Best Friend Vs. Mother: I Need A Consensus

Okay.

So I just got into (another) argument with my best friend tonight. I want to know what the general consensus is on said argument.

a.) I do not currently speak to my parents. I was with a guy for eight years that they didn’t “approve of,” to the point that they disowned me for a while over it, mainly because he was of a different race, and also because my parents are very religious people and ergo I “gave away” something to this guy that wasn’t “mine to give,” because my body belongs to God and my father. In that order.

b.) When I was still trying to patch things up with my parents several years ago, and of the “live and let live” mentality, my best friend “April” and my mother got to know one another. My mother bought two puppies from April, and they’re both wildly obsessed dog-people so they would talk frequently about the dogs. April still “dog-sits” at her house for my mother, even though they live in different cities. My parents will drive to April’s house to drop the dogs off when they go on vacation because April is the only one they “trust” with the precious babies.

c.) My parents pretended to “get over it” for awhile, and I assumed that meant that regardless of what they think of the choices I’ve made, their relationship with me was more important…so they were content to keep their mouths shut…but April and I went to go visit my mother two summers ago, and when I went across the street to visit with neighbors, my mother seized the opportunity to unload on April all the crap that she’s really been thinking this whole time. (Horrible, painful, bigoted BS.) She hadn’t “gotten over it” at all. She was just waiting for the opportunity to strike. She thinks the world of April and she thought she had a potential ally and she saw her moment.

d.) April is my best friend, not my mother’s, so she eventually (within a couple of weeks) told me the gist of what my mother said about me, my life, my relationship, etc.

e.) I called my mother to verify this information, and my mother said that, yes, she did say all that crap, and she still believes it, and she won’t change her mind.

f.) I hung up on my mother and haven’t spoken to her since.

Now, my question is…the argument is…does April have any right to talk to my mother about me? Like I said, April still dog-sits for my parents. That’s fine. Whatever.

But the question is, does April have any right to tell my mother anything about me? Like I said, it’s been almost two years since I’ve spoken to either of my parents, because other than the occasional hateful absurd email, they have made no effort to contact me, and I’m of the opinion that life is too short to deal with that kind of bigoted, backward, hateful, painful BS. I extended the olive branch for five years, and I thought they’d accepted it, but then my mother betrayed me by spewing all this crap at April, and I decided then, and I still think, that I just don’t want to deal with it. They don’t deserve to know what’s up with me. That’s their choice. And I don’t deserve to deal with them, either.

April is on the fence. On the one hand, she sees my point, but on the other hand, she feels like she can be the “bridge” between my parents and I. Particularly my mother, whom she still talks to. Ostensibly because of the dogs, but I don’t buy that. I know damn well my mother sees April as a source of info on me.

Like, “Well, I know I’m not talking to Audrey and all, but I know she’s alive and doing okay because otherwise April would tell me! I hear she’s doing just fine, so I don’t have to grow up and admit to my mistakes just to find out what’s going on with my only daughter! That’s what April’s for! Audrey’s doing just fine! And that’s okay with me!”

April says she doesn’t tell my mother anything other than “Audrey’s fine, she’s okay, she’s still working at X” type of stuff. She says she can’t help it. She says, “But that’s your MOTHER!”

I say my mother has no right to that information, or ANY information, and that April is actually hindering any kind of bridge between us by giving my mother the best of both worlds. If my mother had no other source of info on me, she just might grow the hell up and try to build a bridge me with me herself.

As it is, she doesn’t have to swallow her pride and her opinions and actually try, because she knows “enough” through April.

April is trying to convince both of us to talk to one another. I think it’s honestly not her place to try. It isn’t her life, or her mother, or her daughter, and she doesn’t know everything that I know, and even if she did, she’s not the one in the middle of it. I know she means well, and that her intentions are good, but I still feel like she’s kind of betraying me every time she even says my name to my mother.

What’s the consensus here? Is April right, or am I?

April has the right to do and say anything she pleases. I’m assuming you’re both adults. You can ask her not to, but whether she actually obliges really is up to her. If you don’t want her talking to your mother about you, then maybe you should re-think your level of interaction with April.

You can’t control other people’s behavior or actions. You can only control the way you react to them. Forget anything about what April or your Mom should do. What are you going to do? If you don’t want your Mom getting word of you through April then your best bet is to cut yourself off from April too. If that’s not an option for you, then learn to accept that your mom is going to be in contact with April and you have no control over their communications.

Have you specifically asked April not to tell your mother anything about you? If so, I think she should refrain from doing so. If not, you can’t really fault her for doing so.

Some people (like me, for instance) can’t stand it when families are on the outs. I come from a very loving family and when I see people who are pissed off, angry, indifferent, or hurt by family members, it actually causes a pain reaction in me. I know it’s silly and that it’s none of my business, but I always advise to try to bridge the gap. While I would never go behind a friend’s back with information, I would certainly encourage both sides to bury the hatchet (preferably not in one another’s back). Maybe that’s where your friend is coming from.

So…you don’t want to bury the hatchet. Tell your friend that you don’t want to exchange information with your mother anymore. Tell her you want her to keep all your conversations confidential. Tell her that if she can’t do that, you can no longer maintain the close relationship you currently have. She will have to decide where her loyalty lies. But you need to be prepared to lose her friendship, as well. Good luck.

I have a similar experience. My brother maintains contact with my father although there is almost 40 years of “habits” to prove his lack of worth as a human.

I have to assume anything I say/do, will be told to my father. It kills me to know that my father knows I have a child. It may seem petty, but I feel like my child is safer in this world if he doesn’t know she is in it. I know exactly how you feel when you don’t want someone to even know if you might be alive, much less anything more pertinent in your life.

Now, to you. Folks are right. April can say/do anything she wants to. It is her life, her mouth and her consequences. How I choose my friends is based on my perceptions of how they are living their life, their level of loyalty and their committment to those they love, no matter how screwed up I may think it is. Let me ask you this, can you be friends with April knowing that those sorts of things don’t matter to her as much as whether or not your parents have the “babies of her babies.” If she spewed out the type of stuff you talk about and April didn’t back away slowly, I would worry about her priorities. If you ask me, you are playing second fiddle to a dog.

Now, do you know for sure she is attempting to “bridge a gap?” Or are you guessing? Do you think her motives are good, but her methods suck? I don’t know about the rest of you, but the first time my Mother said “I disown you” I would be out of there, lickety split. That would be it. If my husband said “I want a divorce” you can bet he would get one. Taking responsibility for your actions and words is very important to me. Don’t say it if you don’t mean it, and I don’t give a rats patootie if you were mad when you were saying it. I show you that respect. If I was you, I would explain that concept to April. You are doing what your mother SAID for you to do. Not only is April going against your loyalties as a friend, she is betraying your mothers wishes also.

If folks were actually held accountable for what they say/do, we wouldn’t be in these sorts of predicaments. Your word is your bond. Be that a good word or bad.

I hear where you’re coming from. I totally understand Kalhoun’s point of view and usually share it, but Auntbeast is right: sometimes relationships get so damaged that it’s better and healthier for everyone to just cut off contact and leave it at that.

Tell April that you may change your mind about your mom someday, but in the meantime, her attempts to “bridge the gap” are only adding fuel to the fire. If she gets the message, great; if not, you’ll just have to start limiting your interaction with her.