Because some of us are awake already, a Place Holder MMP

Pardon me all if I go on and vent a little.

Last question first - not really but what I found and where (in the date-range of that layer) gives me hope. Best case scenerio - we get enough from contents of value to basically give the house to a family member living there. (don’t ask - at that point it gets confusing and not real pretty. Someone living in squalor wishing to continue to do so.)

First question - its a God-given talent I wish I didn’t have. I have this knack of being able to find “whats important” in a pile of things. Sometimes its important on a physical/financial level and sometimes its more from an emotional level. I come from a family that was basically nomadic in the Old Country, lost in the White Revolution, and tended to hide things. Be it money or emotions, we always seemed to have someone wanting to take our “stuff” so even a generation afterwords we tend to be “guarded”. Add to that I’ve always been a bit of a coin collector and the last 15 years a professional numismatist; I have heard every story about beds full of cash and frozen turkeys full of jewelry to know all the good places to check. Trust me; had I had children their stash of weed would have NEVER been safe.

The first time I got to use my talent (I was a teenager then) was when a cousin committed suicide in his home via a shotgun to the chin. Myself and another cousin had to clean out the place, prepare it for sale, and recover possessions of his wife and kids as well as his ----- possessions that would help some day remember the happy times at least a little and allow them to move on. But not cover them in bulk their emotions couldn’t handle. In their case, after the death, entering the house was impossible for them and even seeing some things hurt. I must have done a good job; I still get a nice note from the kids every Christmas and a little gifty thing every birthday.

Not so long ago is was my in-laws house. They weren’t your traditional hoarders; more standard Depression Era. Few hundred mason jars, few dozen lawnmowers Popsi had plans to fix “some day”. Few hundred pounds of “scrap paper” to make notes on. The kids grew and moved out and the rooms just sort of filled and filled and filled. After all, they “had the space” which in the end included the steps and hallways too. As they aged they had to do one of two things - clean down or go to a nursing home. Just moving from place to place was a risk and when Muvver got sick one night the paramedics had to carry her to the first floor to put her on the gurney - it wouldn’t fit around all their stuff. Doing it themselves — well, they just couldn’t. But I could. And I found dearly missed photos and other things they had forgotten they had - things they cherished having back in their lives, And I found some forgotten stashes of cash; and sometimes cash can mean freedom and choices. It was a slow process - 10 bags this week, 20 next week, none for a couple weeks. But it made them safe and able to live on their own and for Muvver to continue even after Popsi died. And it made my wife feel good.

I found, for Popsi, his fathers wallet just as he had brought it home from the hospital the night his father died with the money and cards and all still inside. And for that he thanked me every week from then until his death. (It’s in our safety deposit box now) What I did my wife claims kept them independent at least 5 years longer than her wildest dream and saved her the “nursing home” fight.

In between have been a dozen houses or so. Different kinds and different situations but a like theme - things taking control. Some were relatives houses and some not. And one barn full of great stuff that literally fell down around me before I was totally finished. But we saved the farm.

This one; this one comes from being active in church. Our Pastor knew a secretary at another church who had agreed to be executor for a single friend 40-some years ago. And when her friend died and she learned she was still executor ---- and what she was executor of ---- the lady about died herself. Literally; she went to the hospital with chest pains and in distress. Pastor asked me to help and as Swampy can attest, telling Pastors you work with no isn’t easy.

There are four “relatives of the deceased” none of whom are any help, lots of debt, and one who would like the house but isn’t willing to do anything to earn it or help make it his. Honest - I know from him and his siblings that he’s living in two of the rooms but I can’t tell you which ones; they are all equally bad. I do know he has no attachment or desire to use the first floor or basement which is why I am starting there. Trying to give him some time to realize that “something” is going to be done one way or another. Some day I may need to get to the rooms around “his” – that part could turn ugly. Usually my rule has been to stick to empty houses; Muvver and Popsi were one of two exceptions. Its easier when its just the walls and you.
I GOT TIME OUT BUT WANT TO FINISH THIS BEFORE I LOG IN AND SUBMIT IT

Swampy wrote “Mind you, I’m glad it’s you and not me but I look forward to tales of found woundrous treasures.”

