Emphasis mine.
Meh. You get more juice out of Der Trihs’ average post. I mean Commisar is just calling for hatred of U.S. Servicemembers, ala 1960’s style shit; DT has actually called for, and expressed joy, at their detahs.
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Meh. You get more juice out of Der Trihs’ average post. I mean Commisar is just calling for hatred of U.S. Servicemembers, ala 1960’s style shit; DT has actually called for, and expressed joy, at their detahs.
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The difference, IMHO, is that Der Trihs actually believes the batshit crazy stuff he’s saying, while this guy is pretty obviously trolling. It’s a subtle difference, I suppose, but profound. YMMV of course.
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The number of obvious trolls on the Board these days is getting a little discouraging. It’s easy enough to put them on Ignore, which I do, but it really seems to be getting out of hand. I wonder if there’s any sort of discussion going on behind the scenes by the Mods about this.
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I don’t ever put people on ignore, though sometimes I just skip their posts after reading a few lines, depending on what they are saying. I think that the Mods are bending over backwards to try and be as accommodating as they can, and giving people the benefit of the doubt so as not to let their personal preferences influence the community. Sort of like the old saying (to paraphrase) that it’s better to let 100 guilty people go free than convict one innocent one, I think it’s generally a good thing, even if sometimes folks like Commissar seemingly get away with such obvious trolling. All we, as a community can do is report posts or threads we think are examples of trolling and then let the Mods decide amongst themselves. Personally, I think the Mods are giving Commissar, Le Jac, FXM and the like just enough rope to hang themselves, and if they are indeed trolling then eventually they will fuck up once too many times and join the ranks of the BANNED. I’d rather the Mods be thoughtful and use the Ban-Hammer of Doom(+5) sparingly, giving folks ever opportunity to show that they aren’t really trolls and just hold radically different views.
-XT
That used to be me, but there are a couple of trolls, the subject of this thread being one, who are just too annoying. He and the alleged small child are the only ones I’ve personally banished – it would not surprise me to learn they are one and the same in real life – but I notice the trolling numbers seem to be growing.
Seriously? You know, the thing I absolutely love about you is your hilariously delusional interpretation of reality. Think about it…
You stated that there are several people on this board that you disagree strongly with. A sane individual would take that information and conclude that, hey, people will differ, and an internet board with a large member-base will have numerous opinions represented. But not you… Oh no. You take the same fact pattern, and somehow emerge convinced of a nefarious plot by people with nothing better to do than rile you up and get themselves banned on purpose.
And now we have… this. A sane person, upon encountering a lack of mod action on a moderated board, would simply conclude that the thread in question does not merit mod action. You, on the other hand, conclude that the mods would totally shut the thread down, had they not magically disappeared at the worst damn moment possible! Grrr!
So, yeah, keep rocking the crazy. I’d remind you to take your meds, but you know what, screw that. You’re more entertaining when you’re in your bouncing-off-the-walls delusional phase.
That’s nice, but it does beg the question as to why, if you’re doing your damnedest to ignore someone, you would seek out a thread specifically focused on that particular person and waste your time whining about him? I can’t help but get the feeling that you’re doing this “ignore” thing wrong, you cretin. :rolleyes:
I’m not sure if that’s the case… sometimes even with really, really obvious trolls the mods will bend over backwards to assume that the person is actually mentally retarded than come to the obvious conclusion that they’re here to put us on. The “Why didn’t Mister Rogers talk about masturbation?” guy lasted much longer than he should have, for example.
Commissar posts such obvious dishonesty, in such bad faith, towards the purpose of annoying people that the mods normal procedure seems to be exceedingly broken in this situation. What’s stranger is that he meets the SDMB’s own definition to a T.
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Commissar usually uses terms like “The Empire” instead of “America”, makes sure to add “Glorious” before mention of totalitarian states, posted a thread pitting America and wishing for its nuclear annihilation and championing communism as some of his first threads here, and has done things like posted a thread in support of Quadaffi’s dictatorship while stating that he expected substantial support from Dopers. He routinely posts non-facts that he knows are bullshit, but hopes to get a reaction with, like babbling about how the Soviet Union singlehandedly won WW II, and such. I’m not sure what, exactly, he’d have to do to make the fact that he’s a liar and a troll any clearer.
