I must say that I am thoroughly ashamed of the behavior of these “visitors” who blaspheme my Lord by invoking His holy name for their own purpose. It is painfully obvious that nothing I say will cause them to denounce their arrogance and humble themselves before God.
So instead I just want to appeal to the regular posters here: please understand that I find nothing Christlike whatsoever in their boorishness, and please do not identify these people with people like Poly, Tris, and me. Jesus was humble; they are swelled with a foolish pride.
Most of you know the scripture that says speaking in tongues without love is just a clanging bell. Now with these “visitors”, you can see what that means.
“It is lucky for rulers that men do not think.” — Adolf Hitler
Don’t worry about it, Lib. One of the things for which I’m most grateful to this Board is that I re-learned that not all Christians believed in an evil God. You and the others were a big part of that. I’m not going to unlearn it because of these mopes. I trust that to be true of others, too.
I give them the half-life of SaDkOrNyGuy, or whatever his name was. Then they’ll return to their hateful shell to reassure themselves that with sufficient begging God will spare them from the evil fate He has in store for the other 90% of his children.
It has been clear to me from your first posting that you in no way resemble our new guests. Ditto for Poly, Tom, Tris, Melon, Durno etc.
As an atheist who did not have too much respect for Christianity, you all have helped me to see Christians in a new light. Had my enlightement been left up to the fundies, I would have no doubt ended up thinking all Christians were ignorant, rabid, hate spewing hypocrites. It’s funny how you, who they probably don’t think are a proper Chirstian, has done more to honor Christ than they have. Warped.
Anyway, don’t worry about it, Lib. I think everyone here knows that you are not “one of them”
“I should not take bribes and Minister Bal Bahadur KC should not do so either. But if clerks take a bribe of Rs 50-60 after a hard day’s work, it is not an issue.” ----Krishna Prasad Bhattarai, Current Prime Minister of Nepal
I say give them a break. I personally am agnostic, but I can understand their point of view. Think of it thus:
A good friend of yours is playing in the street. You yell at them to get out, but they don’t. They also tell you to stop bothering them. Do you:
A) Go away and stop bothering them
B) Tell them to get the heck out of the street before they get hit by a car
If it were MY friend, I’d say B. Now, substitute "being about to go to hll" for “playing in the street”. No matter how much you protest, if they care about you, they’re going to try and convince you to do what’s best. They are, IMHO, doing right. The only good solution is to try and explain to them that heaven and hll don’t exist and that they’re holding on to some archaic concept from the middle ages.
And if that actually works, then be very, very, afraid.
Libertarian:
Do not worry. Whatever disagreements we may have had I in no way associate you with the kind of behavior these individuals have exhibited.
Although it does point out the downside of any self-identification with a group. If it helps, I have on more than one occassion been embarrassed by the garbage spewed upon the world in the name of atheism.
The best lack all conviction
The worst are full of passionate intensity.
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You know, it does prove God has a sense of humor. I mean, Jesus said He brings a machete to separate the wheat from the chaff. What’s funny is they think they’re the wheat!
“It is lucky for rulers that men do not think.” — Adolf Hitler
Do you see an honest concern in any of their posts? Shall we play with your analogy further.
“Hey, stranger! Stop trying to talk; I’m shouting at you. You’re going to die! A giant truck that I see but you don’t is going to squash you flat. Look it’s right there! You just can’t see it because you’re too blinded by your ability to reason! I will now scream out of context quotes at you. If you get squashed, you obviously deserve it!”
The best lack all conviction
The worst are full of passionate intensity.
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I’m not saying they make any sense, just that they have good intentions. I don’t, however, think I need to remind you exactly which road is paved with good intentions.
Libertarian, how dare you judge the Christians who have come to show the infidels the way of The Lord? Does not the Bible say:
[Pss 1:5]* Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.*
[Pss 1:6] For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.
[Pss 2:1.4] Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
[Pss 2:2] The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
[Pss 2:3] Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
[Pss 2:4]* He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.*
[Pss 59:5.17] Thou therefore, O LORD God of hosts, the God of Israel, awake to visit all the heathen: be not merciful to any wicked transgressors. Selah.
[Mat 10:34.9] Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
How can these Christians be wrong to attack the unGodly? I fear you have been corrupted from the true way of God by your association with infidels and atheists! Please repent; your immortal Soul is on the line!
“I believe it is easy to loose sight of the fact the the Lord has created athiests for a reason…to test our faith. They tempt us with reason and facts… Embrase agnostics!! I would cry it from every rooftop: ‘Embrase an agnostic!’” --“Bell”, on the LBMB
“I should not take bribes and Minister Bal Bahadur KC should not do so either. But if clerks take a bribe of Rs 50-60 after a hard day’s work, it is not an issue.” ----Krishna Prasad Bhattarai, Current Prime Minister of Nepal
[Pss 2:4] He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the LORD shall have them in derision.
[The Book Of Giant Squid] He who sitteth at home by the computer shall laugh; he shall mock and deride all these people who don’t know what they are talking about.
“Debating born-again Christians is like hunting dairy cows with a high-powered scope rifle”-Anonymous
Guys, these are from the LeftBehind.com web site. Someone tipped them to the For David B, the good Doctor and others who are knowledgable about Creation debate thread and they are over here bombing us in righteous wrath.
(Note that there are only four ot five of them doing this, so it isn’t the whole web site. Let’s not start a war if we can help it.)
I would sponsor publishing and dissemintaing the Book of Lib to all fundies, but I fear the common-sense knowledge contained in it would bounce off their anti-thought forcefields.
This fundie-flood is not as bad as I feared when I heard the threats; it’s actually pretty darn funny. Some of the responses have been priceless.
Nice going, everybody. We won the battle in just over two hours. Did someone misplace their trumpet?
“I should not take bribes and Minister Bal Bahadur KC should not do so either. But if clerks take a bribe of Rs 50-60 after a hard day’s work, it is not an issue.” ----Krishna Prasad Bhattarai, Current Prime Minister of Nepal