If you look carefully at the scene where Boomer guides the raptor into the basestar, you can see the wall begin to open as the camera cuts away.
I think it’s been established that Cylons, at least the humenlike ones, need to beathe just like we do. Otherwise, throwing Leobdon out the airlock wouldn’t have worried him much.
Well, it would be kinda cold.
And those bodily fluids boiling away might be unpleasant. 
Okay, maybe the Basestar Boomers *were * nekkid below the camera range. Anybody got a good screen shot they can link to so we can inspect it? Strictly for plot analysis purposes, of course.
I’m trying to figure out what the Cylons know and what they don’t, and maybe I’m confused about that, too. C-B knew a lot about Helo, but they’d spent 2 months together and some time before that as well, so maybe she knew about him and history already. She did know about the Arrow story, but why was she guiding him to the museum unless it was to hand him over to Starbuck to save the father of her unborn child (cue the courtroom scene from “Chicago”)? The Arrow is useless for finding Earth unless it goes to Kobol, and nobody on Caprica knew that Kobol even existed much less where it was. Helo should have been looking for a ship he could hijack, per the previous plan - why would he believe anything C-B says, much less follow her?
How did C-6 know who Starbuck was - from a download of G-B’s thoughts via the CyloNet? Did she know Starbuck was coming to the Museum, or just hide her surprise well? If she knew, how - a subspace transmission from a still-unfound bug on Galactica, or perhaps from the still-sleeper-agent Cylon named Roslin, or maybe Tigh told “Ellen” in bed? And if C-6 is physiologically human (except for the fluorescent spine thing), how could she kick Starbuck’s ass so easily?
If “all of this has happened before”, can’t we go find the tapes of the last time somewhere instead of waiting until July?
We don’t know for sure that C-Six and G-Six aren’t different manifestations of the same Six.
Tapes of the last time. But I’m hoping that this time will be better.
Two comments on Boomer shooting Adama:
It looked like the shots were to the abdomen, not the chest. It’s feasible for him to survive, especially given the medical facilities you’d expect in a Battlestar.
Why does no one on the bridge try to stop the bleeding? The only person who does anything worthwhile is Gaeta, calling for a medic. We have Tigh holding his belly (but not over the bullet holes), Lee holding his head and crying, and the commo tech who’s name escapes me holding his hand and crying. If you actually care for the guy, how about doing something useful, like taking off your shirt, holding it against the wound, and applying direct pressure? I know it’s a huge shock and all, but you’d think one of the soldiers on the bridge would have remembered their first aid training.
That scene was in extreme slo-mo, including Apollo’s “No-o-o-o” in a deep bass Doppler voice. Prolly only about a second IRL. Give 'em a break.
The black female lieutenant who’d been hooking up with Billy is Duallo, aka Dee. Speaking of Billy, how frustrated must he feel? Here he is, Chief of Staff to the President of All Known Humanity, just a couple of years out of the University of Caprica Young Republicans Club, and he can’t gloat about it! They’re all dead!
[quote=BrianMelendez}We don’t know for sure that C-Six and G-Six aren’t different manifestations of the same Six.[/quote]
Whether they are or not, there’s still the communications issue. How would one know what the other does unless the CyloNet goes via subspace?
Do ships have an FTL method of communication?
I have no problem with any of the Cylons knowing about Galactica and crew, and there isn’t any reason why they shouldn’t. In the miniseries, a Cylon was the P.R. officer on Galactica. They stranded him on Ragnar and he was rescued by Cylons. Anything he knew of Galactica, the other Cylons could know very easily.
The Six that battled Starbuck did look kind of pissed, but did she actually say anything like “…And THIS is for sleeping with my BOYFRIEND” whack? Unless I missed something, the ambiguity is still intact as to whether Balthar’s Six has any influence on the outside world. (As discussed in previous threads, there is an alternate explanation for every event which Bathar’s brain-Six either predicted or seemed to influence, including Six Degrees of Separation.)
And let’s not forget that, before the Cylon attack, the very first Six that we saw had used Baltar for access to the defense mainframe. Presumably the Cylons downloaded ship rosters and personnel files too.
Not to mention they have had free run of the entire planet. I’m assuming defense computers/records would have been in secure locations and safe from the initial attack. I was under the impression they didn’t need to phyically destroy them since they had planted a virus to enable them to be controlled.
