Battlestar Galactica (1/21/07)

Cafe Society
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[QUOTE=Merijeek]

Ever dealt with a crying baby who won’t STFU? It’s a natural urge, trust me. :slight_smile:

-Joe, not qualified to work in daycare
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For “boomer” that baby represents everything she lost (and wanted) with the chief…

As far as “you”… my guess is Starbuck… based on other spoilers and assumptions made recently… as well as the “you’re the chosen one”… now that she has bad hands, maybe she’ll start the heavy breathing…

don’t think Doc Cottle is going to be happy to see that baby again…

and what the frak, how did brother caville end up on the planet with D’anna and Baltar…he was not mentioned as being wiht them on the raider.

I like that D’anna was boxed by pulling the USB drive from it’s socket…

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]
Also, I hope that Lee’s grasp of spacefight tactics is better than his grasp of ground tactics. His “let’s put all our guys crouched within about a meter of each other” just doesn’t seem like the most brilliant move ever.
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Lee’s tactics were absolutely brilliant compared to the Cylon plan: “leave all our guys with guns behind while we enter the temple that our enemies are guarding and have wired to explode”. Yeah, brilliant.

Also, implausible. The Colonials withdrew because they were getting pasted by the Centurions, and not doing much in return. Yet, the Centurions did not continue their pursuit to the temple? where the other Cylons were, undefended? My suspenders-of-disbelief were not designed to handle that much of a load, folks.

[QUOTE=Merijeek]
I’d like to know where you get this from. D’Anna’s “you!” means it could be anyone - however, if the writers are playing fair, that ‘anyone’ is someone we’ve already met.
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It’s a suggestion made by Leoben to Laura, just before she spaced him. Granted, we know that Leoben is a lying whackjob, but… if the writers are playing fair, the person that D’Anna recognized has to be a major character.

That’s probably Adama, Tigh (unlikely), Roslyn, Apollo, Starbuck, or Baltar. Anders is too much of a side character, as are Tyrol and Zarek. (although Zarek as one of the Five would be cool.) Hope it’s not Baltar.

What would really be nice were if the last of the Final Five were… another Cylon. Like, a Six, or a Sharon.

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[QUOTE=Lightray]
Lee’s tactics were absolutely brilliant compared to the Cylon plan: “leave all our guys with guns behind while we enter the temple that our enemies are guarding and have wired to explode”. Yeah, brilliant.
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D’anna: “Be careful here at the entrance to the cave. Don’t trip over that wire at our feet that is running out into the brushh.”

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Did anyone else find the supernova explosion a little disappointing? Aren’t supernovae supposed to be the brightest things in the universe (not the orangest)?

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[QUOTE=msmith537]
Did anyone else find the supernova explosion a little disappointing? Aren’t supernovae supposed to be the brightest things in the universe (not the orangest)?
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I found the entire episode pretty disappointing. The writing was pretty ‘meh’ throughout.

More SPACE OPERA and less SOAP OPERA, please.

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[QUOTE=Sean Factotum]
D’anna: “Be careful here at the entrance to the cave. Don’t trip over that wire at our feet that is running out into the brushh.”
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Assuming they were using C4…can an expert out there tell us what would keep them from just taking a pair of wire cutters to the wire going to the detonator? Would that cause a premature detonation?

Otherwise, pretty much everything that people have brought up so far has ALL come from the “let’s cram an entire episode into ten minutes” problem.

-Joe

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[QUOTE=Lightray]
Lee’s tactics were absolutely brilliant compared to the Cylon plan: “leave all our guys with guns behind while we enter the temple that our enemies are guarding and have wired to explode”. Yeah, brilliant.

Also, implausible. The Colonials withdrew because they were getting pasted by the Centurions, and not doing much in return. Yet, the Centurions did not continue their pursuit to the temple? where the other Cylons were, undefended? My suspenders-of-disbelief were not designed to handle that much of a load, folks.
It’s a suggestion made by Leoben to Laura, just before she spaced him. Granted, we know that Leoben is a lying whackjob, but… if the writers are playing fair, the person that D’Anna recognized has to be a major character.

That’s probably Adama, Tigh (unlikely), Roslyn, Apollo, Starbuck, or Baltar. Anders is too much of a side character, as are Tyrol and Zarek. (although Zarek as one of the Five would be cool.) Hope it’s not Baltar.

What would really be nice were if the last of the Final Five were… another Cylon. Like, a Six, or a Sharon.
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Just occured to me, one of the few ‘humans’ that we know D’anna has had much contact with (in such a way as to apologize for) was the captian she freed… can’t think of his name.. the POW that ‘started’ the war.

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[QUOTE=msmith537]
Did anyone else find the supernova explosion a little disappointing? Aren’t supernovae supposed to be the brightest things in the universe (not the orangest)?
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I didn’t get the impression that was the supernova – just a little warning burst. However, even were it supposed to be so, let’s keep in mind that this is the show which has weather in deep space (at Ragnar Anchorage, around New Caprica, and the Radiation Cloud next to the algae planet).

simster, I think you’re thinking of Bulldog, the captured pilot whom Adama knew. I do hope we see him again, but I think he’s been too minor a character to hang such an important plot point as this on.

