No, the scene where Goose [spoiler]horks up the Tesseract has to be set earlier, doesn’t it? The monitor on Fury’s desk is one of those huge early-2000s models.
Besides, they have that same Tesseract out in Age of Ultron, using it as a power source.[/spoiler]
Goose coughs it up in time for Fury to give it to Selvig to experiment on.
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I loved the movie. It wasn’t super deep, but it was emotional and powerful and fun. Funny, too, without too much stupid-funny.
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Just saw it – loved it. Not quite the top tier of the MCU, IMO, but still a very solid entry. Compared to the other single-hero origin movies, I liked it as much as CA:TFA and Spider-Man Homecoming, better than Ant-Man and Doctor Strange, a lot better than Thor and The Incredible Hulk, and close to Iron Man and Black Panther (but a half-tier below them).
Saw it and really liked it. Importantly the wife enjoyed it too, so points there. I’m growing a little tired of the Ragnarok-esque snark in these movies, or maybe I’m just prefer my comic relief to be relief, not just straight up comedy. This movie reeled it back in just enough I think, even if the stakes never really felt that high. I really dug the final scenes when she went all super sayian.
Perhaps the most remarkable thing was how well the de-aging effects worked. I expected it to be GotG2 level distracting, full on uncanny valley, but it actually was almost flawless. The only time you could tell that Fury was being played by a 70 year old was when he had to fight or run.
I’ve just seen it, and a couple of thoughts: REAL SPOILERS AHEAD
So, they’ve set up the Skrull as good guys - or, at least, as being refugees who are being oppressed. As an old-school comic reader, that’s really startling. The best they’ve come off, in things that I’ve seen, is in The Death of Captain Marvel when the Skrull general came to Captain Marvel (the Mar-Vell one) and gave him the Skrull Empire’s highest award. Usually they’ve been out-and-out bad guys.
Oh, and speaking of Mar-Vell…in the movie, Mar-Vell is a woman, not super-powered but a Kree scientist who came to Earth to study the Tesseract. That’s really gonna piss off the misogynist set of old-school comic fans; all to the good, if you ask me.
Monica Rambeau was 11 in this movie, so she’ll be in her early thirties by the time Carol comes back. Just in time to be a superhero herself.
So, now that’s three supers created with the use of the Tesseract/Space Stone. Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, and Captain Marvel. It’s just a busy little hunka’ stone, isn’t it?
Soon as I saw Goose, I knew that’s how Fury would lose his eye, even before word leaked that he was a Flerkin. And the ‘Flerkin’ effects are straight from the comics, which I wasn’t expecting.
Overall, well worth seeing, if you’ve been following the MCU at all. Fairly light, well-acted, well written. The music was a bit of a disappointment; there were no iconic themes, and the pop picked to go along usually…just didn’t work.
Saw it at a preview (release has been delayed here for a week).
It was truly mediocre and only the acting skills of Jude Law and Samuel L Jackson saved it from being dire.
It had 5 writers. It showed. We got basically Guardians Lite, rather than what we should have got, which was Top Gun in the 1990’s.
Brie Larson’s acting was also sub par.
For comparison here is Samuel L Jackson in the real 1995
(that years Kiss of Death Kiss of death 1995 samuel l jackson hi-res stock photography and images - Alamy)
I saw it and really liked it - it was definitely rote as all the Marvel movies are but enjoyable. It’s in the upper echelons of Marvel movies for me.
Brie Larsen did a fantastic job and the sheer joy when she comes into her own is amazing! The scenes with her and Sam Jackson were a lot of fun. I really enjoyed all of the female relationships in the movie and the lack of sexualization of any of the female characters. The added note of “you’re too emotional” was perfect and depressing at the same time.
The film also set up the entire Avengers initiative quite well.
De-aging for Coulson bothered me quite a bit. De-aging for Fury seemed to work much better.
I’m wondering something about where she gets her power from…
Does she get her power from the space stone? The power core in her aircraft was channeling power from the Tesseract, and that’s what “gave her her powers.” Did it just make her super-powered in her own right, or is she just the power core now, and she’s channeling power from the space stone? If the former, fine, she’s definitely a heavy-hitter, but if the latter, is that going to cause problems when Thanos waves his gauntlet at her? Has he been walking around this whole time thinking “Dang, there’s some kind of power leak on the space stone… gotta look into that… maybe I could just give it a good yank”
Also…
If the Skrull needed the Tesseract to power a light-speed drive, that kind of implies that the cruiser they were going to use it in doesn’t have one. How’d it get here?
