Munch
I used the spoilers before the show was broadcast.
This bears repeating.
Label what the frak your spoilers are supposed to be!
Just use one of these handy types:
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[li]Speculation[/li][li]Spoilers for the current episode[/li][li]Spoilers for future episodes[/li][/ul]
Thank you for your attention.
Right, exactly, I feel this whole segment was bad writing. If it takes hours, then why can they just do many at once. All he does is sit around waiting for the results from what we saw in the episode. Also what ever happened to Lt Gaeta assisting him?
Other than poor writing, the only logical conclusion I can come to is that Balter is doing this on purpose, trying to slow down the results process, and retain control. As I commented before, since we know he continuously lies, we don’t know really know the truth behind the cylon detector’s workings.
Six did mention in the episode that the results are the same no matter who takes the test and she asks what the results really said and Gaius says he won’t tell.
The box is labeled spoiler. A spoiler is pretty much by definition something that gives away future information. That is what “spoiler” means. If you don’t want to learn about it, then don’t read it.
Exactly. And that’s why I pointed out that the other two examples were of information that was already given out. And because of the confusion (that happens week after week), it is helpful for everyone to label what their spoiler is. The problem is that while your definition is how I define what a spoiler is, other posters seem to feel it necessary to put information that’s already known in a box. Seriously, is it really asking to much to do the following?
Cervaise, since you’re usually the one who starts the thread each week (and gives some fantastic speculation/recaps/things to watch for, could you maybe post a little review of how we should treat spoilers? The guidelines the folks in the “Lost” threads seem to have a dandy one.
I agree with Munch.
Nothing much to contribute, except that Ellen Tighe is the worst skank I have ever seen. She couldn’t be a Cylon- they have standards.
One thing I thought that was particularly well done was
Spoiler of the current episode They speculate and throw out there that Adama might be a Cylon, build it up. We see Baltar & Six screwing around, cut to the scene of Adama’s Raptor lands opens and we see a leg in a red dress – it looks for all the world for a second like Six is with him before he introduces Tighe to his wife… but for a second I couldn’t believe it – IMO very well done
Anyway – I echo the WTF was the point of the Cylon raider.
I am still not entirely clear what the point of the Caprica experiment was either …
I think they are short of equipment to make more detectors (isn’t one of the parts an A-bomb)?
I liked where Starbuck walked in on Balthar banging Six (who of course she can’t see).
I thought the dinner party was pretty funny. Especially when Ellen yells, “Boo!”
Then, just after Ellen and Tigh leave, comes my favorite exchange of the episode:
President Roslin: “You actually think THAT woman is a Cylon?”
Lee Adama: “Well, if she’s not, then we’re all in a LOT of trouble.”
Hee Hee.
The Nuke is an obvious bottleneck, but do they really need to have it hooked up to the samples the entire time? Couldn’t they have others processing while one is being subjected to the nuke?
There has got to be some way to parallel process this thing…assuming that’s the real problem.
I suspected that Apollo damaged some part of it that controlled it’s FTL drive, either physically or the part of it’s “brain”. Thus trying to jump out and failing, over and over.
At the end, it managed to self repair somewhat and decided to go on a kamikaze run, perhaps realizing that it wasn’t going to be able to get home.
Has anybody mentioned yet that Grace Park (Boomer) is in this month’s issue of Maxim?
I’d just like to say that I’m really looking forward to the premiere of Mansquito next week. I mean, really, it might be good, but could they have come up with a sillier title for this movie?
I don’t know, I see Ellen as simply another, “older” version of Six. That is, they both seem to operate with a mechanical, blatantly sexual manner when dealing with humans, but have difficulty dealing with the more subtle aspects of human relationships. It seems like neither of them have the faintest clue about what love really is, that it’s more than just rubbing and humping.
The most powerful moment of the entire episode for me was toward the end, with Caprica-Six trying to suppress her sadness at being unable to experience what Caprica-Boomer apparently feels for Helo. And now that Cap-Boomer has felt love, she doesn’t want to be a Cylon anymore. Maybe that’s the Cylons’ ultimate weakness, their inability to understand human nature without succumbing to it and becoming human themselves. Maybe that’s what will eventually bring their downfall.
