Battlestar Galactica (1/21/07)

The unknown Cylon with the really Bright Whites (Clorox with bleach) could be:

-Baltar
-The Hybrid
-someone else

thoughts?

Why does this keep coming up? Adama fought in the first Cylon war. He can’t be a Cylon. And Adama Jr. is obviously his son.

Never mind the fact that Boomer shot him.

I was thinking it might be Roslyn. Or Tigh.

And what’s with the switch in attitude regarding the “final five” - first it was “We don’t speak of them,”, and now they’re revered?

It keeps coming up because Leoben told the same to Laura before she spaced him. Yeah, he’s a liar and a nutjob, but it’s fun for half-joking speculation.

I don’t think it’s unusual at all that someone wouldn’t speak to an outsider about some revered part of their religion/society.

If that happens, I’m hunting Ron Moore down and putting a cigarette in his scotch!

Why was Baltar in a body bag if he wasn’t dead?

What’s going on with Boomer that she’s suddenly so angry and wants to snap the baby’s neck? Speaking of Boomer, Six snapping her neck really took me by surprise. I thought Six was making sure Boomer was okay and… SNAP!

So turning off the power to the jacuzi goo bath kills a reincarnated cylon?

My guess for the final five that D’Anna saw is Roslyn (though the cancer thing makes that suspect). I guess it could be Starbuck (though that would suck), but we haven’t seen any interaction between D’Anna and Starbuck. D’Anna’s apology leads me to believe it’s someone she’s dealt with before and been hostile to. It can’t be Tigh. D’Anna kept saying how “beautiful” the final five were. I love Tigh’s character–but no amount of bleach will make him beautiful!

Thanks, Mactech.
So Six whacked the Chief’s girlfriend, but she will reincarnate.
Darn confusing, since the other Sharon apologized to Chief for being with Helo, but she was really a different Sharon…

Re your name…you don’t really have to work on those things, do you? :slight_smile:

I’ll help you, but I quit smoking.
We’ll whizz in it.

Strong episode. Raised more questions than it answered, but gave us some good combat scenes, which have been lacking recently.

Sadly, banging Xenabot’s box appears to be somewhat less exciting in the future.

D should just pull the trigger and leave Lee. She deserves better than she’s getting from him.

How many times can somebody play the “steal a captured Raptor to escape the Baseship” card? You’d think an extra Raptor attempting to land would have generated a little interest on the bridge…

Agree the ending seemed rushed. Everything I’ve seen on spoilersites indicates that major shakeups are incoming. Right now, there is no 4th season promised. We may be seeing a bit of **Babylon 5 ** Syndrome, where an uncertain future forces an accelerated pace. On the optimistic side, there are rumors that if a 4th Season is ordered, there will also be a movie made between Seasons 3 and 4…

They put Baltar into a body bag so they could get him onto Galactica without everyone in the landing bay recognizing him… and then immediately lynching him. (not that anybody other than Lee would probably have objected to that outcome)

I’m hoping that the Final Five aren’t the reimaged White Ships of Light people. Because Moore said again and again that he was done reimaging stuff. And that he wasn’t going to touch the White Ships of Light storyline.

Because if it is that particular reimaging, I fear that flying time-traveling motorcycles and super space kids playing Little League on Earth won’t be too far behind…

We’ll piss in his expensive scotch.
He reads this shit.
:slight_smile:

Yeah, because he’s sooooooooo beautiful. :smiley:

Yep, been a Mac user since '84, repairing them for the last 10 years or so

as far as the boxing of D’anna, i thought they missed an opportunity to make the boxing seem more final by having the Goocuzis shut down row by row, sequentially

yes the “i’m sorry” remark means the Mystery Toaster that D’anna (why do i always want to type “Deanna” there, i’m sensing much confusion, captain…) saw had to have been someone she was hostile to

hmm, Roslyn is a possibility, Starbuck, vaguely, making it Baltar would be too easy and too much of a cop-out

hey, how about Blanders, she did try to knock him out with a chunk of the street back on Caprica…
“Bad Toaster…hit Blanders…with street!” (good luck figuring out that paraphrased obscure quote :wink: )

Making Blanders (name sounds remarkably like “blender”, another appliance, or “Bender” a known antisocial robot with the desire to Kill All Humans…) a Toaster gives TPTB another way to mind-frell…err, sorry, make that mind frak Kara…

It’s totally Anders. Totally. Starbuck is the prophet and Anders is there to help her along. Or keep an eye on her. Or distract her from her prophetic whatevers. It’s Anders.

