I also loved the saboteur bit tonight, and how he kept waking them up, making them think he was going to make an important statement, only to just say something like “Expect the Unexpected.”
And I can’t wait to see the look on Brendon’s face when Matt stands up and says he going to use the DPOV. I even hope he does that little hum Jeff did before he used the Power of Coup d’etat last year.
Did Julie blow it when she told the house guests that the saboteur’s job was done? Did she use a pronoun which divulged that the saboteur was male?
Nope. She said “The Saboteur is indeed sitting among you, but I’m happy to tell you that **their **reign of terror is officially over.”
Ha ha! Loved the look on Brendon’s face when Matt played the DPOV.
Okay, thanks for putting my mind at ease on that one. I was thinking that it might mean something down the road if anybody caught her saying “his”.
The fight between Raqan and Ra-tress was a little uncomfortable.
I thought it was crude to invoke waitressing as an insult. There’s a lot of hard working people in the service industry, and it felt like elitist Ragan was belittling them from his Ivory Tower. Not cool.
Spoilers from tonight’s show (which aren’t really spoilers):
I never thought I’d be cheering for Britney to win HoH, but Big Brother…expect the unexpected, right? Hopefully this means Enzo and Hayden are on the block (if she’s friends with Lane, Matt, Ragan and made a deal with Brendon). I really wanted the Brigade to take a hit this week, but alas, they slipped through again. Not to disparage their gameplay, they’re clearly a very capable team, but I always root for the underdog- and I’d much rather see a couple of Ragan/Britney/Brendon sneak through to the final four than have it be all the Brigade.
Also, I know no one has a good word to say about Kathy’s challenge expertise, but she’s a real class act. Good on her.
…made a deal with Brendon
I’m pretty sure she has no intention of honoring her deal with Brendon. I’ll be surprised if she doesn’t put him up.
Yeah, she’s totally putting Brendan up in a heartbeat. But now Kathy’s gone, so who does she put up next to him? Enzo is the obvious choice both for us at home and for Britney in the game, since he and Hayden are closest to Brendan. Britney is closer to Hayden than Enzo, so Enzo goes up. (That’s why Enzo tried so hard for the first time this season, while Hayden and Matt blatantly threw that comp. Hayden is like friggin’ Rain Main with the jedi drilling; he could have gone all night long. Out on the first question? Please. Matt even gave the “thumbs up” when he tanked it. heh.)
What we have to root for is for Brendan to win PoV, which puts Hayden on the block next to Enzo and Enzo goes home. (Please please please please please!)
Britney fans have this one last week, since the only way she survives double eviction is to win PoV during the fast forward. Unless, by some miracle, she manages to pull Matt and Lane in with her and Ragan, but with Matt sending Kathy home the Brigade is likley to be strengthened. As of yesterday her only ally in the house was Lane, and even they started legitimately fighting for a bit, though it was mostly Britney overreacting from PMS. (She took some of their normal playfighting the wrong way and started crying, then was totally over it shortly thereafter. Lane was miserable and hiding in the Have Not room while she cooled down. heh.)
I said in my spoilers that I was fine with production torpedoing Kathy’s game with the sabbie note, but in hindsight I really wish they hadn’t. Without access to DR footage, it really looked like Britney was going home based on Matt’s interactions in the house. Turns out he was targeting Enzo up until the sabbie note, which would have been the awesomest thing in awesometown.
How funny that Britney’s family loves Lane. Remember that they have never liked her fiance, and because he proposed the day she left for BB they found out about the engagement via facebook. Awkward…
I said in my spoilers that I was fine with production torpedoing Kathy’s game with the sabbie note, but in hindsight I really wish they hadn’t.
How was that the fault of the production? Did they specifically tell Ragan to put the note in Enzo’s bed, and even if they did, how is that the production team’s fault if Enzo suspected Kathy?
I really hope Britney puts up Brendon and that he finally gets voted out. He’s got no allies left so it seems pretty clear that if he goes up and doesn’t win POV, he’ll be gone.
