No big deal. It’s already forgotten.
I expected the show to pick up but the opposite is happening. The Kettlemans and the courthouse appearances and the nail salon office where good comedic relief but now it’s just becoming dull. It’s not bad but it’s no BB either.
Glad I’m not the only one who feels that way. Still, it’s better than most television… save The Americans and Vikings… my other two fav’s.
I’m still enjoying it a lot, but I was kind of hoping that the guy with the baseball cards would be a continuing story for longer than it was. I didn’t find the Kettlemans all that interesting, but he was amusing.
Wouldn’t that also be fraudulent behaviour? How would deceiving someone to get information be defensible in court?
The Leftovers, Season 2: best storytelling in the past year.
No, she has plausible deniability, and was careful to keep it that way. She never asked Jimmy if he did it, and never pursued any details about it very specifically so she could maintain her official lack of knowledge (even though her gut knows he’s guilty).
I’m leaning toward the logical path that Jimmy agrees not to use his McGill name and that there is enough profitable business coming his way that he decides to stay in the great Southwest…but, why did he choose ‘Saul Goodman’? The family wasn’t actually Jewish, were they? Is there still an interesting story behind the choice of ‘Saul Goodman’ as his lawyer name?
If he were to have left the area entirely, went to Nebraska to practice law, etc. then I could see how ‘Saul Goodman’ might have thrown any pursuers off track a bit…but staying in NM, everyone must know that Saul Goodman is the former Jimmy McGill, and would not think of that name change as some bit of favorable information about Jimmy’s professional ability.
It’s all good, man.
No, she made an innocent factual observation about Chuck and how his mind works, which prompted Jimmy to go out in the dead of night and talk to the copy guy to try to keep his innocent, completely legal copying from becoming a detail that Chuck’s paranoia could latch onto even though he would rather just sleep and hope his brother recovered on his own. Unfortunately it was too late, and the fact that Chuck became agitated enough at the copy guy that he became threatening, then collapsed into a head injury, then refused medical treatment makes it clear that Jimmy was right to worry about his brother’s condition. It’s not a felony to make factual statements that prompt’s a man to try to help protect his brother and leads to him saving his brother’s life! And really, if he was trying to conceal a felony, why would he go against the doctor’s advice and get a temporary guardianship, when the doctor wanted to have his brother committed, which would stop the entire investigation?
Kim has been very careful not to say or hear anything that she shouldn’t. She may be a well-dressed cute blonde, but she’s also a hotshot lawyer with flexible ethics.
Thanks, I’m enjoying discussing the show here.
Other people have pointed out that Jimmy put the originals back, which means there are no modified documents to examine, so that forensic analysis won’t show anything. On the other kind of forensic analysis, Jimmy didn’t use gloves and conceivably might have left fingerprints. But by this time fingerprints don’t show that anything bad happened, because any prints could have been left there after the documents passed to Kim.
In case anyone is still confused, the sequence is:
Chuck gets case files delivered from HHM, which have various documents about what MV is doing. Some of these are things that were filed with the banking commission in the past.
Jimmy comes in to keep an eye on Chuck, realizes he’s got an opportunity, and takes all of the documents with addresses on them out of the files. He goes to the copy place and makes numerous copies and doctors them up, then puts the final doctored copies back into the files at Chuck’s house.
Chuck uses the doctored copies to generate the start of new documents for MV’s branch, and passes them on to paralegals at HHM to be finalized. None of the paralegals comment on the address, either they don’t catch it or they don’t want to call out a partner.
Chuck and Howard go to the hearing where the incorrect documents have been filed. While they are at the hearing Jimmy cuts back in and puts the old original documents back into the files at Chuck’s house. So at this point all of the old documents in the file have the correct address, match what was sent in already, and haven’t been modified at all. The documents generated by Chuck all have the wrong address as though he accidentally read the numbers wrong, and none have been doctored in any way.
Exactement, as the French would say. There’s nothing TO investigate in a forensic way. Slippin’ Jimmy is thorough.
In Breaking Bad, his clientele is mostly criminal, and he explains to Walter that the clients prefer a Jewish attorney, so he chose a name that sounds Jewish.
Like others have said, underwhelmed by this finale.
It’s an episode 6 of the series, at best…
Right:
[QUOTE=Saul Goodman]
Faith and begorrah! A fellow potato eater! My real name’s McGill. The Jew thing I just do for the homeboys. They all want a pipe-hitting member of the tribe, so to speak…
[/QUOTE]
Yes! I thought that was hilarious.
Agreed. For me, the best single season of anything since Breaking Bad wrapped up.
Michael McKean is terrific, but the whole Chuck subplot is boring. I find myself hoping they hurry up and get back to what Mike is doing. Jimmy needs to become Saul sooner rather than later.
I already conceded this argument back in post #80.
Was that cabin/shack the cartel was at the same place Tuco brought Walter and Jesse at the beginning of season 2 for BB?
Right, when Chuck comes back and says that he didn’t really mean to quit, but it was to trick Jimmy into confessing, I would think Howard would be concerned. But if Chuck keeps talking and saying that he knew that there was no way he could make a mistake, and that Jimmy is trying to destroy him, and that he covered his house in tin foil in order to convince him (although he really should have done that a long time ago) then I would think Howard would be even more concerned. As a good guy and good lawyer, I would think Howard would encourage Chuck to stay retired, and hope that Chuck doesn’t escalate things. The publicity for HHM would not be good if it gets out that one of their partners is “allergic to electricity” and having this huge fight with his own brother.
I’d be surprised if Howard was in on it. He had thought that Chuck had made a mistake before and fairly gently told him that it’s okay and it wasn’t a good mistake to make but that it’s not the end of the world. I would think if Chuck told him that he had a plan to get Jimmy to confess, and that he would fake quit HHM and cover his house in tin foil, Chuck would sound even crazier than usual and I don’t think Howard would want to enable that. There’s no benefit to HHM for Howard to enable this, and really no benefit to enabling Chuck whether he’s right or not. Even if Chuck proves everything correctly, Mesa Verde is never coming back to HHM, they’ll find another firm.
And Howard doesn’t think of Jimmy the same way that Chuck does, where Jimmy is someone always scheming and can’t ever be trusted and to blame for everything that goes wrong. I think he knows that Jimmy isn’t always on the straight and narrow, but I don’t know if he thinks he’s someone who needs to be caught in a lie. I think he mostly tries to stay out of the way of things between Chuck and Jimmy.
It’s possible that Howard was helping Chuck, but I’d be surprised if that was the case.