Or maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about. I’m assuming Ellen is a Cylon, but I just don’t know. That’s what I love about this show, I’m never quite sure what’s going on. And I want to find out. Badly.
So we should all use the definition of what you know, and when it’s aired for you to define a spoiler? Remember the entire series has aired in the UK. I have seen them(I have a British friend, you see). Shall I just start talking about ep.13 without spoilers simply because I have seen it and spoilers annoy me? Yes, I agree inconsistant use is annoying, but I’d rather see folks err on the side of more spoiler boxes rather than fewer. There will always be people here to which something is a spoiler. You may as well ask if the SDMB can remove spoiler boxes from all discussion of movies over, say, 6 months old, because they are annoying and everyone has seen the movie. It’s an international board, and some poeple see things ahead of others. Some of this info will be a spoiler 6 months from now to someone.
since all of this has been spoiled in this thread already:
As to the Cylon detector. Remeber they don’t have to test everyone. They have to test people until they find one example of each of the models(what is it, nine? I don’t remember for sure, but I do remeber they are aware of this number). Now if the Cylons are smart, they only sent maybe 7 into the population, but still, once they identify the model, thay can do a photographic search, not a DNA search(I assume that is what they are doing). Course that also implies that the detector works, and I got from this episode that it does not.
The Cylon scout was there for 2 reasons, I think. One was so Tigh could be the hero at the end, since he was the one that gave the order to launch the alert fighters, and that is what saved the Galactica. The commentary (see posts above) says as much.
The other reason is a little more speculative. Remember in ep. 6 when Boomer tells Chief whatshisname that he should think of the captured raider as an animal not a machine? What would a wounded animal do?
The Cylon gets wounded, runs around, freaks out, and in it’s confusion, tries to approach something that resembles it’s alpha(a very large ship) while being chased by things it does not recognize(vipers), so gets scared and runs(jumps) at random, and finally just lashes out and attacks.
I agree that it is better to err on the side of more spoiler boxes. What we ask is that you indicate what is in that spoiler box. Others can then decide whether they wish to read what’s in that spoiler. If it’s speculation, I’ll read it. If it’s spoilers the current episode (i.e., the episode named in the thread title), I won’t read it until after I’ve seen the episode. If it’s spoilers for a future episode, I won’t read it.
I repeat, please indicate what the frak is in your spoiler box.
I’m thinking Ellen isn’t a Cylon, but I’m really suspicious about this “savior” of hers that grabbed her off Picon, got her on a the Rising Star, and apparently took care of her for something like three weeks while she was unconscious.
Whoever rescued her was probably a Cylon, and that Cylon is probably still in the Fleet. It could have been Leoben, although they found him hiding on a different ship. Still, there could be more than the one Leoben. Or Doral. Or a model we haven’t seen yet.
I think this greatly increases the chances Ellen may have a Cylon chip in her head. Part of the reason they decided to chip Baltar I’m sure was that the most important thing to Baltar is Baltar. He’d never put himself (or the chip) in jeopardy by admitting he was compromised by Cylons. Ellen is the same way. She couldn’t care less about the survival of humanity, as long as Ellen gets lots of booze & pretty much whatever else Ellen wants. Why waste one of their models on her? They’ve only got 12. Easier to just chip her and have her do what they want, plus she’s Tigh’s wife.
Six definitely saw something in Ellen, yet didn’t come right out and say “Cylon.” Maybe she can sense another chipped human?
Question about Six based on a future episode:
At the end, she asked Baltar what Ellen’s test result really was and Baltar said he’d never tell. So Baltar can keep secrets from Six? Yet after Baltar sleeps with Starbuck and Six gets mad at him, she tells Baltar he can’t lie to her because she knows everything he knows. So is Six lying, and she really doesn’t know everything Baltar knows? Could this be a weakness that Baltar can exploit at some future date? We know Baltar can multitask. I’ve always hoped that means he can hide things from Six.
It was simply a plot device so Tigh could show he’s still on the job.
Of course, why the Galactica could not have taken out the fighter with it’s anti-aircraft guns is another story.
I get a sense from the conversation between Six and the other Cyclon is that they are trying to feel more “human”.
Of course, they still haven’t given a reason for starting the war in the first place.
I think it was mentioned a couple episodes back.
Strangely, I think she’s more attractive on the show then in the photos provided.