I enjoyed this movie pretty well.
The good: Brie Larson, Samuel L. Jackson, and Goose. Larson’s humor was primarily in expressions and voice tones, but she made me giggle a lot, and I wasn’t expecting that humor. Jackson was hilarious as always; and I thought he and Larson were great fun together.
I watched it with my cat-loving 10yo daughter, and Goose was a huge hit.
The bad: the action scenes were pretty blah. Afterward I was talking with my nephew about how good the action scenes were in Ant-Man (at least he was talking; I’ve not seen it), and it occurred to me that it’s a lot easier to make creative action scenes when your superhero has a piddly power than when they’re Awesome At Everything. Captain Marvel could just punch, blast, or torpedo her way through any enemy, and honestly, where’s the fun in that?
But the stuff with Jackson, Larson, and Goose was good enough that I had fun.
They already have jump points, but a lightspeed drive would free them from needing to use those. At the moment, they’re limited to jump points and it takes time to get to them, plus there’s a limit on how many jump points sane people go through at once (see GotG2). Lightspeed engines mean you no longer have those limitations.
My question:
How did the Skrull know that “Vers” held the secret to the Tesseract’s location in the first place?
I watched it a second time so I could see it without being rushed. I liked it even better.
One thing that I liked is that I didn’t get the feeling I was watching the same plot I’ve seen a million times.
The second time around, the background “gaslighting” theme was much more apparent.
The acting was generally fine. And the flashback format of the plot worked well.
Is this a no-spoiler thread? I guess I’ll do it to be sure.
Sometimes the blatant “heh heh the ‘90s, right?” Bits were slightly too much, but they didn’t ruin it.
[spoiler]Stan Lee reading the “Mallrats” script!
I had only a vague awareness of the Kree-Skrull situation, but I quite liked the food guy-bad guy twist.
Annette Bening! I can’t recall the last time I saw her in something. Good choice.
The origin of the eye bit was cute.
I can’t say I’m all that happy about de-aging actors routinely.
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If my memory serves me correctly it was an educated guess after they recognized CM’s powers as having the same energy signal as the tesseract.
In part I think the second viewing was better because the fan premiere event crowd was really annoying—laughing too hard at little jokes and applauding every appearance on screen. For Pete’s sake Coulson and the reds react practically got standing ovations
Maybe you could put it down to years of incremental intelligence gathering?
Also wasn’t there possibly some kind of contact between Mar-Vell and the Skrulls?
I enjoyed it overall. I’d put it above the average Marvel movie (and Marvel movies on average are quite entertaining), but below the very top tier (Winter Soldier, Avengers) and maybe a bit below the tier right below that (Iron Man, Civil War).
Specific opinions:
Good points:
-Acting, casting, humor
-I really liked how the amnesia thing circled back. It seemed like it was going to be nonsensical or forced or ridiculous, but it resolved nicely
Bad points:
-Confusing CGI fight scenes
-Overly complex backstory. Have we seen the Kree before? Their leader got danced-off at the end of GotG, right? Were they that big peaceful civilization in GotG? Have we seen the Skrull before? They seem a bit like the bad guys from some Thor movie, but maybe just because we’ve so many creepy demon-eared races at this point?
Some apparent plot holes and/or things that were unclear to me:
-How did she end up back on earth? So she’s captured on this raid, and then she’s being memory-probed aboard a Skrull ship, then gets in an escape pod and escapes, and… lands on earth? When did the Skrull ship go to earth, and how did they know to?
-How is faster-than-light travel going to end war? Even ignoring the unclearness of FTL vs Warp, it’s not like you can invent a galaxy-changing innovation, give it to one group of refugees who need it right now, and have it stay secret. Is there some reason why a galaxy with FTL travel will have less war? I’d think just the opposite if anything.
-Do some Kree look human? How? And if not, wouldn’t CM immediately realize that she was suddenly on a planet where everyone looked like her? Or did she believe that she was, biologically, Kree? How could a hoax like that be pulled off?
-The cat (that was not a cat) was neat and all, but… where did it come from? How was it on earth?