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[QUOTE=Lightray]

simster, I think you’re thinking of Bulldog, the captured pilot whom Adama knew. I do hope we see him again, but I think he’s been too minor a character to hang such an important plot point as this on.
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That’s him… and agreed, but we don’t know of any interactions with other “primaries” that would elicit such a statement… just a wag, of course.

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[QUOTE=msmith537]
Did anyone else find the supernova explosion a little disappointing? Aren’t supernovae supposed to be the brightest things in the universe (not the orangest)?
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It was a nova, not a supernova. The two are very different beasts. Novae are much smaller.

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[QUOTE=Merijeek]
Assuming they were using C4…can an expert out there tell us what would keep them from just taking a pair of wire cutters to the wire going to the detonator? Would that cause a premature detonation?
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Nothing. It shouldn’t. It looked like they were pulling the blasting caps from the blocks of explosives. The caps should have still went bang when Apollo cranked the detonator, unless they were disconnecting them too. Don’t criticize too much though. In Hollywood explosives use a whole different set of physics than anywhere else.

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What I want to know is, if you’re establishing a base on a planet that could, conceivably, be invaded by Cylons, why the hell are you taking ineffectual weapons down there with you? I’m pretty sure the colonials have figured out by now that their stupid machine guns and pistols don’t work so well against chromies, and it’s not like they’re expecting wave upon wave of Cavills or Leobens to assault them, so why not have decent weapons?

I assume they have rocket launchers or heavy machine guns they could get down there?

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I’m guessing Starbuck’s dad has something to do with all this. Wasn’t he some sort of artist or musician and that’s where Starbuck gets her artsy side? Did we ever hear what happened to him?

I wish the Cylons’ model numbering system made more sense. We’ve got Three, Five, Six and Eight. Leoben, Cavil and Simon are unknown. The fact that Boomer is an Eight seems to imply the Cylons we’re now referring to as the “final five” were created after the Eight model.

Personally, I think “first five” would make more sense, but whatever. I can’t figure out how the first seven wouldn’t know who the final five are, unless a higher power creates Cylon models and doesn’t take counsel. In that case, it’s probably God.

I wouldn’t put too much meaning into D’Anna’s “forgive me” statement. It just sounded cool and that’s how the dialogue on this show works. It could simply have meant “forgive me for not figuring it out earlier,” or “forgive me for gazing upon your holiness.”

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]
the Cylons we’re now referring to as the “final five”
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Perhaps it refers to some sort of sporting event.

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I enjoyed this episode. Sure, none of the action setups turned into actual, y’know, action. :stuck_out_tongue: Dee going after Starbuck wasn’t exactly Die Hard. But I thought it was worth it for the line: “Your husband asked me to risk my life for yours.” Talk about summarizing a frakked-up situation. And that’s the character-oriented stuff that keeps me coming back to the show.

Plus Tyrol getting to say: “Welcome back, Mr. President.” Clonk! Woot.

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Didn’t Roslyn give amnesty to everyone who did naughty things during the occupation? Why is Baltar getting clonked anyway?

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[QUOTE=levdrakon]
Didn’t Roslyn give amnesty to everyone who did naughty things during the occupation? Why is Baltar getting clonked anyway?
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She very cleverly gave amnesty to everyone in the fleet. Baltar wasn’t in the fleet at the time, ergo, no amnesty.

IIRC someone pointed that out on the thread at that time.

Wouldn’t be surprised if that point comes up in the upcoming episodes, though.

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[QUOTE=Cervaise]
“Your husband asked me to risk my life for yours.”
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That’d be “My husband…”

I’ve come to the conclusion that this is a show about the women, cylons or humans. At the focus of every conflict, plot point or cliffhanger, there’s a woman doing something, acting, and a man reacting. Roslyn, Bomer/Athena, Gina/Caprica, D’Anna, Kallie, Starbuck, D, (what’sherface that died a couple of eps ago?). Compared to these, the men are just cardboard figures, maybe with the exception of Thigh, though his character arc is closely related to that of his late wife (don’t remember her name).

This ep re-emphasized that: The love quartet with Starbuck, Apollo, D and Anders. Sharon and her fight for the baby. Roslyn working the same quest as D’Anna, following a religious yearning, Carpica forever in a struggle with herself about where her loyalty lies.

Aside from that, the ground battle went on for too long ( I guess it was a try at catering to the fans that want more action and less talk, but it never had any suspense), the toaster that was blown in half was really poor CGI. It floated above ground. I quite enjoy the mystic stuff, but I don’t feel the mythology is internally logical and coherent. Way back, there was that arrow, and now this temple. People 13 000 years ago didn’t create mysteries for the benefit of their umptenth decendants in anticipation of a war between toasters and humans. RDM really needs to start dushing out some answers to the mystic storylinee if he’s gonna keep using it.
When the Cylons were calling back the heavy raiders, they were talking about D’Anna going on, despite the raiders being called back, but she was there among them. At first I thought she remote controlled a cyborg ship (for lack of better word) and it didn’t occur to me that another incarnation of D’Anna was onboard with Balthar and Stockwell.

Anybody remember if Starbuck actually had that painting in her apartment?

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[QUOTE=Charlie Tan]

Anybody remember if Starbuck actually had that painting in her apartment?
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She did. Some fans on the more obsessive sites picked up on the similarity a while ago.

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[QUOTE=Charlie Tan]
That’d be “My husband…”
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D’ohh!