The cat belonged to Mar-Vell
MaxTheVool:
As Ascenray stated, the Cat/Flerkin was Mar Vell’s. The Skrull figured out that Mar Vell was on Earth (C-53?) after probing Danver’s mind. They knew where C-53 was, and went there. The Kree are like an intergalactic Rome - It’s an Empire made up of many different races. Dunno know how the FTL drive thing was supposed to matter. MacGuffin?
[spoiler]The Kree are not great guys. Ronan the Accuser wasn’t the Kree leader in GotG, he’s a renegade by that stage, attacking Nova (the big peaceful civilisation) - Nova Prime (Glenn Close) was appealing to Kree leadership to rein him in after the Kree and Nova signed a peace treaty, but the Kree government’s reaction was basically “Eh, whatchagonnado?”
We haven’t seen the Skrull before, in the MCU at least. They’re pretty well established in the comics, though.[/spoiler]
I haven’t seen it yet, I just want to say how good everyone is being about applying the spoiler tags. I enjoy getting your reactions and not having to worry about spoilers.
MaxTheVool, yes some Free look like humans. Jude Law and Djimon Hounsou’s characters are both Kree.
Saw it yesterday and liked it way more than I thought I would…which is good. That being said, I have some MAJOR questions over the timeline because unless someone here can set me straight, this movie destroys some already established beats in the MCU.
To the spoiler tags!
[spoiler]So, correct me if I’m wrong now…According to the MCU timeline. Red Skull had the Tesseract back in the WWII, Captain America beat him and plunged into the ocean where it (and eventually him) was found by Howard Stark. It was then, or around then, that Stark founded SHIELD (The Agent Carter Series, right? I never watched it). The Tesseract is now safely hidden in SHIELD. Fast forward a bunch of years until Thor and his boys come and mess up New Mexico which causes Nick Fury to say "we are vastly unprepared for crazy aliens’ and use the Tesseract’s power to make weapons like HYDRA was using (which is what pissed off Cap in Avengers.
So now, with Captain Marvel, somehow Mar-Vell got access to the Tesseract to make her light speed thing? How? She was a pilot, not in SHIELD. Also this movie makes it seem like this was Fury’s first encounter with aliens. If that’s true, then why was he so surprised when Thor showed up? and only THEN decided to make better weapons…he knew the Skrulls had better weapons from the start! I would have to see the movie again, but this also makes it seem like this is the first time Fury has ever seen the Tesseract…they didn’t let a SHIELD operative know his objective before sending him on a mission?
Lastly, didn’t they establish in Winter Soldier that Fury lost his eye over something Robert Redford did? That’s definitely not a cat. [/spoiler]
I’m sure a lot of the above are details I missed…but I’d certainly love to know them
STC, I knew someone would ask those questions. It’s as if something that doesn’t happen on screen doesn’t happen at all.
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- We don’t have a 100% timeline of the Tesseract from ~1947 to early 2000s. We don’t need to know how Mar-Vell obtained it, only that she did. That said, maybe they were unprepared because they hadn’t cracked how to use the Tesseract until they had Selvig, and the tools SHIELD had available couldn’t hope to stop a Thor.
- Fury being surprised by ‘alien’ Thor: yeah, that is always a problem when movies jump back into the past. One needs to just roll with it or one will go crazy nitpicking the inconsequential inconsistencies (or for certain somebodies, gleefully go over scene-by-scene so that somebody has content for his/her YT channel). At least it’s nowhere near as bad as how the Star Wars prequels screwed around with the original trilogy.
- Can’t find the scene in a quick search, but IIRC that may have been implied but not explicitly said. What I remember explicitly is that Fury gave his eye in the line of duty.[/spoiler]
My wife was looking forward to this so we just saw it and it was… good. Not great, not a waste of money. B-Tier Marvel stuff. The origin story plot probably weighed it down a bit and few of the obvious laugh bits really seemed to land with the theater. It was still good, not plodding and dull like Thor 2 or Iron-Man 3 but definitely lacking the sort of spark that makes a movie great.
STC:
Red Skull had the Tesseract back in the WWII
Captain America beat him and it fell into the ocean
Howard Stark found it and hid it in a SHIELD warehouse.
Mar Vell was doing research on it, using it as a power source to power her engine core for the FTL drive. Drive go boom, Tesseract ends up back at SHIELD.
At the end of Thor, in the end clip, Loki has mind-controlled Selvig into researching it for SHIELD so Fury can use it to make Hydra-type weapons (or, possibly, so Hydra can use it to make Hydra-type weapons…).
