It doesn’t bother me one iota that she’s a stripper. It’s just a job like any other.
[QUOTE=Hamadryad]
Where the fuck do you think you are? The Idaho Pussy-Hump Tribune?
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Still a damn fine paper, whose flagging readership of late I ascribe to an overall decline in literacy, public perception of increased media homogenization, and the marketing savvy of its major competitor, the conservative Boise Hairless Crotch-Mirror.
[QUOTE=Liberal]
It’s just a job like any other.
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Not to come down on strippers or turn this into a debate, but that quote is kind of a stretch.
The only strip club I’ve ever been to was Delilah’s in Philly. I was told by friends that it was the best strip club in the city (one of the largest cities in the U.S., of course). Surveys seem to back my friends up on that one.
Still, though, the place was greasy as hell. I don’t even want to begin to envision what the lower-class joints are like, and I really can’t ever see myself ever going to a place like that again.
Fuck, maybe I’m just some kind of prude. I don’t know.
Then again, it is hard to imagine a thesis like this being conducted on, say, accountants:
Of course his sample size is small, and of course not everyone ends up like this (I’m definitely not calling Indygrrl a potential hooker; she’s always seemed like a good, intelligent, poster [excepting this thread]), but to compare it to an office job, or a warehouse job, or whatever, is ludicrous.
[QUOTE=neutron star]
Of course his sample size is small, and of course not everyone ends up like this (I’m definitely not calling Indygrrl a potential hooker; she’s always seemed like a good, intelligent, poster [excepting this thread]), but to compare it to an office job, or a warehouse job, or whatever, is ludicrous.
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I’d like to say that I’m definitely not calling neutron star a scumbag asshole who sucks off dead dogs in alleyways for nickels. He’s always seemed like a good, intelligent, poster except for this bit of poison penmanship.
[QUOTE=Cartooniverse]
Not only is it not at all inappropriate for a Doper to post information shared in one thread when posting to another, it is very much the norm. YOU may not like that idea, but you posted one hell of a lot of highly detailed information in that thread called “Ask The Stripper”. That was you. You OP’d that thread. You could not have been more clear in your invitation. We should ask, you will hold forth- and in remarkably great detail.
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Well, I have found that a certain protion of the Dope – the asshole portion – believe that if any information about a poster’s sex life/interests/etc. leaks out it can then be used in ANY forum where the poster opines on ANY subject, as a way of discrediting that Doper. Now, VCO3 may have seemed to be being helpful, but among assholes posting something that is an attack on a poster in the guise of helpfulness is considered an art. When you factor in VCO3’s well-known tendency toward dickishness, what I think you get is grounds for considering his post an attack. Indygrrl saw through him, that’s all, and called him on it. She’s a stripper, so she takes poppers, right. Like neutron star’s post in which he carefully does not call Indygrrl a prostitute, it was a provocation disguised as helpfulness and reasonableness.
Indygrrl did the right thing.
[QUOTE=Hamadryad]
Give me a break with this “You people are ATTACKING this POOR GIRL because you PURITANS think she’s IMMORAL” horseshit, though. Where the fuck do you think you are? The Idaho Pussy-Hump Tribune? We’re fine with gay*, transgendered*, fetishists* and wanna-be-peg-ees*, and you think we’re condemning her because she’s a STRIPPER?
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This is just fucking idiotic.
In other words, I’m fine with [del]gay[/del] people who don’t take off their clothes in front of strangers for money, [del]transgendered[/del] people who don’t take off their clothes in front of strangers for money, [del]fetishists[/del] people who don’t take off their clothes in front of strangers for money, and [del]wanna-be-peg-ees[/del] people who don’t take off their clothes in front of strangers for money.
So obviously I’m fine with people who take off their clothes for money.
[QUOTE=saoirse]
This is just fucking idiotic.
In other words, I’m fine with [del]gay[/del] people who don’t take off their clothes in front of strangers for money, [del]transgendered[/del] people who don’t take off their clothes in front of strangers for money, [del]fetishists[/del] people who don’t take off their clothes in front of strangers for money, and [del]wanna-be-peg-ees[/del] people who don’t take off their clothes in front of strangers for money.
So obviously I’m fine with people who take off their clothes for money.
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I think you meant to put a colon after the word “idiotic,” not a period.
[QUOTE=Evil Captor]
I’d like to say that I’m definitely not calling neutron star a scumbag asshole who sucks off dead dogs in alleyways for nickels. He’s always seemed like a good, intelligent, poster except for this bit of poison penmanship.
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And I’d respond to such by saying that Evil Captor is a good man, who only coincidentally is aroused by people thrashing his penis with a whip and forcing him to call him “daddy” before he is capable of a tiny, self-loathing, ejaculation.
[QUOTE=jsgoddess]
If she were a profession that Dopers, in general, respected, the thread would have gone very differently. Oh, I know that many will say that they have no problem with strippers, but I don’t really believe that.
Especially if you read comments about how she is an attention whore for talking about her job, where the rest of us can talk about our jobs without any such label.
Now, was the whole kerfuffle worthy of a pit thread? Meh.
Is this thread altered because of people’s feelings about what the OP does for a living? I think almost certainly.
