Big Brother 6 - 8/16

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You know, I don’t expect a huge amount of integrity in this game. I’ve watched too many seasons of it to be that naive. But Jen not only makes a direct promise in front of multiple witnesses, then breaks it by picking folks from the other team, but then breaks it AGAIN by completely turning away from the plan that EVERYBODY IN THE HOUSE agreed on and letting James stay another week while putting Kaysar up! My fucking Og in Heaven…

Seriously, if I were Kaysar, I think I’d spend the rest of my week simply staring at Jen silently every single time she comes out of the HOH room. And when she’s in there, I’d spend the time staring at the cameras I knew were connected to that closed-circuit thingie. Because the only hope I’d have is to make that woman nervous enough to try to drown her sorry middle-aged cheerleader self in the freakin’ pool…

At this point, I’m dead serious now, if they pick off the rest of Kaysar’s group and James is still in the house, I want James to win over any of these completely gormless bitches. I will CHEER for James at the end if he wins over Jen’s team. Because I hate them all. Except maybe Maggie, because at least she feels a little bad about what Jen did (though she’s entirely too happy to have had someone else make that decision…isn’t letting someone else do dirty work that you think needs to be done but don’t want to get your own hands dirty the same thing, ethically, as doing it yourself?).

Absolutely.

Anybody on Jen’s team wins; it’s my last season of this abomination. I liked Dr. Will’s methods of lying. He’s the only one so far whose technique was entertaining. Since then, whatever screening or interviewing this production staff uses only produces the dregs of society. If they just want criminal minds and sociopaths, why not just do the show from some prison?

Thing is: I liked the way Jen was staying under the radar and I was even pulling for her to beat out some of the Big 6. Of course, I wanted Kaysar or Janelle to win the money, but I was less excited about Howie and Rachel and certainly didn’t (and don’t) want James or Sarah to be in the final four. At one point, early on, I thought Maggie was a decent person, but ever since Cappy left I changed my mind about her. The rest of “The Friendship” or whatever they called that group of misfits were of no interest to me.

This blatant disregard for decency has really put me off the entire show. I may not bother with the rest of it.

Then again, it’s about all that’s on TV worth watching during this dreadful desert of entertainment. Come on, Football!

After seeing a commercial following last night’s episode that showed some interesting stuff, my curiosity got the best of me, so I checked in with the Television Without Pity boards to see what’s been going on since the veto stuff happened… (the following spoiler is just about stuff that happened and contains no information about who is voting this way or that)

[spoiler]DAMN. I guess on Monday night many people got drunk and just had it out right there. Janelle and Beau had to be separated because they were getting pretty intense. But Howie …my God, Howie … he RIPPED into April. I actually saw part of that thanks to a file someone put up and he is just going off on April like you wouldn’t believe. It included such lines as “The second I fuckin’ win HOH this week, you’re fuckin’ gone, so just pack your bags!” and “How does it feel knowing that you’re such a horrible player that you can’t win! You’re spending three fuckin’ months on minimum wage away from your husband and for fuckin’ nothing!”

He’s getting really personal. It makes me uncomfortable. Kaysar, on the other hand, seems pretty resigned to his fate. Dammit.[/spoiler]

hey, it makes for good television, as it will be fun to watch the “friendship” crumble and eat itself.

i wante(d )Keysar to stay, but it was a good move backdooring him out as he might have won if he remained. Jen will be out next week if her team does not win HOH but Keysar will be gone… unless there are more secrets that we do not know about…

I can’t imagine another “secret” allowing Kaysar back in for a third go at it. It would be even more blatant than the bending over Survivor did to reward Rupert for being so popular with the viewers. I really liked that exception, but if they do that for Kaysar it will reduce the integrity of the show to nothing, not that it has much now.

I missed the first seaon of BB and think (from what I have heard) that leaving the evictions to the viewers would just be another American Idol styled fiasco where voter bots would ruin the spirit of a “public preference.” But the “backdoor” approach that Nokomis pioneered seems to have pointed to the flaw in the current system. Putting a bandaid on the show’s weaknesses, trying to accomodate the public’s preferences as expressed in the popularity polls at the website, just seems to me to be admitting that the whole concept is about to run out of steam.

All I can say is “I hope so.” This reality TV fad has about burnt itself out.

I’m so angry at that stupid little bitch whose name I can’t even stand to type. I can’t stand her or any of the other members of her group. I mean really, how can they not understand why America didn’t love their dear, sweet Cappy when they’ve made such asses of themselves?

I also will be rooting for James if Howie, Janelle, and Rachel are picked off after Kaysar. Once they’re all gone (including James), I don’t think I can stand to watch anymore.

While people saying “You have my word” or “I swear on my life” may mean something in real life, I wouldn’t think twice about using it to my advantage in a TV reality show GAME where you can win $500K.
While one team can sob about how the other “lied” or “has no integrity” it’s really their own fault to believe somebody on the already known ENEMY TEAM.

