Black are better at music—Or fuck you Diogenes the Cynic

First post new page!
Here’s where the conversation left off:
[post=9756860]Yeah[/post], I think I need some clarification.

Just on a hunch, I did a search on your “small painted wooden duck” line, and it seems that was a line in a BlackAdder episode ( I saw the episode, just forgot that phrase). If that’s where you got it from, I should point out that you did not, in fact, make a joke. What you did was make a partial reference to someone else’s joke - a joke that had no connection to the conversation you dropped it in. It’s a common mistake on the internet, usually happens with Monty Python though.

OK, I’ll explain my fairly lame joke. It does indeed allude to Blackadder. The point of it was to remark in a slightly resigned way that whilst there has been a great deal of fuss about the cunning plan for the boards and how it’s going, it is more sensible just to get on and assume that this place will muddle through as usual.

It’s a jocular allusion because it suggests I resubscribed because of the proffered “wooden duck” - which I obviously did not.

So there was a joke. It was connected to the conversation. And others did not repeat it, because they - like you - didn’t get it.

As for the cowardice, that’s pretty clear. It’s no hassle to start a new thread. You didn’t start one because you wanted to have a pop at a moderator on the sixth page of a Pit thread where hardly anyone would read it, when you could have responded by email if it wasn’t worth its own thread. You put it here to make it public without exposing yourself to the ridicule such a whinge would surely have attracted had you made it a separate thread.

It’s not cowardice. It’s apathy and resignation. I’m not starting a thread up just so a bunch of retards can make hilarious “whine” puns and jokes.

And your joke really doesn’t make any sense. That’s why no one got it and I still don’t get it even after knowing exactly what you are talking about.

You’re wrong. I think that “Black Music” (Jazz, Blues, Soul, Gospel) in America is perceived as being better because of its popularity.

I think it became more popular for a while than traditional Anglo/Germanic/Celtic music because it was different. Different roots (Africa, not Europe), and coming from a different experience (loss, servitude, freedom, persecution, faith, etc.).

An entire generation, maybe even two, fell in love with it and its derivatives (of which Rock is, arguably, but one).

So because it has become more popular than “traditional” Anglo music, it is being perceived as being better. Horseapples. I likes me some rock, blues, and jazz (even Dixieland; I don’t care what some HoloDeck tart says, if you can’t dance to Dixieland, you ain’t tryin’!). I also likes me some Zydeco. And some of that old timey mountain music. And Spanish guitar. Even some of that Polka-style Tejano.

I think the best music is like a good gumbo: lots of ingredients, well seasoned, mixed thoroughly, and allowed to simmer a while so all the flavors can blend.

Techno music was created mostly by black musicians who lived in the detroit suburbs and were heavily influenced by both white and black groups across a huge variety of genres. These same black musicians spent years unable to find an audience in their own city and were kept going by their popularity amongst white europeans. The majority of techno musicians today are white, though many blacks remain prominent.
In other words I think this whole argument is stupid.

Techno sucks.

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No, disco sucks. Techno blows.
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I hear they run real well too. Too bad they’re more likely to be stupid.

How else can they survive, dumb as they are?

You guys are fucking racist, man.

And your still hard headed. Don’t ever change. :wink:

Who appointed you a moderator in ATMB? Skip’s notes to you were because of your criticism of other posters.

If you thought the comments of other posters were inappropriate, the proper course was to report the posts, not play junior moderator, as you were doing.

To which you replied, continuing to both play junior moderator and, rather ironically, dispute the instructions of an actual moderator in an inappropriate forum:

Despite all this, you chose to make the following comment in a different thread, after **Skip’s **very specific instructions to knock it off:

Given your deliberate ignoring of a moderator’s instructions, you are extremely lucky I did not give you a formal warning for it.

No, they are mocking you for not being able to admit that you were wrong about some of the things in this thread. You have it coming to you for the mish mash of your argument.

You really don’t like being wrong. Your pleasure is in pointing out to others that they are wrong.

I’m pretty sure he gets it.

This I agree with.

I wasn’t wrong.

given that you live in minnesota, it seems pretty unlikely that you’ve ever actually heard real techno music, but I’ll pass your well wishes along to Juan Atkins and Derrick May nonetheless.

Hey Dio, since you’re back in the thread, mind answering the following question?

I’m not sure. It’s claiming some kind of effect on right brain/left brain dominance but I don’t know exactly what. It doesn’t matter because my point remains that I never claimed a genetic influence.

Since it’s not genetic, do you believe this aptitude for music applies to all black people or only black people in some places? Black people the world over don’t share the same cultural experiences. What do black people in Nigeria and black people in, say, New Orleans have in common that make them both predisposed toward music excellence?

It just seems like you’re taking your own preference for certain types of mainly black influenced music genres and using that as proof that black people make all the good music. Anything that doesn’t jive with that notion you simply dismiss as being bad music, or trace the influences back only as far as is convenient to your theory and then stop.