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I read her “Ask the Stripper” thread and found it really interesting. Believe me or don’t when I say I don’t care what she does for a living. She’s clearly not an idiot, and I respect for for putting an intelligent, respectable face on the profession.
What I don’t respect is her apparent inability to handle the disagreement she’s getting in this thread without resorting to a “You’re all losers” swipe and a “Fine, I’m leaving” sulk. That’s weak.
[QUOTE=neutron star]
And I’d respond to such by saying that Evil Captor is a good man, who only coincidentally is aroused by people thrashing his penis with a whip and forcing him to call him “daddy” before he is capable of a tiny, self-loathing, ejaculation.
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I guess this kind of proves his point, doesn’t it?
[QUOTE=Omegaman]
I guess this kind of proves his point, doesn’t it?
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Except that the original post that Evil Captor snarked to seemed genuine to me. neutron star offered up some evidence- though even he (she?) admitted it was rather weak- for the idea that drugs are more prevelent in stripping.
It was Captor that decided to snark his little heart out, unreasonably so- if you ask me. His response was completely unwarranted, particularly in regard to the post he quoted.
Sorry, but after Captor decided to be a douche and snark for no reason, he opened himself up for neutron star’s reply.
[QUOTE=jsgoddess]
Especially if you read comments about how she is an attention whore for talking about her job, where the rest of us can talk about our jobs without any such label.
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I would say that anyone who takes their clothes off in front of a room full of strange men for money is an attention whore pretty much by definition.
[QUOTE=saoirse]
This is just fucking idiotic.
In other words, I’m fine with [del]gay[/del] people who don’t take off their clothes in front of strangers for money, [del]transgendered[/del] people who don’t take off their clothes in front of strangers for money, [del]fetishists[/del] people who don’t take off their clothes in front of strangers for money, and [del]wanna-be-peg-ees[/del] people who don’t take off their clothes in front of strangers for money.
So obviously I’m fine with people who take off their clothes for money.
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Have I been sniffing glue? Has PC gone so far left that I’m supposed respect stripping, the taking off of ones clothes while dancing for money, the same as I respect any other profession?
I do not know this woman and she very well may be the smartest, most responsible, kind, good person on the whole planet, but I just can’t imagine having a stripper in my group of friends and being able to look at her and think “great contribution to the community there, suzie Q”
She seems to enjoy her job. Thats fantastic. People can choose to do whatever they want to do. Thats not my problem. I would never be rude or condescending to a stripper but I’m sorry I cant sit here and say that I respect what she’s chosen to do with her life in terms of earning a living. I would still say that even if she was curing cancer on the weekends just for fun. Every club i’ve ever been to has been seedy, the patrons drunk and desperate, and its just not a job choice I would make for myself or encourage in any friends or daughters I may have in the future.
So yeah. bitch me out I guess. I’m the asshole I just had to say it.
[QUOTE=lobstermobster]
Every club i’ve ever been to has been seedy, the patrons drunk and desperate, **and its just not a job choice I would make for myself ** or encourage in any friends or daughters I may have in the future.
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sheepishly returns pile of $1 bills to pocket and slinks away 
I think it’s funny that some people are not in favour of bringing Indy’s stripping history into the thread in question (in spite of her bringing it up herself frequently other places), yet we are fine with people bringing their opinions of VC03 in from other threads. It would be terribly disingenuous to try to pretend that the contents of each thread exist in a vacuum, separate from all other threads, discussions, opinions, and feelings on the board.
Reality check here - people ARE going to judge other people based on what you post about yourself. Stripping is not a morality-neutral occupation. I have no intention of vilifying anybody engaging in it, but it isn’t the same as working as a construction worker or accountant.
[QUOTE=OneCentStamp]
sheepishly returns pile of $1 bills to pocket and slinks away
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not so fast, mister, I could really use the cash.
[QUOTE=Hamadryad]
Where the fuck do you think you are? The Idaho Pussy-Hump Tribune? We’re fine with gay*, transgendered*, fetishists* and wanna-be-peg-ees*, and you think we’re condemning her because she’s a STRIPPER?
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Well, I think I’m on the Dope, where people like to think they are quite sophisticated but where lots of mean little stereotypes still fly around (check out the thread about a woman sleeping in the same bed as a gay guy to see a few of them. Gay guys will fuck anything!).
And you can look at posts following yours for some examples of people willing to admit that they do, in fact, think less of her because she’s a stripper.
I know that Dopers want to think that they’re above all that, well, except for the people who don’t want to be above all that. But the majority of posters here are Americans, and Americans are not fine with strippers. They really aren’t.
I don’t even know how I feel about strippers, but I know that I don’t know.
[QUOTE=featherlou]
Stripping is not a morality-neutral occupation.
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I would say that to **some ** people, it is a ‘morality-neutral’ occupation, that the percentage of folks at the SDMB who would think it’s ‘morality-neutral’ is significantly different (and higher) than the percentage of the US population as a whole.
[QUOTE=DiosaBellissima]
neutron star offered up some evidence- though even he (she?)
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He.
Damn, why do I get that so often? Maybe I need to turn into an Evil Captor-esque person who can’t achieve orgasm without being beaten half to death before people are positive of my gender.
[QUOTE=jsgoddess]
I don’t even know how I feel about strippers, but I know that I don’t know.
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Spoken with true wisdom.