It’s Kaysar’s own fault he gave up winning HOH and should now have a big SUCKER tattooed on his forehead.

Jennifer made an ugly, dishonest, dirty move which in reality was brilliant.
This gives her team a 5-3 advantage with a free floating James whose ass they just saved.
If she went by “the plan” and knocked off James they would only have a 5-4 advantage with a blood thirsty Kaysar after them.

Jen set a trap and King Kaysar fell for it.

All’s fair in love and war and the Big Brother house.

I do agree that it’s Kaysar’s own fault, but I don’t think Jen set a trap. She’s not smart enough for that. Beau was the first to suggest evicting Kaysar in a meeting with April, Maggie, and Ivette. Ivette then lobbied for the idea really hard. James made a mawkish plea complete with puppy dog eyes and crocodile tears. Kaysar really didn’t strategize his defense very well, assuming too much and coming across just a bit desperate. I really like Kaysar, but I don’t blame anyone else for his predicament.

That said, the Kunts (as they’re called at the boards) declared that this is their show, not America’s show, and that America can have Kaysar back. Well, thank you very much. You five bitches (I’m including you, Beau) can have fun watching your show. Good luck getting advertising revenue.

Random thoughts:

Kaysar also swore to Eric, then recanted claiming “I didn’t swear on the Quran”. Now he’s mad when someone does the same thing to him. He also said Jen didn’t have the courage to leave James in the game but when she did, he called her a coward. He’s talking in circles.

The “If so and so does this I’m going to make their life a living hell/evict them/get vengence” diary room comments are really old at this point.

People tend to do that. We judge ourselves by our intentions, but we judge others by their behavior.

The only chance I see of Kaysar staying in the game now is if he can somehow convince the rest of Jen’s group that she is as capable of backstabbing them as she was doing it to him. If he could get enough people to evict Janelle instead of him by convincing them that they’re safer with him than with Jen, he could turn the game back in his favor. Otherwise, I believe the final two will probably be James and April–the winner will depend on the makeup of the jury.

I am SO glad Janelle got HoH.

The thing I don’t get is this: Jen announced last night that she hadn’t lied- she just broke her word. (As in, she hadn’t intended to put Kayser up when she made the promise that led Kayser to let go of the button). I’m ok with the distinction, what I don’t get is why it would have been horrible and integrety destroying to lie, but breaking her word was ok. \

Maybe I’m wrong, but I sure got the impression that Jen viewed breaking her word as a much lesser offense than having lied to Kayser would have been. And that’s her priviledge, but I’m not sure that it matters a whole lot to Kayser (or to the rest of the houseguests) since the outcome was the same.

I saw that as a desperate attempt to try to justify it to everyone, as well as herself. I don’t buy that she’s so blase’ about the whole issue. She acts like she doesn’t think she did anything immoral, but you can tell it’s bothering her. She’s acting too cocky, as if she’s compensating for the shame.

Didn’t she say to Kaysar earlier that she had planned to break the deal immediately after making it? Then in the goodbye message, she spouted that crap about not lying, but merely breaking her word.

Sounds like backpedalling to me.

I’ll miss that hot Iraqi. :frowning:

I’ll miss him too. I didn’t watch last night. I knew what was going to happen already, plus I wanted to go to the fair!

Happy to hear Janelle got HOH. As much as Jen screwed things up this week, I still think Janelle should put up Ivette and Maggie. If it weren’t for those two calling the shots for the whole group, I don’t think Jen would have done what she did. I think Janelle, Howie, and Rachel should back off of James for a bit and concentrate on cutting off the head of the real beast.

C’mon now everybody…
If going back on your word / lying works to your advantage then it’s justified in “playing the game”, but as soon as someone pulls it on you it’s immoral???

Didn’t pretty much everyone in this game lie during week one.
“Do you two know eachother?”
“Huh, wha? Never met this person in my life.”

Reasons to lie:
To manipulate and win

Reasons not to lie:
Distrust and revenge of others later in the game.
So you get more votes when your in the final two.
Because it’s immoral (NOT!!!)

yellowval,

This is a double elimination week.
Janelle has already had to put up the people she wanted to put up. I’m ninety percent sure that both people she put up are female, but I can’t remember names (I wasn’t paying that much attention). Veto Competition and elimination will both be shown during Saturday’s show.
Unrelated (and probably unanswerable) question:
Why is it that when Hampshire or NuttyBunny use the word “lying” it looks right; but when I typed it, it looked so wrong that I had to rephrase my sentence so I could use the past tense?

Jen and Maggie

jayjay,
Thank you. It isn’t like I was going to lie awake fretting about it, but I appreciate the information.

Yes, thank you both for the info. I take it the double elimination is this week’s “big twist.” A change in the formula and the timeframe allotted between HOH/nomination/veto/elimination should shake things up a bit. Sounds like Saturday’s show will be interesting. Too bad I’m probably going to miss it again. I always forget about the Saturday show, for some reason. :smack:

A question: Will there be an HOH competition on Saturday and another elimination Thursday night?