Plus some of unspecified gender too. 
Difference might be that having to stay in a room indefinitely (without paying extra) is actually more of a reward than a punishment;)…depending on the girl that is:eek:
I’m sure there are (and not just ‘working people’ of different/unclear genders). I was just saying that a single Dutch man going to Thailand or Brazil would make me have assumptions about his motives. Somebody going to Russia, Prague, Poland, etc. would not lead me to making such assumptions.
Not unless you bring something yourself. In general all oral sex is without condom (I don’t even know the English name for the protection you can use during cunnilingus, and am quite sure the girls don’t carry it with them) in the clubs.
I’ve never seen this. They probably wouldn’t have a room, let alone a bed, large enough to accomodate 120 girls and 1 bear:p. If anything like this would happen in the smaller clubs - ie a group of men bogarting all the girls - I’m sure the management would do something about it. Don’t know how or what, but something will happen. I read about something like this happening in a club recently. A few guys were buying a lot of champagne (the girls get a cut of the champagne price) for two of the more popular girls in this relatively small place. Some of the regulars were complaining online (had also done so in the club) and the management - which also posts on the forum occasionally - posted saying they couldn’t do anything about it, since it was just two girls and there were enough others. The disappointed bears eventually understood that the girls prefered to make money by having some champagne and that the club was right in there being enough other girls.
Dental dam, FYI.
Indeed I might.
A year or so ago, I was in one of those countries for a friend’s weding. This guy I know who spent some time there simply could not wrap his mind around the fact that I was down there, with my girlfriend, following the specific itinerary for a destination weding. He was all like “you stayed in the wrong place”, " you went to the wrong clubs". It’s like “sorry dude. The bride didn’t want to have her reception in a whorehouse.”
hahahahahaha I can’t even imagine someone trying to give a chick head using one of those things.
Very classy:dubious:. I assume you know where babies come from, otherwise you can google. Twenty year olds girls are perfectly capable to have sex a few times a day, without their lady bits being mauled beyond recognition.
In all seriousness it happens far more often that a girl is too tight, regardless of the amount of lube she uses (even if they have been working for a couple of years). I’ve had a number of sessions were we stopped having sex because it was uncomfortable for the girl, and I don’t think I’m exceptionally big in that area (allthough the girls sometimes claim I am; to quote Meatloaf: I bet you say that to all the boys). The times where I offered to stop myself, when I saw she was uncomfortable, the girls really went all out to make it up to me with the other things we did… All this leads to some funny discussions afterwards, a few girls have mentioned they don’t understand why the guys are so hung up on their size, since most girls prefer average dicks over large ones any day:p.
I forgot to answer the first (doable) part of your question;). Threesomes are very common and I think foursomes happen regularly as well (either 3 girls on 1 bear, or 2 on 2). What threesomes is concerned prices can run up pretty quickly, you essentially still pay each girl 50 euros for half an hour, and if they throw in a bit of a girl on girl show, this is 50 extra again (just the once I believe, so not 50 each). If you want to end with a come in mouth, there is good chance they might ‘share’ so you have to pay both.
Some girls even hunt in pairs and immediately offer a threesome, if you show interest in only one of the girls the other will quickly make herself scarce. If you go for a threesome the advise is usually to take your time to go to a girl you know (and have good experience with) and ask her to recommend a third party. You can also ask her if she’s ever been in a threesome with a particular other girl, her reaction will usually tell you if it is a good idea. You should never just pick two girls that don’t know each other. In one of the clubs there is a pair of identical twins working and a threesome with them is suposed to be pretty amazing; even though they are leggy blonds, I’m kind of tempted to try it sometime.
This happens sometimes, but usually with guys that are on the way of becoming a ‘I fell in love with prostitute and lost everything I had’ story. It is mostly to make sure she isn’t going to the room with anyone else (which can be frustrating for other bears). Often if you spend long periods of time with a girl in the room, she wil spend time with you outside the room as well (especially if there is a click), so paying for company during dinner isn’t really needed.
