So I’ve read all of the scumbags posts. I see people actually trying to debate with him on his rhetoric of hate and skewed statistics from racist websites.
I ask you who even talk to him:
Why bother?
The Captain is trying to justify hating people for the color of their skin. Which is ironic, because to justify would mean to somehow have a logical reason for hating, and there is no logical reason to hate someone for something as meaningless as skin color.
I suggest we simply not pander to this nonsense. I generally am not one to stick my head in the sand, but it it’s to avoid the smell of shit, I will do so every time.
Yer pal,
Satan
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Normally I might agree with you – but perhaps I am still wincing because I wrongly felt that Captain Ed was Mikey in his next disguise.
Here’s my thought, though: suppose, arguendo, race were a factor in behavior - that one race were more prone to violence and crime than another. How would one go about proving it?
I suggest that one method might be to cull statistics of violent criminal offenders. Cap Ed (or his source websites) have done that.
I think dismissing the issue with, “He’s a racist scumbag,” is inappropriate. (Well, maybe it’s appropriate for The Pit).
I think it then becomes incumbent to provide a more plausible explanation for the skewed numbers – undoubtedly, there are explanations aplenty, since I am convinced that race is NOT a factor in violent or criminal tendencies.
But if I stand on that conviction, rather than defend and develop arguments supportive of my view… how am I different from the fundies?
I figured that if I only fed the troll statistics and logic it would be OK. I didn’t realize he’d get so big- Do we have to flush him?
I still stand by my assertion that Mikey/Phaedrus/FormerAgent/TheFinder/KM2 are all the same person, or at most two people. Their sources, styles, and arguments are too similar.
I agree that Mikey, FormerAgent, and TheFinder are all the same people. Frankly, I think Phaedrus is someone different, but I haven’t paid that close attention to threads in which he’s been involved.
But as to Capt. Ed, I can assure you that he lives where he says he does, and that he’s either a retired navy officer, in his late sixties, or he deserves an Academy Award.
As to the plagarism comment, Capt. Ed tells me he was booted from another board for “copyright violations” when he posted cited, quoted material. My view is that the “copyright violations” were a thinly-disguised attempt to get rid of a troublemaker who was posting unpopular race opinions.
In any event, as a result of that, he had not quoted exactly or provided cites. I offered him my opinion that on this board, he could safely post fair-use cites, links, and attribute them without fear of being booted for copyright violations.
I hope I’ve not misrepresented our communication, Capt. Ed; if I have, please chime in. And I hope you don’t mind my sharing that piece of information.
No matter how much we might disagree with the Captain, he is at least attempting to provide evidence for his position. I have no way of knowing whether all of these incidents actually took place, but (unfortunately) can confirm a couple of the Chicago crimes.
Captain, is your point that White on Black crime more likely to be characterized as a hate crime than Black on White crime, or is it your point that Blacks commit more crimes than Whites? In either case, even if you have accurately summarized these cases, I suspect your sample is too small to draw any positive conclusions. If your point is that Black on White crime doesn’t get press, I think you have defeated your own argument, as a previous poster has already pointed out.
The only thing that was threatened of Mikey’s was his house of cards lying, which was on the verge of being exposed.
I will admit I’m madder at myself than anything, though, for being so hypersensitive to lies that I leapt on Captain Ed without checking. But I stand by my assertion that Mikey was making things up.
And the shame of it was… he didn’t need to. He could have posed his question as a hypothetical and gotten much the same response.
Sorry, I have to go with Bricker on this one. The assertion, accompanied with the above mentioned statistics, that one race may be prone to violence is not per se evidence that the assertor is a racist.
To the contrary, I would tend to agree that this is indeed the case. I just can’t necesarily tell if that is what is being arguued since the Cap’n tends to jam all of his various and widely diverging assertions into each and every post.
If you want to pin him for being a racisist, why not focus on the crack about blacks all being inbred because the tend to amass in apartment projects and can’t tell to whom they are related. I doubt that one can back up the latter part of the statement with any solid stats.
Pin him for being a racist?!?! He freely admits it! He can’t even get through a fictitious anecdote without projecting his racist bile on imaginary characters. I just wish he’d make a cogent argument so it could be properly dismantled instead of posting out-of-date stats and vague assertions about being run out of New York.
We are all inferring it from his posts, yet he has not had the courage to even say something like “I believe that blacks are more violent than whites” or that “Blacks are free to commit hate crimes against whites, since they are not looked down upon as much.”
The guy needs to make a statement one way or the other. He has “evidence” but no conclusion.
Wonderful. That will make the problem go away, won’t it? At the risk of being branded a racist, I have to defend Captain Ed to a certain extent. Like him or loathe him, you have to admit he does take the time to present facts and statistics to back his opinions. Skewed? Sure, but at least he takes the time to do it. And yet the common response, instead of intelligent discussion, is “you’re a racist, you suck”. I think a serial killer (or worse yet, a troll) would have a better chance at a fair trial on this board than a rascist.
One of the things I enjoy about this board is that most of the people are well educated and intelligent. But most of us have dropped the ball on this one.
For example, has anyone considered why he displays this behavior? He is probably older, when it was ‘more acceptable’ to have these beliefs. This doesn’t excuse it, but at least you have an insight on the behavior.
Even the title of this topic is appaling. “Captain Ed- racist Scumbag”? Satan, I know you can do better than this. And look on the bright side, he’ll be one more resident of hell when all is said and done.
Seriously, folks, I’m disappointed in you on this one. Is PC such an ingrained element in our socity that we can’t even talk about this?