I will her and there as I can and feel the need. In a way I’m glad its me and not you. Here in Yankeeland we got silverfish and some bugs but short of rotten food and cockroaches (I don’t do food-strewn places full of cockroaches) we ain’t got nuttin like the bugs ya’ll got. Some of them would creep me right out!

You want her to give you the finger?

A nickname for Phouka? I call my dog Sweet Pea Phouka (cause Phoukas can change into dogs, see?). When she’s being especially silly I call her PhoukaPants. No?

My first thought was to simply call phouka Pooh but the whole Kanga thing makes me think Rhoo would be better.

That’s all I got. Need to get it together and haul myself off to the orafice. Blurf.

We’re a day closer to the weekend!

Bri2k

Pre-columbian cultures disagree with your Sweetie. So do I for that matter; if we’re going to stick to purely-technological things, firebuilding (as opposed to mere fire-preserving) and containers where you could carry food around and preserve it (either clay or woven-reeds) are much higher.

I feel like I’ve been run over by the way too early bus. Not to mention that I didn’t really sleep at all last night.

Blurf.

Good Mornin’ Y’all! Up and caffienatin’. YAWN ‘Tis 54 degrees Amurrkin out with a predicted high of 77 with rain. I hope it does rain. There’s stuff in the air makin’ me all sneezy.

shortdrum glad the vehicle is workin’ ok. Go after that tow truck driver with a pointy stick, I say!

ruble wow, that family is a piece of work. I wouldn’t do what you’re doin’ cause I’d take one look and think there’s gotta be :eek: snakes :eek: in there! Also I agree about the roaches and food. ICK!!!

Ok, I need more caffiene and need to feed rumbly tummy. Then, alas, irk purtification must commence.

Happy Thursday Y’all!

I declare that **Kanga **shall be phouka’s nickname, because **swampy **called it first, and because I already embedded it into my brain before the other suggestions popped up. Pity my old brain, please!!! :stuck_out_tongue:

**kopek **- your comment about finding a weed stash made me laugh aloud!! :smiley:

What else - sickies, knock it off and get well!!!

Today is my sweetie’s 55th b-day. We’re going out for fried chicken at a local place he really likes. Plus when I get home from class, I’ve got to make a couple of punkin pies since he requested that in lieu of cake. He’s weird, but I think I’ll keep him. :wink:

Got an email from the crazy-about-Christmas sister suggesting we stick to the $10 exchange game this year - YAY!! She usually goes nuts (sadly with mostly dollar store junk - no offense, doggio, but she really does pick out junk) - but anyway, since her husband was out of work for almost a year, I expect they’re broke, so we’ll be spared the junk. And personally, I think the goofy exchanges are much more fun. Lots of packages are great for little kids, but there comes a time when it just seems silly. Anyway, yay.

I need breakfast. And a shower. And appropriate attire for school. So much pressure this early in the day… Happy Thursday anyway! :smiley:

TVCTPMO struck hard today. I awoke to a text message from the credit union that my checking account was overdrawn. It was covered by savings, but I’m now tight until next Firday.

The coup de grace was going out to start the Foomobile for my lengthy commute, only to find I left my dome light on all night. A half hour delay ensued while I dug out the charger and waited until enough juice was imparted to start the POS.

The cherry on top was the car radio losing it’s memory and all my presets.

I can haz :grrrrrr: ?

Good morning!

kopek - I am fascinated as well by your hoarding stories. Do you watch Hoarders? Matt Paxon is a big hit on the A&E message boards for Hoarders. I’m amazed at what people like you do.

I’ve got meetings all day, and I have to finish a drawing before the first one. Plus I’m leaving early today to get my car repaired. I wonder what kind of tiny rental car they’ll give me? :rolleyes: Actually, it has been a surprisingly easy transaction so far.

