I looked and didn’t see anything, and checking now, looks like I was first! By a whole minute.
Other than the problem of certain posters refusing to post in the Pit, I’m fine with shutting this down if there’s too much overlap (not that you need my permission). Thanks for keeping it open for now.
This is shaping up unfortunately predictably. Republicans are trashing Cohen personally (I believe two of them have used exactly the same line about putting a liar on the stand, while Democrats are tut-tutting the whole thing.
Unless Cohen can come up with some sort of corroborating evidence (witnesses to their conversations, recordings of phone calls, whatever) to his allegations, this will devolve literally into a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
I can’t watch at the moment - is Cohen saying anything new? Is he expected to?
I take it for granted that the Republicans have gone over everything he has said previously, both truthful and otherwise, and will dwell lovingly on the otherwise. And “I was lying then, but I am telling the truth now” is always a tough sell.
You seem to imply that no one who ever lied for their boss could ever be trusted. He already pled guilty and has no further reason to lie. He said over and over again that he lied for Trump out of loyalty to him, a loyalty that he no longer feels. He’s coming clean to clear his conscience. At this point, lying to congress would get him into further trouble, since that would lead to new perjury charges, so he has more to gain by telling the truth and lots to lose by lying.
So he should be believed, because he has been lying all his life and has nothing to lose by lying now.
But I think you are mistaken about his having nothing to gain. Trump is done with him, and if Cohen gives the Dems something they think they can use to bring down Trump, they will make a hero out of him. Heck, maybe if they can bring down Trump and Pence, Pelosi will give him a pardon and some Democrat will set him up with a book deal.
First, let’s not lose the thread – he was lying in order to hide criminal conduct by the president. That’s what he was lying about. We can’t trust him to tell the truth now because he lied to us to conceal criminal conduct by the Republican president – is that the line you’re taking? Because it seems like it.
And, your second paragraph is pure fantasy. He’s going to jail for a few years. I mean, what the fuck – he’s lying to get a future pardon from a hypothetical President Pelosi?
Respond if you’d like – I think I’m done with this interaction. (Although I’m still hoping you’d respond to my questions in the Pastor Pete thread – you went silent over there)