Giles showed the troll a picture of Lt. Frank Pemberton. Just kidding. Giles has been referred as “Jack” or “The Ripper” by his fellow Watchers. In that half-second, he probably showed the servant that this human is the baddest monster of all.
No. That sentence has been impossible since they killed Doyle off.
(There’ve been GOOD episodes, but no GREAT ones.)
Bob, do you write bad fan fics? I usually don’t, but… on another Message Board I go to they’re pretty popular, so my on-going one there is BTVS:2011. A silly farce involving people who drive mini-vans while using cellphones turning into zombies, and trying to get Buffy to come back to Sunnydale… It’s more fun than I though.
I’m always amazed at the way the show twists. And dammit, Tara has to get better, we just started getting to know her, after all…
I’m with Alzarian on one point… Giles had something up his sleeve, perhaps literally. That demon caved, and caved hard, in an instant. I don’t know what he did, but I’m sure it was cool.
The scene with Willow floating in, all tarry-eyed and shooting lightning bolts, entrapping a goddess in her magics… folks, that wasn’t popguns. It may not have been enough to carve up a deity, but it was an impressive display nonetheless. “I owe you pain!” Oh, yeah. And this from a girl with a thing for fuzzy kitten sweaters. My kinda woman.
Thank you mrvisible for mentioning the lightning bolts. See, she wasn’t totally helpless [sub]she just ran out of lightning bolts[/sub].
Like some of the others, I really can’t see the scoobies winning this without either some a) deus ex machina “key powers” or b) some deus ex machina magic spell. I do, on the other hand, have faith in Whedon, so I’m curious to see what we end up with.
OTOH, we have seen Buffy hold her own against Glory for, say, 30 seconds at a time, so I can see a crossover special at the end as I say that between Buffy, Angel, Spike, and Faith (who has evidently repented and become the good bad girl), they may just be able to bludgeon Faith into submission.
Of course we all know this won’t happen either…
That being said, I revert to my former statement, that the portal to Glory’s dimension will be opened, and she’ll summon the army of darkness that’s been alluded to in past episodes of Angel. Then it’ll be the two slayers and the two vampires, plus all scoobies and sidekicks vs. the forces of evil.
And it’ll be on UPN… :rolleyes:
I write fanfic occasionally (I’m that odd creature, the writer who started out pro and then discovered fanfiction, instead of the other way around). Mostly anime stuff – if anyone’s interested, you can check my small portfolio out at http://www.eclipse.net/~rms/misc.html.
Sounds… odd. And funny… Got an archive? I just might want to browse through your story.
– Bob
This was the first Buffy I have seen in weeks, and it made me want to hurt Glory. Why couldn’t Willow have found the damn Necronomicon and summoned Yog-Sothoth or a few hundred Shoggoths to take Glory on? Sigh.
Exactly.
“Hey, you, the girl with the tar in her eyes…” <grin>
True. But even so, she should at least be able to petition for an intervention from the various dieties she invokes for things as trivial as light spells. Lightning bolts are cool – and yes, they were doing a number on Glory until Willow ran out of gas – but they’d pale next to a physical manifestation of one of the goddesses Willow routinely calls upon.
No argument there. Willow’s on her own Campbellian “hero’s journey” now, I think.
– Bob
Because Glory is probably their second cousin, twice removed, and they won’t go up against family. <frown> That’s actually something I was thinking a few weeks back. Glory is basically an HP Lovecraft critter filtered through the pages of Vogue, you know…
– Bob
There is precedent for the “deus ex machina” resolution to their problems. Remember how they defeated Adam?
Now that it seems that they are going on the Lam starting next week, I wonder if Willow will remember to bring Amy (You know, the mouse. That is her name, right? I’m going from memory) along. I’d hate to see her starve in her cage.
Arrgh. Any of you living in L.A. that has a copy of Tuesday’s BtVS? I didn’t get to see it, and it sounds like I really missed out.
spoiler alert
Apparently, a key character on the show is supposed to die, so that may be Tara. Also, the guy who helped Dawn with her spell for her Mom is supposed to turn out to be even worse than Glory when it comes to the whole end-of-the-world thing. He ends up getting enlisted, I think, to help in the fight against Glory.
I thought the key character that was supposed to die was Joyce.
I’m sure I’ll have to revive this thread on Sunday. I know I shouldn’t have read this thread before Saturday (when it airs my my area), but curiousity got the better of me. Now I can’t WAIT to watch it! At least Angel is on tonight. It should hold me over.
Anyone else read the E! Online interviews? According to Sarah Michelle Gellar, this season has an ending that no one will expect, and it even shocked her when she read it. Joss Whedon said he’s had this season ender planned since the middle of the third season.
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The guy who helped Dawn with her spell is played by the ultra-fabulous Joel Grey, and yes, he will appear in the season-ender, which is also the 100th episode of BtVS. Riley will also return for that episode.
