem with extremists and even tries to kill OBL with cruise missiles in 96 IIR the date correctly, OBL gets smart and drops the sat phone and goes into hiding AQ grows, que 2001

Al-Queda means “the base” in Arabic(sorta), some of it’s members in Afghanistan were on the database you mention, but so were almost every single player in the Afghan civil war including Akmhed Shah Massoud the leader of the Northern Alliance.

**KOZ **there is no connection between the “database” and “the base”

Thus endeth the history lesson you tin foil hat wearing twit

Capt

Not the hairy ones. They’re like the nerds of the lizard realm.

As long as there is a reasonable explanation.

I said that Bin Laden initally denied responsibility for the attacks.

Bin Laden initally denied responsibility for the attacks and KSM repeatedly claimed responsibility for the attacks. Who to believe, bin Laden or KSM? Bush refused to provide evidence. As if he ever had any evidence. The 9/11 Commission? The evidence that Bush supposedly had was not in the 9/11 Commission Report as far as I know and it is still classifed if it even exists. Eliza Manningham-Buller made a good argument. Manningham-Buller argued that the 9/11 attacks were “a crime, not an act of war”. Robin Cook made another good argument. Cook argued that al-Qaeda and Bin Laden were “a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies”, and that “Al-Qaida, literally ‘the database’, was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians.”

Interesting that the Brits seem to be more trustworthy or at least more forthcoming.

No.

No.

So the War on Terror and the Cold War is not evidence enough. Fine. The New World Order will be all the proof you will ever need.

The Cold War? History.
The War on Terror? Current events.
The New World Order? The shape of things to come.

You disagree with the former British Foreign Secretary. Fine. Why didn’t you just say so?

The lizard people are real. I jack off to that lizard porn regularly. That’s the ultimate crux of their achievements; the world domination thing is just a side hobby of theirs.

Still no Lizards.

This is truly fascinating.
How many shape-shifting lizard people are there on the planet right now?
What do thy call themselves? Surely not ‘lizard people’.
When did they arrive? Is their transport vehicle in Earth orbit or did it return to their home system? Alternatively, it could be in orbit around Saturn or Jupiter and be very difficult to detect.

What are their objectives? It appears from the assertions that Kosmik has presented that these folks are playing both ends against the middle. Is this to subjugate the people of Earth? They came here for slave labor? Is it because our women are that attractive? Is it our day-time television programming that is so compelling?

So many questions have been left unanswered.

I’m intrigued by the idea that the War on Terror and the Cold War are evidence for the lizard people.

Does that mean the man on the sidewalk ranting about how the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand is evidence for gray aliens from Io was actually on to something? Are all major world events evidence for some previously-assumed-to-be fantastical creatures? Will the lizard people reveal themselves?

Basically, how does one separate “truthful” statements like “the Cold War is proof of the lizard people” from crazy statements like “the Mongol invasion of Europe is all the proof you need for intelligent unicorns”?

Nope I don’t disagree with the former BFS at all, I am pointing out that you are taking small parts of a single speech out of context and blowing them up into something they are clearly not, in complete ignorance of history or facts.

Capt