In *The Avengers, *Loki shows up and takes it, Battle of New York ensues.
Thor & Loki go back to Asgard with the Tesseract.
[spoiler]The line was something like Fury saying “Last time I trusted someone, I lost an eye” so pretty non-specific.
He thought Goose was a friendly flerken because of the halo effect of him looking like a cute ginger kitty. But Goose isn’t an ally in the sense of someone who made a choice to sign up; he’s still just an animal. Even a friendly cat will scratch if it’s provoked in the wrong way. Then Fury tried to tough the injury out instead of getting it treated.
Then, too, I’m pretty sure there are lots of stories doing the rounds in SHIELD about how exactly Fury lost his eye, just like there were lots of stories about why May’s called The Cavalry on AoS.[/spoiler]
That’s easily explained as a story that Fury allowed to grow. Phil asked him if it was true he lost it when being interrogated by the Kree, and Fury did a “neither confirm nor deny” on him. No way he’d admit it was a cat scratch.
Not sure if this totally fits (can’t remember who was speaking to whom), but Fury might have just been lying. The existence of Captain Marvel was obviously a closely guarded secret, and Fury seems like the kind of who doesn’t tell people of the existence of his emergency trump card if he doesn’t have to.
I took my girls to see it last night in Roanoke. Back home now I want to say I liked it but have two very minor criticisms.
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It really felt like the entire movie was a set up for Endgame. I know that’s kind of inevitable given it’s placement and that Endgame comes out in six weeks or so (God, we’re on the Disney treadmill now) but I couldn’t help but spend the whole time thinking how this will impact the entire Thanos storyline.
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What was up with the mix on the music? Yes, it’s the 90s. I was there. We listened to those songs. But the mix levels were an odd choice. If you have an extended fight scene with ‘Just a Girl’ behind it you should choose to embrace that. It was like they didn’t want to the music to do more than call attention to itself. They should have turned that up and let it drive home the commentary. Hearing the sound effects drown out the song seemed counterproductive.
Oh, and I totally nailed the post-credits scene and the cat. I told my girls what was going to happen as the credits were rolling.
Saw it tonight and was unimpressed. Brie Larson was not right for the role. Emily Blunt would have been a hundred times better and it felt as if Sam Jackson’s acting was stilted and forced.
Random thought:
[spoiler]Towards the end, Danvers gets her snazzy new suit which is actually just changing the color scheme on her old suit. Then Jude Law sees her new colors and gets all “OMG how dare you change your suit color!”. Dude, there’s a friggin’ RGB slider right on the wrist! Why do you even own suits that change color if no one is allowed to change their color?
(I asked my wife this and she suggested that Danvers had to tap the comma key fifty times to enter Developer Mode 
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More importantly, did I miss something or did they never actually name her Captain Mavel at any point ? In fact, Mar-Vell was her scientist boss/friend’s name so why would anyone be calling her Captain Marvel (allowing that, again, no one ever did)? In short, why was the movie named after a secondary character while it’s supposed to be the name of the main character except it’s never actually her name? I’m sure there’s some comic book reason for it but that feelsl ike a pretty dumb hole to leave in your film script, especially since I doubt most people are even vaguely familiar with the comic.[/spoiler]
Jophiel, I had the same thought about the title.
Ok isn’t this thread past the point of using spoiler boxes by now? Every single post will be a spoiler box, what is the point of that?
I don’t think this is spoiling anything, but the trend has been for superheroes not to be addressed by the title. It’s a trope — Comic-Book Movies Don't Use Codenames - TV Tropes
Sure, but Stark doesn’t spend the first movie talking about how Iro Nman was his old piano tutor.
Sincere a mod said to use spoiler tags in this thread, I’m doing so until told it’s okay otherwise or someone starts a new spoiler thread
I saw it last night and loved it! I don’t understand the weak reviews. Oh well, these things are subjective.
Saw the movie on Saturday with 5 teenage girls. They all loved it. They especially liked that they avoided any of the standard female hero tropes - no hint of a romantic attachment (not even Jude Law), no menstruation jokes, was never rescued by a male. And it passed the Bechdel test.
I thought that the character who really stole the show was Talos the Skrull. I didn’t even realize until I looked it up later that he also played Keller, Fury’s boss in SHIELD, so he got plenty of face time without the rubber mask too.
And no doubt there will be debate in Endgame as to whether Captain America outranks Captain Marvel. Sure, he’s got a lot more time in grade, but she can destroy a Kree warship with her bare hands.
Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver were created by the Mind Stone - it was inside Loki’s scepter which wound up in Baron Strucker’s hands.