I’m not looking for a debate here. If one starts in this thread I won’t be a major participant. I’m just curious where the British dopers lie on this issue at this stage. Obviously the exact date we’ll be asked the question, and the exact terms of what we’ll be asked about are still up in the air but based on your best guess of how it will turn out, what is your gut answer?
No pie? I want pie!
I’m not a Brit, but I hope they stay. It seems to me that if there is a path to world peace, then things like the European Union are among the early steps on that path.
I don’t understand the last option: “I’m not British but want easy access to the poll.”
Anyone can view the Poll results; what do these people get?
Once you’ve voted in a poll it will then stay inline on the thread and will be there immediately should you open the thread again. Clicking view poll results creates a new window, and has to be done again should you wish to see the poll later. A minor annoyance, but one I like to give an option to avoid if all the real options don’t cover everybody.
Sadly I think all the non-USAians have abandoned this forum until the noise dies down in, oh, late 2017 or something.
Put me down as spake Chronos: This USAian thinks it better for the world that Britain stays in. And IMO better for Britain too. I say that as somebody who follows British & EU affairs pretty closely.
I agree the EU needs serious reform.
Living in a non-British EU country and seeing what a hash they make of applying extant EU regulations while cheering for more makes me antsy. There’s bad faith: the UK honours its treaties and suffers, while many other EU countries pay lip service to EU regulations while doing their own thing.
And the euro is a disaster.
But I still don’t think we’ll be better out of it.
The hand-waving of exit supporters (I despise ‘Brexit’ as a term) that the UK will be able to carve its own trade agreements with people they just insulted is naive. Better to try to push for reform from inside the tent. It’s a cock-up but better than the alternative.
As always, I seem to end up as an outlier.
I am British and in all reality won’t have a vote, despite it probably affecting me more than most Brits. Basically, I’ve lived in another EU country for too long and hence have to move back to get my right to vote back (you lose it after fifteen years out of the country).
Presumably you qualify for citizenship of your host country by now (Sweden IIRC), don’t you?
Dear Britain: Stay in the EU, but DO NOT give up the Pound.
Best regards,
Your American cousin
Negotiations between Cameron and the EU have only just finished. What Cameron has got will seem very poor to Brexit fans:
The devil will be in the detail, of course. So asking us for an opinion right now is a little premature.
I’m voting to leave, no doubt it would trigger a second referendum in Scotland, but if that’s the price to pay for a more independent rUK, then so be it.
I am British (And Australian, dual citizen). I will vote to stay. As others have said the UK can do far more by pushing for reform of the EU inside it than they can outside it. Also, the EU is too important to let fail or fall apart. Other communities of nations are planning similar integration, eg ASEAN eventually plans a currency union and open borders. This is a good trend and it should continue.
It won’t. The possibility of the UK exiting the EU was well known at the time. We voted in full knowledge of the fact.
I’m stating that if the UK voted to leave the EU, it almost definitely will trigger a second referendum for the Scots to have independence and to remain in the EU.
But I bet alot of those countries have better border controls.
However much Sturgeon et al may press for one, I do not think it would happen. If the UK votes to leave the EU then Cameron’s out and his likely replacements aren’t the idiots he is.
I disagree, the prospect of an exit from the EU means that extenuating circumstances have come into play, in which there is a legitimate reason for a 2nd referendum, and this time they will leave.
I’m sorry, but we voted to stay in the Union of Kingdoms in the full knowledge that the Union might end up outside the European Union.
Politically, the successor to Cameron isn’t going to want to go down in history as the PM who lost the Union.
We will (I hope), and we won’t (ever).
That would be a political inevitability once the UK left the EU.