UK still has the public voting people out, right? The first season of US had that, too, then they realized that the public was voting out all the interesting (read: annoying, scheming, evil, macchiavellian, conflict-loving) people. Season 2 had moved to houseguest-voting.
This thread is dropping like Ronnie’s credibility!
Seriously, anyone still watching? I was really pissed at Ronnie until the very last comment he made about hoping to backdoor Russell after the veto competition. Think he’ll really do it if it’s possible?
It’s one of the design flaws of Big Brother…there’s entirely too much of it. Of all my reality shows, BB is the most exhausting. Three nights a week is really too much and I get bogged down by the middle of the season.
That said, I am still watching. I have live feed information on that last question…
Ronnie probably isn’t putting Russell up. Jessie asked him not to. And anything Jessie says, Ronnie does. Instead, he’s decided that Jordan wasn’t deferential enough for him because she called him out to his face about lying about his vote. Yeah, that was dumb of Jordan (duh!) but his plan to backdoor HER is petty and personal. Not that that’s much different from business as usual on BB.
I think what Ronnie should have done is put up Jessie and Russell, and make it clear that if one was vetoed, he’d put up another Athlete. He could somewhat deflect any crap he gets from that by just saying that the Jocks have a numerical advantage, and things will be more even if that gets taken care of right now.
But he is way too into his scheming. He could have put up Russell from the beginning, since the Veto is so rarely used. But he likes it better if his real target is blindsided later on. I bet it won’t work for him this time.
I cannot believe he’s so foolish as to think any of the Jocks will be on his side later in the game, or that he can beat any of them in the final, should he make it there by some miracle.
I predict most of the house to scheme against him with the next HoH, and he’s out.
I agree. Unless a Brain wins HoH on Thursday, Ronnie’s on the block. Everybody knows they can’t trust him. The Athletes are treating him well because he has the power, but let’s see how things go after the veto ceremony, when his power is basically over.
Ronnie is one of those people who may have a lot of book smarts (or in his case computer smarts), but to do well at this game you either to be a master manipulator, or be willing to use brute force, winning all the challenges in the process (ala Evil Dick, who didn’t get along with anybody and was a target every week, but still won the game).
As someone here has mentioned the reason people are willing to cooperate with him now is because he is HOH and they want to kiss his ass. And except for the HOH competition he hasn’t done done that well in any of the challenges. It’s possible he’ll make it into the top 5, if he can do a better job of covering his tracks, but I’d be surpised.
Three hours a week is more than I want to commit to – and Ronnie is such a little twit that him being HOH seemed like a good episode to skip. Sounds like I was right about that. 
At our house, we love that BB is on 3 times a week! It saves us every summer when our regular shows are off the air. I actually can’t think of another show we watch regularly right now. (Thank goodness my Entourage Season 5 DVDs just arrived!) On the other hand, I get a lot more reading done over the summer.
I’ll be very surprised if Ronnie lasts more than three weeks from today. He wants to be the master of the game and all, but he’s forgetting one simple fact: It’s only week 2 of the show. You don’t make big, sweeping movements this early - you let the big, brash players go after each other and tear each other apart. Once that’s done, you move in and consolidate power.
Making the bold move of betraying your only alliance in the very first eviction is a rookie move. Now one team feels betrayed and the other knows you’re a snake with almost two months left to go. I could be wrong, but I’m putting my money on “no chance in hell” for Ronnie.
Yeah, I said the same exact thing to my wife last night. Way too early for all the double-agent stuff.
From the live feeds:
[spoiler]Jeff won the veto and took himself off. Ronnie then put up Jordan, pretty much as I predicted.
There was apparently a major blowup as EVERYONE realized that Ronnie was trying to play both sides and was lying like a wall-to-wall rug. I predict that Ronnie is out next week or the one after.[/spoiler]
What’s the reality-show-viewing equivalent of schadenfreude? There’s something really satisfying about watching someone enter one of these games saying “my mad game-playing skilz are so totally beyond what these poor schmucks can muster as a defense,” and then watching them get their ass handed to them virtually immediately.
Skankan’famewhore
Here’s a link to a column on NPR today about Braden’s racist remarks and how CBS censored them:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2009/07/cbs_censors_a_racist_rant_1.html
They seem to do something this every year. I remember a couple of seasons ago there was a huge uproar over stuff that Evil Dick had said. Not that he was made out to be a good guy on the show, but apparently the stuff he said on the live feeds was even worse.
Still I’m surprised the producers didn’t include the racist stuff. My guess is that they were simply afraid of drawing the ire of civil rights organizations.
Interesting article – thanks for the link.
I got a free preview of Showtime this past weekend, how far off is the real time versus the events broadcast on Sunday and Tuesday? I’m asking because I’m sure I heard a person say he/she had won POV on Saturday night – and they didn’t say at that time who was officially on the block. After watching for a bit, I figured out who it was. PS it put me to sleep… good thing it was Saturday night.
Generally, the Thursday show is live, so the evictions and the HOH comps are on Thursday. The nominations are generally Friday. The veto competition is Saturday. And the veto ceremony is Sunday.
Casey and his fake rapper persona make me really, really stabby.
Did I REALLY need to know that, Ronnie?! REALLY?!
Okay, now that I’ve banished that final image from my mind…
This has to be one of the worst-edited episodes for this show EVER…there was SO MUCH that happened on the live feeds that was absolutely crucial to figuring out what was going on and why that they just completely left out, while spending 15 minutes on a coin-counting competition and a clip of Jordan’s dumbness from Week 1. Grodner’s really starting to manipulate the edited shows with a very heavy hand…it’s obvious that she loves the Athletes.