Yep, a few times actually. But it were never girls I had spoken to. I recognized one girl from a different club and when she came up to me I asked her about it. It wasn’t the best opening, since she was kicked out in the other club and from her attitude during the rest of the conversation I can see why. For some reason I’m really good at remembering these kind of things, one time I was at a club with another bear who goes to clubs a lot more than I do and pointed out two girls I remembered from other clubs (both of which I had visited only once) and his reaction was: ‘wow you’re right, I hadn’t noticed and I go to that club at least twice a month!’.
The funny thing is, after this I went to google translate and the translation for the Dutch beflapje (pussy eating cloth) really is Dental dam!. But yeah, I agree with clockwork, with a thing like that you could just as well lick her panties. No point in eating a girl out without the slight metallic taste:cool:.
I’ll now bore you with some of the promised anecdotes, but the mod-ruling means I won’t go into any lurid details (which is probably good as I’m not much of writer). I’ll start with some of my best ‘sessions’ and leave the funny stories for next time. It is probably indictive for the saunaclubs that I pretty quickly decided I need tomention at least 4 sessions to answer this question properly. Unlike the windows where every time you go you pretty much follow the same path, sessions can go in a variety of directions in the clubs (in my case, this usually depends on the girl).
The first one that comes to mind was with a girl I mentioned earlier (the one who fled the annoying bears). As I said, she just came up to me, kissed me, and aksed me to play along. This girl wasn’t my type at all, but I quickly found out she was a lot of fun and she spoke English very well. In the end the whole ‘date’ lasted more than 2 hours and if it hadn’t been for the club closing, it might have lasted longer. After joining me she mentioned how fed up she was with the other bears and said she was going to get us some beers. So we spent a good chunk of time sharing a few beers - later she drank some sekt as well - and talking about annoying bears and some other things the girls encounter (really learned a lot here). Even though this club is known for its short conversations before being asked to the room, it took more than an hour before we got that far. By this time the drinks were having some effect – we weren’t drunk, but also not in any state to operate heavy machinery – and we had a lot of fun in the room. Just with a lot of joking, chasing each other through the room, many more position/activity switches than you normally have; just a laugh really. Afterwards we hung out a bit and she told me a lot more stories - some of which, I later found out, she really wasn’t supposed to – showed me pictures of her pets and from her facebook, while we finished the half empty beers we had taken to the room. At one point there was some pretty hard knocking on the door because the club was already closed, so we quickly handled all formalities and said goodbye. Really a fun experience this.
The second I have to mention was during one of my first visits (first Oase visit). What physical satisfaction is concerned, it was the best I ever had. The girl was very pretty, but somehow there always was some distance. There was no real cuddling and we quickly developed a dynamic where she was the boss and was jokingly putting me down whenever I said anything the she found corny (which happens a lot:D). So it wasn’t really intimate all things considered. After the foreplay she said something like: ‘you just lie on your back and let me take care of this’; I didn’t really move for the rest of the session. Somehow she was precisely attuned to what I was feeling and it was just 20 minutes off bliss, where I spend a good deal of time just laughing out loud because I couldn’t believe how good it felt (with her just shaking her head with a smug little smile on her lips). At one point she whispered in my ear: ‘I’m going to make you come now ok’, I just nodded and less them a minute later it was done. It seemed she knew me better than I know myself.
The next experience was almost the exact opposite. It was with a cute girl that never smiles in the club, this always gives you doubts about her attitude. I was talking with another bear when she put her towel on my lap and took a seat, she joined the conversation and started cuddling me up. A few minutes later the other bear was mostly talking to himself and I let myself be overwhelmed and taken to a room (the other bear later told me he was convinced I had fallen in her trap and that it would be a big dissapointment). In the room we just spend the entire time cuddling and kissing, I don’t think she ever let me get farther than 15 cm away from her. It can really get to you when a girl is gazing in you eyes from a few centimeters distance. I don’t remember that many particularities about the sex itself (which probably means it wasn’t that good), but when we had to leave she almost wouldn’t let me go. From then on she was smiling every time I saw her and each time we ran into each other she would give me a quick hug or just grab my hand for a quick squeeze. This girl offered the full illusion of really wanting to be with me (which, luckily, is something I really only realized afterwards).