It goes back to the pretzel message, which apparently the DR admitted to Matt was against the rules and “they won’t let it happen in future seasons.” But they deliberately let it happen to get Matt on the block so he’d have to use the DPoV. Brendon basically confirmed that the DR was pressing him to put Matt up as replacement.
Once you have the saboteur plant a message, you’re telling the houseguests that the saboteur is allowed to leave messages. (Remember, no houseguests are ever allowed to do writing of any kind, on any season. It’s like Stargate.) That gives new context to pretzel-gate. What conclusion can you draw? A message was left in pretzels, which is a major rules violation. But the sabateur can leave messages. So unless production is incompetent, the saboteur left the pretzel message. The only person who could have planted both messages is Kathy, since she had the HoH key.
Also, Kathy just that day decided to start making other people’s beds. All of a sudden Ragan is now supposed to plant a note? Dollars to donuts production told him to plant it “under somebody’s pillow,” which to Ragan wouldn’t seem weird but in hindsight was a perfect way to directly implicate Kathy. (Production couldn’t have planted the note themselves since there were no lockdowns between Kathy making the bed and Enzo finding the note.)
Ragan isn’t going to sabotage Matt or Britney, and can’t get to HoH. Putting it under anyone else’s pillow has the same effect as putting it under Enzo’s.
Why did Kathy have the HOH key anyway?
I loved that little dance Britney did after she voted.
(Remember, no houseguests are ever allowed to do writing of any kind, on any season. It’s like Stargate.) That gives new context to pretzel-gate. What conclusion can you draw? A message was left in pretzels, which is a major rules violation. But the sabateur can leave messages. So unless production is incompetent, the saboteur left the pretzel message. The only person who could have planted both messages is Kathy, since she had the HoH key.
Wow, I never knew that rule about leaving messages. That helps explain why everyone treated the pretzel thing as such a big deal.
Why did Kathy have the HOH key anyway?
I don’t remember how they got the door open. The houseguests were all banging on the door trying to get it unlocked when they thought Brendon was inside, and then Kathy was in there when Rachel left the pretzel message, but did she open the door? I forget.
I loved that little dance Britney did after she voted.
What was even cooler was how she switched it off when she went through the door. I so want her to win it all!
As someone who has only watched the broadcast this year and has deliberately avoided TWOP-type message boards (which I’ve followed closely in years past), I have to say that I’m rooting for Enzo and Matt. Both of them appear to see the big picture and are looking toward the endgame.
My best example for Enzo would be the goodbye messages to Rachel. Compare his with Britney’s, for example. Enzo gives a nice conciliatory message showing respect for Rachel’s gameplay (even though he might not actually have any) and a message of “no hard feelings”. Britney remained her snarky, immature self and was unable to hold back from taking one last chance to rip Rachel a new one. Now it’s entirely possible that Britney thought that there was no way that Rachel would vote for her in the end, so she might as well get a last jab in there. However, that’s not how a strategic, smart player plays that move. She’s gone, she’s out of the house, she’s a jury member. Why continue to confirm to her that you’re her enemy? For all you know, you could end up in the final two with someone she hates equally and if they had a conciliatory goodbye vs your “go fuck yourself” goodbye, for whom do you think she’ll vote for in the end?
Don’t get me wrong, I like Britney. She’s cute as hell and can be a riot to watch as she mocks the house. But winning competitions is only half the game and I’ve not seen anything out of her that’s stronger than “how can I survive this week?” She seems to look at today and not the last day. That can and has worked in this game before, but if I have the choice to root for someone who has that strategy vs. a detailed idea of how to get the end, I’ll choose the latter every time. That’s just how I think about it.
Matt has clearly had an eye toward the endgame by making sure that he’s got two pretty solid alliances - the Brigade and Ragan/Brit. I was actually impressed with his behavior in the past week because I thought his usual smugness and “Oh so smart” attitude wouldn’t allow him to just lay low and let the cards fall while waiting to use the diamond veto. He won respect from me for that one. I also think he’s closely watching the rest of the house and the rest of the brigade to see where he stands in the hierarchy.
