Clothes get the lay? WTF?

Ok, so I’m not the coolest guy out there. I was talking to a friend, (ok borderline metrosexual) who think’s he is all that. Our debate was that women look at clothes more than a person. So ladies, what do you think? Does a guy looking “cool” in dirty jeans, uncombed hair, and sloppy shirt really look better than the plain business guy in a pair of dockers pants, generic stafford (imitation) leather shoes, and a normal button-up shirt? (IE does $100 of crap from GAP/Express beat a $50 outfit from Penny’s.) To me, if a woman is that stupid or shallow she should own a vibrator* and I don’t understand mainstream America’s herd mentaility.

*Obviously because anyone who doesn’t look past a shirt before deciding if a person has value needs to go f#@& themselves.

I think your friend is sorely mistaken. I perfer khakis, a nice button down shirt combed hair, and leather shoes. In fact it makes my heart thump a bit. It tells me he is put together, takes pride in his appearence, probably does not listen to rap, actually reads books, etc.

Sloppy outfit and messy hair screams wanna be frat boy who probably still entertains himself with bodily noises :stuck_out_tongue:

Now the Gap has some really nice things. But they also have some grossly trendy things and I have a feeling your friend gravitates toward the grossly trendy.

Also when I am meeting a guy, I am not trying to guess where his shirt came from but does he have a nice smile, can he carry on a conversation, does he look interested when I talk, etc.

You said that women who are that stupid and shallow should own a vibrator. Women looking at how men dress is just a sign of the tides turning. Men have looked at how a woman dresses and looks for generations. I think it is a good chance to mention that if men don’t want to be judged on how they look then maybe they should not judge women on the same shallow terms.

Actually, we are more interested in whats underneath the clothes than the clothes themselves :smiley:

And then some of us like to see what more there is to the person underneath first…sometimes

I could care less how a guy dresses, as long as his clothes are clean and there are no holes or stains.

There is something about a well dressed man, though. There’s this lawyer in my city who is known for how he dresses: thousand(s) dollar suits, silk ties, etc., every day. I saw him walking down the sidewalk once while I was driving and I literally did a double-take. He’s probably the only person whose style of dressing ever got my attention like that.

Style is not something you can buy.

I just look right at his face. My SO makes fun of me because I comment on how sexy he is when he’s wearing work clothes covered in grease and oil from a day in the garage. Mmmmmmmmmmm.

I’ve said it before, clothes don’t make the man, they can only make the scarecrow.

Mark Twain said something about this once. I can’t remember where he wrote it, but it was along the lines of this:

The second best chess player in the world doesn’t beat up on himself over being the 45, 987, 324th best billiards player.

The trick is to know what you’ve got, and play up to it. If you’re a meat-and-potatoes bloke, then a lumberjack shirt and blue jeans will pull women* for you better than expensive business clothes (and vice versa). Some blokes can do the rock star I-haven’t-shaved-for-three-days black t-shirt thing well, others will look stupid, and should stick to the natty nautical look, or whatever.

[sup]*The women who happen to like that particular look, that is. Some won’t like it. Deal with it. The idea here is simply to play a winning hand, know what isn’t going to work, and not to be afraid to cut your losses. There’s no universal formula.[/sup]

Something I’ve learned about women:

1.) Shoes; gotta have good shoes, it doesn’t really matter what kind just as long as they don’t look tattered. (why this is I don’t know)

2.) Tuck your f’n shirt in and wear a belt.

3.) cologne or at least make sure you smell nice. make sure you don’t over do it though. For me, you probably wouldn’t know I was wearing any unless you huged me or leaned in close to me to tell me something.

Once I hear a girl say “ooo you smell good” I know it’s all over but the crime.

heh, heh, chicks are easy…

And what’s wrong with that? :wink:

:puts on nice leather shoes: So, geewhiz, how you doing?

Green_Bladder: Nothing but most women over the age of 25 will run for the hills.

RandomLetters: Good, got those nice khaki pants on with the leather shoes?

Wait…you’re not? I love it when people don’t do anything about the way they look and then get all bitter and pissed off because no one will see them for “who they are”. The whole point of “style” is to convey who you are. No one can tell anything about you by looking at you. If you dress in ill-fitting $5 shirts from KMart, you will look like someone who does not take care of themselves.

The trick is to look put together without looking like you spent a lot of time on your wardrobe. It doesn’t matter if you buy your clothes at Express, Barneys or a Salvation Army thrift store. What matters is how the clothes’ color, style and fit look on you. I’ve had as much luck meeting girls in a $60 playa’ shirt and jeans as I have had wearing a ratty thermal undershirt under a ‘1995 Corporate Golf Outing’ T-shirt I picked up in a thrift store for $2.

Tucked in shirts are so 3 years ago.

And that is bad…why?

There’s something very sexy about a well-dressed man. Someone who wears clothes whose color and style work for him, not just a guy who throws on khakis and an Oxford without thinking about it.

I’m partial to the sexy librarian look myself. Corduroy, vests, and glasses. Oooh, and hats. I love a man who can pull off a hat.

Every woman has a type, as you can see. The trick is to know who you are, then dress the part. You want us to like you for who you are, right? What you wear says more about who you are from across the crowded bar than your physical traits. Frat boy, regular guy, gear head, professional. I like the gear heads myself but can’t stand the fitness types. So I would be more likely to approach a man dressed in jeans than a man dressed in a running outfit.

If you want to attract shallow women, you have to dress the part. Your friend has found success with that, as there is no shortage of shallow women. But there are plenty of us normal ones out there, too.