They haven’t said so explicitly, but they must. There was a scene in the miniseries where they were having a real-time conversation at quite a distance. When Adama sends the message “I’m taking command, rendezvous here,” and the President countermands him, he picks up the phone and speaks directly to them. Then the Cylons appear at the President’s position and release their nukes, and Adama’s shouting into the phone, “Get out of there!” The fact that this whole exchange happened without delays means that if they were using sublight communications (i.e. radio), they couldn’t have been farther apart than, say, half the distance between Earth and the Moon, which is pretty silly. So according to the plot, they must have FTL communication of some sort, but they haven’t acknowledged or described it. I suspect they knew it was a storytelling fudge, but they slipped it through and hoped nobody would notice.
Yeah, I’m one o’ those damn obsessive detail-conscious science fiction fans. 
I tend to think they don’t. Cervaise has a point, there was no delay when Adama was speaking with Apollo in the miniseries, but Adama did ask first, “is Apollo in communication range?” So maybe they actually were pretty close, relatively speaking. We already know that all the 12 colonies were in the same system, so it’s possible they weren’t that far from each other. It’s probable though, that Moore figured we’d forgive the lack of any delay.
Also, whenever a Raptor jumps ahead of the fleet, they always have to jump back in order to report. Seems like no FTL comms.
One problem though, is when the “wounded bird” Raider was circling the fleet, Tigh said “it’s probably reporting our position right now, prepare to jump!” So maybe the Cylons have FTL comms, or Tigh just works on the assumption they might, based on events during “33.”
Regarding communication among the human Cylons, my sorta kinda theory is they can wirelessly network with members of their own model, when they’re within a certain range. This would explain how the Boomers were able to share knowledge of recent events on Caprica at the beginning of the series. It would also explain perhaps why Leoben wasn’t absolutely sure his soul would be able to make it all the way back to God/new body when he died. It also explains why Caprica Boomer had to physically report to the overseers, since they aren’t her model, they can’t “listen in.” However, it doesn’t explain why they didn’t just have another Boomer nearby to monitor things.
Didn’t Caprica-Boomer start to try to explain that “we’re all Sharon”, before Helo shut her up? Also, any significance to the fact that while the physical Six appeared on Galactica, Baltar’s virtual Six vanished?
We do? From where?
I’ve heard this mentioned but I think it would be pretty damn hard to have 12 inhabitable planets in one system.
If they have said this, this would be a big flaw in their writing.
Ok…
Did anyone else notice that the Caprica 6 wore black and the Kobol 6 wore white? Maybe I’ve been reading too many Lost threads but that struck me. I think the white dress was supposed to symbolize and angel. She was talking about being the agent of God.
Also, Caprica Boomer would have to have known everything Galactica Boomer knew at least up until she left Helo on Caprica. They had been partners. I could just see them sitting there one night…
Helo: Hey Boomer, remember when Starbuck pulled 4 full pyramids in one game?
Boomer: Uh… Yea…
Helo: No wait, it was only three, she didn’t get that last one
Boomer: Um… Yea…
It’s mentioned in one of the podcasts. Not sure which episode.
They basically said “yeah, it’s implausible that all 12 colonies are in one system, but we kept it in as an homage to the original series.”
A flaw it may be, but an intentional flaw.
Actually, as long as they tell an interesting story with interesting characters, I couldn’t care less about the mechanics of how technology works on the show.
12 colonies in one system isn’t that improbable, if you include terraformed large moons in the count. An Earth-Moon binary could be counted as two colonies if settled by different cultures or races from the original flight from Kobol.
I think the first place I read about it was one of Ron Moore’s blogs on the official site, but I don’t have a cite for you.
As I recall, he said it was hokey to have them all in one system, but the original fans might object if he changed it. Which I think is a load of BS. The fans would have been collectively relieved if he had changed it. What might upset the original fans would be doing something like, I dunno, making Starbuck a woman?
My logic on finding it odd regards the ships. Seems like a whole lot of ships with FTL drives.
“Ah, but even if they’re all in the same system it’s a long trip between colonies!” you point out.
Sure, but in that case why did they have so many ships WITHOUT the FTL drives?
Either it’s a short trip between colonies or a long one…
It’s a logical inconsistency that bugs me, but not really. I love the show, so who cares? I just hope they had themselves a little writer’s bible about how everything works. I don’t want to hear someone say “We can’t reach Galactica!” while their HUD says “Contacting Galactica”. Which is what we saw in Wing Commander…
Does anyone think that, maybe, The Thing In The Crib might not be what we think it is? Fact of that matter is that it was a very, very, very long and elaborate reveal to just show a glowing crib thing.
-Joe
I seem to recall, back when the two BS Galactica 2-hour pilot movies were the only instances of *BS Galactica in existence, reading that the 12 colonies were spread out over 3 star systems, 4 colony worlds to a system.