Ok - gonna go warm up my breakfast then get bizzzzzzzzzyyyyyyyyyyyyyy…

OK, comics and Dear Abby read - time for me to hit the shower and head to school. Woohoo!!

:smiley:

My god, are you serious? She crushed it that badly? Holy hell!! Um, she can keep it. While I find gross things cool, I’ve got the sneaking suspicion that asking for someone’s detached finger is a bit uncouth. I did get to see Sweetie’s father’s hand after he got it stuck in a machine at work (lost his finger too, and pulverized his palm) so I’ve got a pretty good visual to go on. When you start raising money for your wife’s plastic bubble, you let us know.

Me as well. :smiley:

I’m so sorry but this also made me guffaw. However, I decree that you are not allowed to have anything else bad happen to you today! You hear that Bobbio?! Nothing. You just stop it now. You’ve gone over your quota and we need to have enough to go around.

Oh yeah, and give my sympathy to Mrs Bobbio, I did that as a kid, and still have one weird shaped fingertip- my parents did offer to get it plastic surgery’d back to normal looking, but it’s the only way I can tell my left from my right, so I’m keepin’ it :stuck_out_tongue:

Also good for a reaction from small kids- if you ever need to make one go ‘Uuuurgh’, I’m yer girl! :smiley:

For all you n00bs wondering about the acronym, TVCTPMO is The Vast Conspiracy To Piss Me Off. They play a recurring role in my life with a nauseating frequency.

Ugly day today, windy and cold and rainy and I had to get up at 5am for a 7am irk meeting. But that means I get to leave at 3:30 so my friend and I are going to the movies then to din-din. We’re seeing Moneyball (the one with Brad Pitt) and Olive Garden for dinner and I don’t want any nuffers about Olive Garden! Looking forward to way too much fat and carbs.

So did I typing it but its true. I saw some cops roaming the neighborhood with flashlights one night and went out to my porch. Like any other idiot I asked if something was wrong and the one officer said they had been chasing someone and he had hidden his drugs before getting caught. I walked up and down the sidewalk a couple times, pointed to a gap in my neighbors fence and said “Is that them”? It was.

I’ve seen parts of a couple episodes but never got hooked. The things I’ve experienced and seen relate to the show more like “your mileage may vary”. My average place has been more like American Pickers than Hoarders a;though some like this current one do cross the line.

The current place; when the executor and I first entered we saw a room going off to the right. Typical living room kind of look. I could see the tops of a couple wardrobes but with the way people re-use furniture that wasn’t any big surprise. Our “china cabinet” is a chiffarobe that just happened to fit the space perfect - it was easy for me to rebuild the inside to serve the purpose. We decided that would end up my work space so that’s where I concentrated part of Tuesday. After moving the chair in the entrance, a couple car-loads of toasters and pans, and working my way towards a broken television I found the footboard of a bed. And soon realized the rest of the bed was attached. A full sized bed. Invisible in a 12x10 room. On the bed is a walker. I can’t get it free but I know what walkers look like.

My guess ended up pretty much right when I checked the details. The lady who lived there had fallen about 20 years ago and hurt her leg badly. So she had the living room turned into a bedroom since it was right at the door. The leg healed but being older she “may need it again” so it stayed half bedroom and half living room. And slowly filled. Until the last thing left was the chair in the doorway that she set bags and boxes on as she brought them in.

OK - its crazy. But it makes a certain kind of insane sense if you know what I mean.

I have two friends my age who are a future project if I don’t fool them and die first. Met back when we were in college and married. Both were only children with some single aunts and uncles. Uncle Sid died and he had some really special stuff no-one could sell so they moved it into their place and filled the one extra bedroom. Then Aunt Betty died and she was always mothers favorite and mother just couldn’t see those things sold - so they ended up in the basement. Then “dad’s baby brother” was killed in a car wreck and just a few boxes of his things won’t take much space. Then the parents started to die. Mom needed Dad’s things removed but couldn’t part with them so -------------. Last year they got a small apartment near their house which is basically a giant storage locker right now.