Amy is a rat, not a mouse. Much more dignified.
And I’ve never liked Tara either. Probably because I’m jealous. I want Willow, dammit!.
Did anyone notice how Tara “boosts” everyone’s powers and/or abilities?
To start with Tara and Willow were trapped in the laundry room. Willow was having no luck blocking the door. They hold hands and bam the pop machine slams across the room. And they are safe. Also the Evil Willow Vampire Chick from the Alternate Sunnydale was a trés kinky bi-girl. Angel said at one time something like “yeah, it was in you to start with. The vampification didn’t put more evil in, it just let it come out.” Then he got a mean look from Buffy and back-pedalled.
Xander (the Butt-Monkey…HA! I love that) and Anya were having a fight after Buff and Riley broke up. Buffy was kinda concerned about it, but when she was alone with Tara, she fell to pieces. It seemed outside her character to react like that. Foreshadowing?
Oz wolfed out when he was alone with Tara. Yeah, he was pissed she snagged his chick (and she smelled like Willow- werewolf senses, gotta love 'em) but it was day-time and he had the Zen training and stuff. Did I mention it was DAY-TIME?
And Tara’s family said she was demonesque. The big show-down scene where the family walks away after Spike pops her in the nose really didn’t prove anything. His chip going off just meant he thought she was pure people.
Who knows where Joss is taking Tara, and the rest of the gang. (Spoilers not withstanding)
And Spike? How long before he burns out his chip? Where’s he going next year? Unless he dies of course.
Did anyone here see “Year of Hell” on Star Trek: Voyager? (In my defense, it was the only episode I’ve seen in 3 years) Janeway and crew got their collective ASSES kicked for a year (or 2 hours. Depends on how you look at it) and in the end, that year never happened. When Dawn’s key-ness is exploited, she could be taken back out of the world as thoroughly as she was put in. Everything could be re-set to the beginning of the season: Joyce is back, Tara is O.K., Spike’s character devolves, Giles is back on the outs with the Watcher’s Council, etc. [THIS IS ALL CONJECTURE ON MY PART. Not a true spoiler. I know NOTHING about the upcoming episodes except what I’ve seen on the commercials(They wreck a Winnibago)]
Yeah, I’ve seen a couple of episodes. Did you see the one where it was revealed the Giles set up the blue demon bounty hunter guy with his wife (not Giles’ wife, Rupert was a matchmaker) from his “Ripper” days? Or how wild he got when he and Joyce where young-ified from spell laced candy? And when Willow was made, like, a hooker-ghost that Halloween episode? (Yowza!)
Lyllyan said:
I feel the same way about her. I don’t hate her, but she’s so listless that I can’t really like her. She’s also the only character I could bear to lose.
Alzarian said:
When I saw this I thought you were going to mention how Giles knew the lackey was behind the door in the first place. AFAIK, only Buffy can sense demons. How did he know it was there? I definitely think there’s more to Giles than we’ve been told.
capacitor: When has Giles been referred to as Jack? I don’t remember that.
KKBattousai said:
This is my prediction for the finale: Buffy dies (“death is your gift”) to kill Glory. Ben takes over the body and he and Doc (Joel Grey’s character) bring her back to life. Again. But only in the opener of season six.
I too really like the relationship between Spike and Dawn. He seems to be the only person she trusts completely, besides Tara.
Anyone else catch this flaw in the recent episode? Everyone else who has undergone the Glorificus mind-suck has undergone significant personality changes, becoming less dynamic, more simple, etc. Whereas post-suck Tara was just as vapid and lifeless as pre-suck.
And you overlook the common knowledge that midget drip candle monks suffer a terribly itching rash when exposed to twine. (Recall, Boss Giles disn’t ask for “someting to tie him up with.” He specifically asked for “that twine on the counter.”) (Actually, I thought it just showed that the monks are really toadying weenies – nothing but suckups to Glory. I don’t recall them ever doing anything other than talk tough - at least not one-on-one. Even when they chased Spike and fought Buff and the gang, there were 3 of them, and afterwards they acted like the shat their robes.)Oh yeah, Giles knew he was there because he heard the pus from mini-monk’s oozing sores dripping on the doorstep. (Enjoying your lunch?)
SPOILER ALERT - the season finale features a guest appearance by Dr. Spock, who does a mind meld on Tara and Riley to see if they cumulatively add up to one complete personality between the two of them. At least if Riley comes back, it must mean I can book that trip to Belize.
BTW, in case it is not obvious from this post, I really, really REALLY like this show!
He wasn’t. Nor was he ‘The Ripper’ he was simply Ripper - a rather more sinister variation on Rupert (his first name for the newbies).
Those are the words I was looking for! Vapid and listless describes Tara to a T.
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Actually, no. That was one of the “KK’s VCR decides to stop taping shows while working perfectly fine for everything else” episodes, I’m guessing.
On the other hand, I have since resolved those problems. Heloise check your email.