Survivor count: 41, 401

Missed that during the first showing, as was also watching the end of the Colts/Pats game.

One of the best episodes of the series, I think.

I’ll miss Xenabot, but I’m sure someday they’ll reinstate her model when they realize they need the information she has about The Five.

The Dualla/Apollo/Starbuck/Anders quadrangle was handled well. Still no easy resolution there.

I laughed maniacally when Baltar was whacked by the Chief. I like Baltar best when he is among the humans–I didn’t find him very interesting while he was with the Cylons.

Boomer’s sudden threat against the baby did seem strange, but maybe it’s just further proof that that individual Sharon is bonkers.

So the Six that’s on Galactica now is Caprica Six, right? I wonder what will happen with her. I wonder if she knows that Baltar is on board also.

Wild speculation on rewatching:

Was Baltar’s prayer answered? He said something like “God, let me know the truth before I die”. Almost immediately, Chief says “Welcome home, Mr. President” right before knocking him out. That could imply that Baltar is not a Cylon. Aslo have a feeling that the one of the Final Five that Xenabot apologized to was a woman. Something about the way she reached for the arm right before Baltar snapped her out of it…

I’m just thankful they were able to escape the star going nova.

Whew. I was worried there for a picosecond.

Two things that bugged me in an generally good episode:
(1) Are toasters once again nearly immune to bullets? They seem to usually be, except for when they were all lined up to massacre a bunch of prisoners on New Caprica, when guys with machine guns blew them apart.

(2) I just can’t take seriously the idea that the cylons themselves can’t tell whether Baltar is a cylon.

Wow. Athena’s escape from the basestar with her baby was so… convenient. I thought her escape was going to one of the main focuses of the entire episode. I guess not…

I hope we don’t see any more HUGE CONFRONTATIONS leading up to a cliffhanger, which are then resolved to… absolutely nothing.

Overall, I’d have to give this episode a solid “Meh”. Sure, it sets up a lot, but it seems that, other than the firefight, most of the threads to the plot were just given a scene or two. Dualla is ordered after Starbuck, then she finds her, then they fly away. Woo. Athena gets herself resurrected, she finds her baby, and then she escapes with Six’s help. The Chief struggles with the Temple, he misses his chance to blow it, and then he pistol whips Baltar. Etc… It seems like every plot element is rushed through exactly three scenes, and it made for bad pacing throughout the episode. It seems like there’s enough here for two or three episodes…

The aforementioned “Babylon 5 syndrome” makes sense here, sadly.

Here’s how I thought of it (warning: fanwankery ahead):

We’ve seen before that normal bullets don’t do much to a toaster, but explosive bullets would. Now, in this episode, you don’t see any cylon go down from a few hits. Only concentrated fire from several angles had much of an effect, and even then it only sort of chipped away at them. And even then, in this episode those cylons were only finished off by grenades and such. Basically, large volumes of normal bullets only keep a toaster pinned and unable to fight back easily.

I agree - that should have been cut down because the ending was WAY too rushed - I assume that everything wasn’t easy (escaping the BaseStar, getting some crews under fire from the planet, Dee piloting a ship)…but I wouldn’t know because we didn’t see or hear anything about it.

Also, I hope that Lee’s grasp of spacefight tactics is better than his grasp of ground tactics. His “let’s put all our guys crouched within about a meter of each other” just doesn’t seem like the most brilliant move ever.

However, I do like that the Metalbags actually appear to be as tough as you’d expect. What, four guys firing bursts into the things and they’re just plain not killing them…

I’d like to know where you get this from. D’Anna’s “you!” means it could be anyone - however, if the writers are playing fair, that ‘anyone’ is someone we’ve already met.

To prevent a lynching, would be my guess.

Ever dealt with a crying baby who won’t STFU? It’s a natural urge, trust me. :slight_smile:

-Joe, not qualified to work in daycare

At first I thought Starbuck was one of the five “toaters to be named later”. (I’m thinking of this particular plot device like a mid-season trade in baseball.) But that doesn’t make sense. Maybe it’s the priestess that D’Anna spoke with on New Caprica.

As a minor hijack, my brother-in-law owns the webhost company that hosts Trica Helfer’s website. He now refers to himself as the ‘Toaster Hoster’. This is the only place where I could share that joke.