In some ways the show “Hoarders” strikes me as too simple. These things grow slowly. Sometimes they make sense at first. A lot of times there are layers of “enablers” who encourage it along. Sometimes it is a total health disaster waiting to happen but lots of times its just dust and sweat. And a local nomad who doesn’t need anything he can’t carry to sort through it. :wink: Whats the old saying? We expand to fill any space we’re given? Hoarders and American Pickers show the Readers Digest Condensed version of when that happens. The full length version is human enough that if you get a chance to help, you just do.

Windchill of 26 this morning in the OKC.

This was me when I stepped out the house this morning

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Man did I get soft living in CA after 5 Wyoming winters 26 should be T-shirt weather :smiley:

I have Beast Stew in the slow cooker for supper tonight. I browned the beast up last night. I am hoping it is good. It smelt good when I left. Recipe called for 7 hours on high but given I left before 7AM and mr ems wont be home until 7 or 8 I figured I would leave it on low then when I get in at about 6ish crank it up if it needs it.

Had great report from the surgeon follow up yesterday I am a Rockstar apparently and look like I am 5 months post op rather than 6 weeks.

I can start back gentle exercise so I am going to go to water aerobics to kick off my weight loss again. 30 lbs down this year and there will be another 30 more off soon.

Surprise, surprise, surprise!!! (OK, who read that in Gomer Pyle’s voice??) :smiley:

As I was rummaging in my freezer to get out a couple of pie crusts for punkin pie, I came across at least 2 bags of sketty sauce that I didn’t know I had. So I’ve got 4 bags in there. Yay! :smiley: One will get used next week in a lasagne, and the rest will be eaten eventually.

Class was easy today. I glazed my penguin and my face jug, unloaded one kiln (the other was still too hot, so I couldn’t get my monster head out :frowning: ) then finished by making an eensy little penguin. I need to make patterns of penguin parts - I think I can sell them, especially if I decorate them in team colors or just have fun with them - like pink or green instead of black. Or reversing the black and white. Or striped or spotted… I foresee a fun craft show next year!

Punkin pies are in the oven. It’s smelling really good in here. I need to do a little tidying. Yeah, I’ll get right on that. :wink:

I know it’s way early, but I’m claiming the Monday after Thanksgiving to start the MMP. That’s the 28th.

OK, that’s all I’ve got for now. Except to promise that I won’t be part of TVCTPMO against BBBobbio. At least not for the moment…

Gotta share this. Some of you, depending upon age and where you grew up, my recall in the 50s and 60s, some people decorated their houses with ceramic cats climbing up walls or trees. My goofy youngest sister asked me to make her some cats for her house. I’ve done 4 so far, the only one in this pic that I didn’t make is the one in the upper right - she bought that and I used it as a sample to get me started. She wants about a dozen, to cement her reputation as a crazy cat lady… :smiley:

She lives in our grandparents’ old house in east Baltimore - I guess I need to make some more.

Not to drop in unannounced…but I am dropping in unannounced. I just went and got blood drawn for my allergy testing. Now my veins in my elbows are very deep, and my skin is dark enough that it’s very hard to find them. She tried, briefly, but thankfully as soon as she realized she could not, she stopped and asked if I had ever been stuck in the hand. With a great sense of relief, for I had been imagining twenty minutes of trying to find the vein, I said yes.

So she first stuck me in the left hand, then the right, because she couldn’t get enough blood out the first time (I really do not give up blood easily). She very nicely puts gauze and tape on it…and sends me on my way.

Seriously. They do not give bandages anymore! So I drove back with these two big gauze pads on the back of each hand. Made me look like I am completely incompetent at slitting my wrists.

At least I have bandaids at work. D’oh!