I’ve got nothing against shy – I’m rather shy myself – but why on earth would you go on a reality TV show if you don’t want people paying attention to you?
You got me…I suspected that the situations they get into on this show would not be a good fit for him…he’s kind of a nut, really (and I mean that in the nicest possible way :)). He definitely craves some sort of attention. When he played here, he was always on TV doing commentary after the games, doing stuff around town to draw attention to himself, he would speak at Bulls rallies and stuff like that…as I said, obviously his whole persona is not exactly designed to melt into the background. But when it comes to one-on-one interaction, you can see that it’s almost painful for him. Get him on stage in a dress, and he’ll ham it up, but having to sell cupcakes to fans? I don’t see it. I’m sure Trump will want to keep him around as long as possible, but I can’t imagine he’s going to do very well.
Okay, that makes sense – they really are two different kinds of things. Thanks for the answer.
You’re welcome! I shouldn’t have said he’s a nut…it’s just that he seems to be kind up up in his own head all the time. It can’t be easy to be that type of personality, and so I aways had a sneaking sympathy for him.
All talk of Dennis aside, I have been looking forward to this season starting, and glad to see the first firing went the way I’d hoped! 
My only issue so far is that I’m having a bit of a hard time looking at what Joan Rivers has done to her face. She looks like the Joker. I’m starting to suspect that Melissa has had some work done, too, and I really hope I’m wrong.
Green has been doing kids’ shows in the last few years, trying to clean up his act. He apparently has a talk show somewhere in low-rent cable. Still, if any of the Celebrity Apprentice events require humping of dead cats, I’m sure he’ll step up.
Trivia Q: What do Tom Green and Scott Hamilton have in common?
Walker says he’s getting better. According to him, he cannot remember any of his Heisman season. Note that Walker previously worked for Trump when he played on the New jersey USFL team.
Is Dice gone? I missed the end because I’d switched over to Tool Academy. I have heard it said that the Diceman is purely an act, and that Andrew Clay is really a normal, sweet guy when he is not in that persona. No idea if there’s any truth to that.
Reality shows, and the Apprentice in particular, always seem to like to present the women as unable to get along without attacking one another.
It seemed like an act to me, which is actually what made it even more annoying. He was just hamming it up for the cameras, putting on voices and telling stupid jokes. It just wasn’t funny. It was like he was playing a role and doing it very badly.
Rodman’s explanation (“If I go out on the street it’ll end up being all about me and it will distract people from buying cupcakes”) was so lame as to be pathetic…and then in the boardroom he tried to shift all the blame to others and no one called him on sitting there texting people instead of participating.
And I thought it was the men’s chocolate cupcakes that tasted so bad, even after a sugar syrup bath…they took a yellow one to the tasting, so how did it end up being judged as horrible? I really thought the women would lose that tasting because Melissa didn’t know the chocolate one’s had fallen…
I think the problem with Annie Duke wasn’t so much that she was bossing people around, but that she didn’t say Could you please, or thank you. I know from working with lots of kitchen amateurs that you really have to give people specific tasks, as she was…but you have to be nice about it. And the whole thing with the "I don’t want to sell the last tray of cupcakes just in case someone comes up at the last minute with another big donation…that was not well-thought-out.
They’re both cancer survivors – I think specifically testicular cancer, but I’m not sure about that with Tom Green.
Tom Green did a show about his testicular cancer if I recall correctly actually.
Forgot about that from my childhood and the tube…
Annie Duke is one of my favorite poker players, so I was glad to see her on there. She does seem to have brains, too. I think the other girls might be intimidated by her.
However, that 9K dollar muffin tray debacle did not impress me the slightest. It was kind of arrogant, actually.
She was on the View recently, and she complained that Melissa absolutely refused her offer to pay for “a little work” on any part of her face. Since Joan seems compulsively open about plastic surgery, I think this may be true.
A while back he tried doing a reality show about his big “comeback” - he was going to sell out some venue again and reclaim his former glory.:rolleyes:
I only saw one episode of him and his poor son, but out of character he is still a miserable tool. His “persona” (sp?) doesn’t seem much different than his personality, just dialed down a notch.
Really glad he’s gone.
I wasn’t thinking “arrogant” so much as stupid. That is, anybody who has ever worked in retail sales knows you don’t say crap like that *in front of *the customer. If she wantet to tell Brande that she shouldn’t sell out all the cupcakes, she should have pulled her aside and told her quietly, rather than in front of the guys with the big check.
I think Annie is just so used to working alone (or with Phil Helmuth, in their reality/poker show) that she doesn’t really know how to get along in a situation like this. I hope she learns quickly, because her friends could bring in a *lot *of dough for her. But the way her story arc is going, I think she is going very soon.
I don’t watch anything with Donald Trump. I just came in to see if Dice Clay hopefully got kicked off so I won’t even have to see him in the commercial promos for the show. What a relief.
As for the Rivers girls. I think Melissa has had work done because she looks more and more like her mother and her mother’s current face is not the result of genetics. After watching a promo of this show, my boyfriend commented that Joan Rivers looks like the puppet Madame.
(Admittedly not adding anything to the discussion about this season’s show, but I wanted to chime in anyway.)
I watched every episode of the non-celebrity Apprentice – even the crappy L.A. season – and it was a big guilty pleasure for me. As “reality” competitions go, it was fun and interesting to watch and it actually had a kind of consistent internal logic. And the fact that the participants were not famous meant you could put yourself in their shoes and imagine how you might react to a given situation.
In the first celebrity version, the first contestant fired was an ex-Playboy Playmate (I don’t recall her name). The challenge was to run a hot dog stand, and as I recall, the Playmate was engaged with the project, showed some decent business sense, and was vocal about some of her ideas regarding location and pricing. So why was she fired? Because she didn’t call Hugh Hefner to come and give them a bunch of money. None of her participation meant a damn thing, only that she refused to go begging to her ex-boss in an effort to win a silly game… a game which in truth had nothing at all do do with selling hot dogs. That was when I gave up.
From what I’ve read, the rest of the season went along similar lines and this one seems to be starting out the same way. Even for a dumb reality show, what a waste.
I’m forced to disagree. I used to write a column on why Trump fired each contestant, but it was getting more and more of a stretch to explain it as time went on. The recapper on my site got so sick of it that she quit doing it. The show had reached a point of ridiculousness, IMO. Hopefully, if they ever decide to bring it back as a non-celeb version, they’ll start over and get rid of the gimmics.
I’ll concede this point. Trump’s decisions were not always on the mark.
But at least when there was a challenge about selling hot dogs, it was about selling hot dogs – not about how much cash you can extort out of your famous friends. That was what turned me away from the celeb version.
True, and it’s something I don’t like either. But even in the non-celeb version, if somebody could have gotten a big donation, it would have counted (remember the guy who tried selling something for $5000? We all thought he was crazy at the time!). The difference is that the celebs actually know people who can do stuff like that.
I loved the first three (+/-) seasons, but lost interest around the time they moved the show out to L.A./dumped Carolyn, and was happily surprised to find the first Celeb Edition quite entertaining.
Another two-hour episode tonight – and since it’s Andrew-Dice-Clay-free, I’m hoping it will be even more amusing that last week.
I think it’s supposed to be two hours for the whole season. Ugh – that’s a bit much for me.