Biden considering dropping out (Update: Biden drops out)

Just for once, I wish candidates would be honest about their real motives. D and R alike. None of this “I’m doing it for the nation or for the common good,” although of course they’ll dress it up as that.

Most politicians have huge egos, and genuinely believe their service in office is “for the nation or for the common good”.

If there’s one thing you can count on, it’s that approximately half of the people who hold an absolute position that a future event will result in A or B will become insufferably self-aggrandizing about their comprehensive understanding, despite having no actual evidence that their prediction was better than a guess. The other half will slink away silently, but will return just like the first half for the next inflection point with unflapable belief in their own position.

Bring back Clinton! He is still younger than either Trump or Biden.

Is it though?

It seems a huge assumption that Senate Candidate-D polling well against Senate Candidate-R in their state would corolate to to that same Senate Candidate-D polling well nationally against Presidential Candidate-R.

How about Hillary? I bet she has a lot of fight left in her!
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As someone who can be quoted as saying (many years ago) that there was no way America was voting for a guy named Barrack HUSSEIN Obama, I’d say that it’s probably better to assume that TV visualizations of hicks and hillbillies starting 2 inches from the border of Manhattan are fanciful and largely false.

A woman can be voted in. Not any woman - definitely not Hillary - but when we won’t it’s because of that particular woman, not just being applied to any woman in general. I think we’d hire zombie Margaret Thatcher, just fine.

More that may be of interest:

President Biden is scheduled to meet on Wednesday with several Democratic governors in a closed-door meeting at the White House, part of a push to reassure the president’s supporters that he can still win the election in November despite his debate debacle last week.

No, that’s not the implication of what Silver is saying. The assumption is that a Dem presidential candidate should be polling around the same as a Dem Senate candidate. If not, that means that some voters are inclined to vote for a Dem Senate candidate, but not Biden. That kind of ticket splitting is bad for Dems, and right now Biden is seriously underperforming in states that matter.

So Silver’s point is that a different pres candidate could be expected to poll closer to what the Senate candidates are. I didn’t know if I’m explaining that clearly.

Listening to Wolf Blitzer’s evening CNN program The Situation Room right now on Sirius XM.

An unnamed Congressperson (I know) told CNN that Biden is done and is all but out - he just hasn’t come to realize it yet. This was about 25 minutes ago, and has been repeated once so far during the program.

Hypothetically, suppose both the presumptive Democratic and Republican nominees were to withdraw tomorrow. There would be some states in which neither would be put on the ballot. However, I would not put it past the best SCOTUS that money can buy to rule that the Republican replacement can be put on the ballot but the Democratic one cannot. They don’t need legal reasoning as was proven by the immunity ruling, they can simply say we have the power to do it and you all can go pound sand.

There was an article this morning, not sure if NYT or elsewhere, that pointed out that the Heritage Foundation has already identified 3 states - Georgia, Nevada and Wisconsin - that could potentially pose a trap for candidates who have to drop out late and be replaced, because of deadlines or other requirements. In theory, this would hamper both the D’s and R’s equally, but as you point out, it could be unevenly applied.

It could also create a bizarro situation where Biden is on the ballot in Wisconsin, Nevada and Georgia and cannot be removed despite being off the ticket, but Kamala is the (D) candidate on the ballot of all 47 other states.

This video dates back to 2020 and shows Biden answering a reporter’s question about a hypothetical situation.

If that was the exact wording used, I’ll note that that statement says absolutely nothing about Biden’s state of mind, just that the speaker thinks that Biden dropping out is inevitable.

Oh I didn’t realize you meant that old article.

I thought you meant today’s news.

So, sorry.

IF he does end up dropping out, the White House will stridently insist that any reporting that Biden is even considering dropping out is fake news up until ten minutes before he announces he’s dropping out.

Biden certainly is not advertising considering dropping out and he wouldn’t until the moment he does (assuming that would happen which I agree is super unlikely).

What is happening are a lot of people, in power in his own party, considering pressuring him to do so. And that suggests some big problems among dems which is bad news for dems.

The exact wording is now on CNN’s website:

And another Democratic lawmaker said that their assessment of Biden’s candidacy is that “it’s over, we are just waiting for the announcement. [Biden] is not there yet, will take a bit to get there, but it’s over.”

I’m not buying this crap. It’s too late to drop out now.

If he’s genuinely suffering from dementia then, whether it’s too late or not, the earlier the better.