Can the Cubbies do it??

As of today, the Cubs have a one game lead in the NL Central (2 in the win column) over Milwaukee. The burning question: Can the Cubbies do it??

In the Cubs favor:

  1. They finish against Cincinnati (2 series), Pittsburgh and Florida; Milwaukee has Houston, Atlanta, St. Louis, and San Diego.

  2. The Cubs have two games in hand, both wins, forcing Milwaukee to win both times they play extra games (Atlanta and San Diego, in effect).

  3. The Cubs have rest days next Thursday and the following Monday, whereas the Brewers play 17 straight days to finish the season.

In Milwaukee’s favor:

  1. They finish with seven at home, while the Cubbies go on the road.

Well, what do the TM think? Will the Cubbies pull this out so they can follow the path of the Cardinals to the World Series? :eek:

Things definitely seem to be pointing more in the Cubs favor at the moment. Both teams seem unable to either pull away or completely collapse, so I figure that this will go to down to the final week, but the extra games and the off days for the Cubs eshould serve as a nice cushion. The Brewers unfortunately had their moment in the sun back in April and May and haven’t ever been able to recapture that magic. The Cubs got off the mat after that horrible start had a very nice run mid summer and seem to be doing “just exactly enough” to stay in front. Nothing really flashy, just enough to stay ahead of the Brewers.

The Cardinals run last year was a once in a couple of decades perfect storm. I’d be very surprised to see the division winner get past the wild card round and shocked to see them advance to the World Series. The Cubs do have the advantage of solid veteran leadership and managerial “genius” (for what its worth) much like the Cardinals did last year. The Brewers lack this. Plus, if it is the Brewers who come back to win the division, I think they’ll be so exhausted from the fight up the hill they’ll end up going home quietly in the post season.

Well, they’re a deeply flawed team (with some strengths) in a weak division in what is likely a weak league, so they certainly have a shot. Victor Zambrano needs to start pitching like the guy who signed that extension in August tho…

I think they can win the Division, but getting out of the first round seems very unlikely this year.

Any relation to Carlos? :slight_smile:

(ETA: Afte posting this, I had to look it up and find out. According to Wikipedia, Victor, who is currently with the Orioles, is “often mistaken to be related to Cubs pitcher Carlos Zambrano. Both Carlos and Victor Zambrano are Venezuelan.”)

A couple weeks ago, I thought the battle for the division would be between the Cardinals and the Cubs. Since then, though, the Cards have run out of steam (though they continue to struggle valiantly on—in this weekend’s four-game series, Chicago and St. Louis looked pretty evenly matched). So I’ll give 'em the division. After that, though…

'doh.

Well they pretty much sealed the Cardinals’ fate this weekend, which counts for something.

I’d like to think so, but I can’t help thinking that the Dumpster will not allow that to happen. They really need to replace him.

Will they make the playoffs? Yes.

Will they ultimately disappoint the faithful? Yes.

Baseball Prospectus right now calculates the Cub’s odds of making the playoffs at a shade over 70%. Now would be the perfect time for a collapse.

If they get in, the postseason rotation is likely Zambrano, Lilly, Marquis, and Hill (unless they can trim to a 3-man rotation). Lilly and Marquis are fairly consistent, and Zambrano appears to have put his post-extension funk behind him. Carlos is clearly the key; when he’s on, he’s great, but he doesn’t seem to pitch well after a play goes against him (bad call, fielding error, etc.), and his short temper often hinders his performance. Hill is also a key man; his breaking ball is excellent, but if he can’t get it over his fastball is pretty mediocre, and he gets torched. Overall though he’s better than his record indicates–I think he has the lowest run-support in the NL–but it does all depend on his one good pitch.

Hitting is another issue, and I’ve never seen a contending team as streaky at the plate as this year’s Cubs. Soriano at the top is a huge enigma; he isn’t really a lead-off guy, but he doesn’t seem to bat as well in other lineup slots (I know, it shouldn’t matter, but it seems to). Lee and Ramirez are feast-or-famine, and when both of them slump, this lineup just can’t get it done (Jaques Jones’ incredible August–where he was carrying the team for a few weeks–was far more important than most fans realize, but IMO it was a fluke). But IMO DeRosa and Theriot are the real barometer–if they don’t get on base, it’s unlikely the Cubs score more than 2 runs a game.

Do they have a chance? They are starting to click at the right time, and anything’s possible in the playoffs, but a lot of things have to go right for them to win the NL (the Mets alone are a formidable challenge), and I just can’t see them competing with any of the expected AL opponents.

Finally, this tidbit: In the Sunday NYT, there was a feature about the Cubs/Cards rivalry which included the following quote from DeRosa: “What’s amazing is, I find myself in the middle of a game thinking about people sitting in sports bars and living rooms in the Chicago area, and how we can’t let them down, that kind of thing…I’ve never played in any city where I thought about that. Here, it’s like you’re playing for everyone who’s struggled with this team. If we blow this lead, about 700 sports bars will be going into an absolute tirade.” I appreciate the thought, but that’s the kind of mind-set that could lead to collapse if something goes wrong at a key moment (see: The Bartman game). I’d feel a lot better if these guys weren’t so weighed down by Cubs history…

No. Sorry.

Uh, no. Nope. No way. Not gonna happen. No siree. No way, no how.

I was at the Brewers/Reds game on Friday evening. Since Ned Yost still seems to be unable to resist any opportunity to screw up a game, I think the Scrubs have a shot at the division.

OMG, I laughed so hard at this!!! :smiley:

Who would the Cubs play first, assuming they make it? Will it be the West champs? I’d assume so, since it appears the Wild Card will be from the West as well (though that’s no lock). If so, I’d like to think the Cubs could make it out of the divisional series.

Keep in mind that the Cubs are 15 games above .500 since the end of May (IIRC). That’s not bad playing. The Mets are only 18 over for the whole season.

No, it’s too soon. When the probability hits 95% or 99%, that will be the perfect time.

It’s hit 95%.

I wanna see the Rockies win the WC.

If they could do it, they wouldn’t be the Cubs. :wink: But yes, they’ll probably make the playoffs.

The Mets or the Diamondbacks, it’s impossible to say for sure. Assuming the Cubs make it, they will almost definitely have the worst record of the three division winners. So they will play the Diamondbacks if San Diego wins the wild card, or the Mets if Philadelphia wins the wild card. Right now, San Diego is up by 1/2 game and has one more game to play than Philly does.

The World Cup?? :smack:

Amazingly, looks like the Cubs will be playing the Phillies in the first round.

Well, we have our answer! Part of it, at least! :slight_smile:

Now, it’s a three game sweep of Arizona, then a ferocious tussle with the Rockies, and then ON TO THE SERIES!!! :smiley: :smiley: