The Never-Bidens in the party who have been plotting against him for years and took advantage of a momentary slip in the debate to convince everyone that Trump was right.
They shouldn’t have elected him as their nominee, then. It’s too late for buyer’s remorse.
Agree, but that may have been prior to the evident health issues he is currently facing. I think the Democrats have their panties in a wad right now because of fear of producing another RBG situation - they’d rather try and get on a different track before it’s too late. Now appears to be the time to switch tracks, if they’re gonna.
Yes, he has that right. That’s not disputed. And he has the right to relinquish that role. And people have the right to ask him to. And he decides.
There has to be a vote at the convention. I think the only way to beat Trump is for the Democrats to coalesce behind one candidate. I would like to see it be Harris because she can run as a continuation of Biden-Harris policies. I think not endorsing Harris is a bad move for Biden and if I were him and I had a favored candidate I would make darn sure that everyone forcing me out endorsed them as my replacement before I agreed to go.
Even more: the people owe politicians nothing, ever. Politicians should be loyal to the people - never the other way around. Loyalty towards politicians is the root of autocracy.
If a politician is no longer useful they should be thrown out with the trash. Can’t deal with that? Choose a different profession.
Was there another choice to be had on the ticket?
As for “Never-Bidens” we are seeing many who were big supporters of Biden back away. People like George Clooney who raised something like $20 million for Biden. Hardly a Never-Biden kinda guy.
What about Barack Obama? Also a “Never-Biden?”
Geez dude.
The man is incapable of serving as POTUS at this point. Either he or his handlers or both have been hiding this fact or are in denial about it. It’s not a betrayal to accept what has, belatedly and painfully, become obvious.
See, here’s the thing. We know Harris will want the nomination. Is anyone else substantial going to compete with her for it? I seriously doubt that. So it won’t matter anyway. All that opening it up will do is let the RFK Jr.'s and Dean Phillipses feed their egos and degrade the optics. If anyone serious really wants the job besides Harris, then they will probably hash it out behind the scenes anyway. If they can’t hash it out, then it not only degrades the optics but actually hurts the eventual winner. There’s just no point to it.
This isn’t some morality play or “Biblical” issue. We need a winner that can defeat Trump. Period.
There were four.
We have a winner that can defeat Trump.
Yes, that’s what Trump has been saying since 2019. It was false then and it’s false now.
No, we don’t. Your opinion doesn’t make it so.
None of whom were candidates who had even a ghost of a chance, because at that time, back in late 2023 and early this year, Democrats generally were not that worried about Biden’s capabilities, and at that time, no serious candidate was going to challenge an incumbent president.
All of this, largely starting with the debate, has come up long after he had more than enough delegates.
The situation has changed. I hope that Biden is smart enough, and humble enough, to admit that it has. Yes, he has the right to continue his campaign; that does not mean it is the wise thing to do: for him, for the Democratic Party, or for the country.
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4780762-biden-future-harris-running-mate/
Well-connected Democratic Party insiders say they expect President Biden to make a major announcement about his future soon after the Republican National Convention concludes in Milwaukee and that congressional leaders expect that Vice President Harris will become their nominee for president if Biden drops his reelection bid.
The talk among high-level Democratic strategists and donors has now turned to who is best positioned to serve has Harris’s running mate, and the short list has boiled down to Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.), Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear and North Carolina Gov. Roy Cooper.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom and Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer have communicated to senior party leaders that they would not be interested in serving as Harris’s running mate, according to a person familiar with the candidates in the mix to join Harris atop the ticket.
Sorry, you’re in denial. The situation sucks, I get it, but Biden is in terrible shape.
Any running mate for Harris would almost certainly have to be a man; I think a woman-woman ticket would be too much for the electorate.
First off: no, it’s not. Second: aren’t we talking about Biden stepping down? So that’d be, what, seller’s remorse? Is it too late for seller’s remorse?
To me it is akin to when you have to tell your elderly mom or dad they can no longer drive.
I think everyone is pushing back a bit too hard here.
Without the overwhelming pressure, Biden would not step down.
Biden has a right to be the nominee because he was elected as such.
Biden is the only person who has beaten Trump, and he’s polling as well as anyone else.
I could go on.
I think he should step down and I want a change for all the reasons being offered, but it’s not a simple and clear decision. It’s just not.
Edit: I realize I responded specifically to you, but meant this as a general pushback. Including to myself to make sure I’m not drinking the koolaid too much.
Late late edit: this is one hell of a week of politics.
Et tu, Barack?
Not endorsing Harris immediately makes sense if they’re really going to an open convention. Biden would be free to endorse whoever emerges.
Right, exactly. Biden seems to be struggling a lot with assessing his own capabilities. It’s really hard to watch.