In the end, I’m mainly rooting for the Brigade because I’m overall impressed with their gameplay. Usually, first week alliances die early deaths or get exposed. They’re more than halfway through the game and they’ve mostly played it perfectly. They make up more than half of the house left now, and two of the three remaining people think they’re in tight with at least one of the members. If the Brigade is smart about it, they’ll cut the last three loose without issue because they have a mostly unassailable majority. Will that happen? Probably not. Whomever is the lowest guy on the totem pole will rightly look for other options to get past #4. That will likely be Matt.
Once again, this is the opinion of someone who has followed only the broadcast versions of the show this year. I accept that some of what I say might be incorrect due to inaccurate editing, deliberate omissions on the part of the editors, or DR interference along the way.
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Re: Britney goodbye message only (no other spoilers contained):
FWIW
It is been speculated that the Britney’s goodbye speech is not the one that was shown to Rachel. The producers cut and edited a Diary room confessional right after a fight between Britney and Rachel. Apparently recappers have proof that she was wearing a different outfit on confessional day than the one in the shown goodbye message. Just more production intervention.
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Re: Britney goodbye message only (no other spoilers contained):
FWIW
It is been speculated that the Britney’s goodbye speech is not the one that was shown to Rachel. The producers cut and edited a Diary room confessional right after a fight between Britney and Rachel. Apparently recappers have proof that she was wearing a different outfit on confessional day than the one in the shown goodbye message. Just more production intervention.
Hmmmm…that’s really lame. Is the Thursday show pre-taped or was it just slick editing?
Britney’s goodbye message is not a spoiler because everything to do with it has already aired. So I’m going unboxed.
The produced segments on Thursday shows are just as packaged as Sunday and Wednesday shows. Only the in-studio stuff with the audence is actually live.
What the recappers are referencing is that the houseguests tape goodbye messages on Tuesday. All of them, every Tuesday. It’s easy enough to verify what she was wearing the day of her goodbye message DR. The fight happened very late in the week, during BBAD so that means after DRs for that day. Based on my post about it earlier in the thread, it happened on Tuesday night around 11pm house time.
When Rachel came back in the house, she reamed Britney out for her goodbye message. Britney’s reaction was confusion, maintaining that she left a nice goodbye message. Repeatedly. And Rachel is not shy about going on and on about something that’s bugging her.
I went back and listened to the goodbye messages for Rachel, and Britney does seem quite odd. It’s not structured like a goodbye message at all, but instead looks like one of Britney’s many snark DRs.
It’s pretty clear production screwed Britney with that goodbye message switcheroo.
As someone who has only watched the broadcast this year and has deliberately avoided TWOP-type message boards (which I’ve followed closely in years past), I have to say that I’m rooting for Enzo and Matt. Both of them appear to see the big picture and are looking toward the endgame.
Totally 100% agree with your assesment based on your perspective. I would be exactly where you are. His ineptitude in challenges is really the only thing that broadcast viewers can see. If that were all I saw, I would be right there with you. And as a fan of strategy, I’m totally rooting for the Brigade.
The recappers hate Enzo (the Asshole) for personal reasons only. And since none of those personal reasons are shown on broadcast, the producers clearly want you to feel exactly as you do about him. I said it on the first page: New Jersey is hot right now. On the feeds / BBAD, Enzo is BB11’s Natalie.
As for Britney, the producers gave her a shit edit for the first month of the season, and only now have started to soften it up a bit because of her cuteness with Lane. But then they go and fuck with her game by switching her goodbye message to Rachel, then unleashing Rachel back in the house less than two days later. Seriously, wtf?
So, was there any fallout from Matt’s DPOV speech? He was pretty antagonistic to Brendon. Did they get into it, or did Brendon just go lick his wounds and pine for Rachel?