The last experience is my favorite of all, for the simple reason that it was with the prettiest girl I’ve met in the clubs. She was also very sweet, enthousiastic and smiled a lot. The sex itself was not that good, somehow I think the physical chemistry wasn’t what it could have been. But I really didn’t care when she was smiling at me, and the kissing made up a lot. She also seemed genuinly happy when I reacted positively to her advances (probably because she was having a very slow day; I was both her first and second customer of the day). This reaction was even stronger when were just lying a bit and I first declined her offer to stay longer, but immediately added she should look me up in an hour or two. As I said uptread, being with a happy, pretty girl is what I like most.
I’ll post the funny stories next time…which are mostly to my own detriment now I think of it:dubious:, oh well:)
Thanks for your replies. I was just wondering because contraceptives aren’t 100% effective.
Do the girls enjoy the sex or pretend to? In the book “Invisible Trade” it said the main difference you get for higher prices is the woman pretends more and acts like you’re really good, while at lower prices they don’t care.
Kissing? I thought that was the big NO when it came to prostitutes?
You mean Pretty Woman got something factually wrong about prostitutes? 
I think it depends. None (well 99%) of the girls are there because they ‘like sex’, they’re there to make money. Some girls like sex as well, so that can be a bonus. That doesn’t mean they can’t enjoy themselves. For instance, I’m quite sure the girl from my first anecdote had a good time as well. It probably depends on her mood, the guy and the sex itself. I guess girls are more likely to enjoy themselves with regulars who they know pretty well, than with some random schmuck they just met.
I once read a blog from a Dutch prostitute (not in the clubs) who wrote it differs from day to day. Some days she is horny as hell and can’t wait fot the next customer to arrive, no matter what he looks like or how he is in bed. While other days she doesn’t feel up to it at all and she can’t wait for the day to be over, no matter how good looking or good in bed the guys are. She writes that it is her job to make sure clients leave happy on the crappy days as well.
You might be right about the price influencing how much the girls act, but in the clubs most girls will really try to win you over. The amount of girls who weren’t smiling the whole time (or showing enthousiasm for going to a room) can be counted on one hand. And I really wouldn’t call 50 euros expensive. The girls at the windows were generally more in the ‘don’t care’ corner, but even there some girls really seem to enjoy themselves (probably an act). I don’t really care to have the idea that I’m ‘good’ or anything and would much rather have a girl that doesn’t pretend to have her world rocked. There has been one girl that was really vocal during the sex and all I thought was: ‘could you please shut the hell up!’. Most girls are pretty silent with the occasional soft moan or squeeze with her hand, this could off course also be an act, but one I enjoy a lot more than someone who is trying to make me feel like I’m the best lover in the world.
In this business, if you’re willing to pay someone is willing to do it. In some places kissing isn’t common - like the windows - but if you look hard enough you’ll find girls who will do it for some extra pay. In the clubs kissing is part of the standard package, allthough some girls don’t do this. For me, and many other bears, the kissing is one of the main reasons to go to these clubs, what can I say? I like kissing.
Kissing is a broad concept though, some girls just pout there lips and flick their tongue against yours…in these cases they could have just said they don’t like to kiss. It is also a misunderstanding with some girls that tongue is always needed, I’ve been with a few very good kissers that didn’t like to french kiss and it was very good. Most girls just kiss you like you would expect, a bit of making out before you get to the sex. Occasionally you get a girl who is an exceptional (passionate, with a lot of variation) kisser and you almost forget to get to the other stuff.
It is definitely one of the more intimate things for the girls (together with fingering…I guess I can use that word since I never claimed to love these girls…otherwise manual stimulation), that’s why some won’t do it. When I think about it, it is funny who intimacy levels decrease the further you get on the ‘normal order’ of sexual acts (the baseball analogy if you will). Blowjobs and sex are standard and not all intimate, while kissing, fingering and even just holding hands (I know, it is getting a bit sweet now) are far more intimate.
I can’t imagine it either, but they always always always get mentioned in safe sex lectures and whatnot. I don’t know anyone who has personally used one. There’s probably an entire fetish community about them; rule 34 and all.
I’m definitely calling them “pussy eating cloths” from here on out, though.
Condoms are henceforth known as “penis sheaths.”
Well, then what am I supposed to call my penis sheath?
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