Hopefully he’ll use the rope the mods have given him to hang himself one of these days, but damn, while the wheels grind exceedingly fine sometimes they grind very, very slowly.
The flip side to all this “why are all these trolls tolerated??!” is the absolute batshit frothing rage that happens whenever ANYONE who’s been around for more than a week gets banned. Hell, I think even Cesario had a few supporters crying loudly about power-mad mod abuse.
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Seriously? You know, the thing I absolutely love about you is your hilariously delusional interpretation of reality. Think about it…
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Oh, this should be good. Lessons about reality from you. 
There are MANY posters on this board who I have varying degrees of disagreement with, ranging from disagreement on vertical subjects to pretty much completely disagreement on a wide range of topics. Most of them aren’t trolls like you or the other short list of folks I think are trolls, however.
Which is exactly what I do in the cases of dopers who I just disagree with, even who I disagree fundamentally with. For example, I’ve stated before that I don’t believe Der Trihs is a troll…just batshit crazy. He really believes the stuff he’s saying, and far all his craziness he can be interesting and even funny at times. And on some subjects He and I are actually not that far apart, though it would probably shock him to hear it. I could reel off the names of dozens of posters who I have disagreed with in the past, sometimes quite heatedly…none of which I consider to be trolls.
You however, and FXM and Le Jac ARE trolls. It’s as simple as that. You post things that come off as false and ridiculous and are designed to evoke rage in posters and elicit a response or series of responses to keep posting back to your threads. You are the most false of my short list of trolls. I think Le Jac really believes his bullsht, but he still trolls to try and get a rise out of people. FXM also believes his own bullsht but also posts in such a way as to elicit a response and produce anger or rage in posters he wants to piss off. YOU, on the other hand come off as about as genuine as a $3/bill. I highly doubt you were born in Russia or even have Russian ancestry. I’ve known Russians from various parts of the country and even worked in Russia and traveled there several times and you just don’t ring true. And your responses are classic troll, your OP being the best case for your trollish nature to date.
Based on the evidence of this thread and on the responses you’ve gotten to just about every post you’ve made in GD I’d say that I’m not alone in thinking yo are a troll you dumb shit. If it was just me thinking it I would probably keep my suspicions to myself, with perhaps a few mild observations reported to the Mods of my suspicions. You will note that I didn’t start this thread…merely have been one of many participants all saying the same thing…you are a fucking troll and in general a waste.
The irony is that you aren’t stupid. You COULD be a valuable member since you are reasonably articulate. We’ve had REAL communist posters in the past who lasted for years and who’s insights, while generally not accepted by most posters were interesting and informative and gave this community fresh perspectives. Sadly, you won’t change (and have probably so poisoned the well in this community with your previous posts that it probably doesn’t matter at this point anyway unless you secretly change your name with Mod assistance and make some major changes in your posting style) and so you will eventually, probably sooner than later, be hit with the Ban-Hammer of Doom(+5). C’est la vie.
I didn’t expect the Mods to shut down the thread, because early on your bullshit was pretty well dismissed and now the thread is in the endless debate about re fighting the Vietnam war and various other side discussions that GD thrives on. But that thread was a blatant attempt at trolling by you, regardless.
Hm…wonder what that shinny thing in the water is? It looks so tasty…so bright and shinny! Should I swim closer? What’s that string attached to it, I wonder…and that green face looking down from on top of the water?? Best just swim away…it’s probably not good to eat, and the smell!
-XT
I miss Chumpsky.
Yeah, sometimes I feel sorry about that.
Oh, I’ll miss the sad little [del]turd[/del] excuse for a troll the tiniest bit when he’s gone. He’s mildly amusing to laugh at, and it’s impossible to get worked up by him. I mean glorious comrade Stalin never murdered millions, it’s all lies made up by that vile, imperialist, counter-revolutionary traitor Solzhenitsyn! It’s as if he missed out on the Khrushchev years and the shift in the official party line with the denunciation of Stalin. I don’t even really see him as a proper troll, proper trolls rile people up. To me he’s more of a failed attempt at a troll.
Gadzooks. Are there any original-thinking communists left?
What boggles my mind with him is his alleged devotion to communism, when he’s not really a communist.
He’s a totalitarianist, if such a beast exists.
His only requirements appear to be:
1- Centralized power, preferably in a small ruling group or individual.
2- Stand against the US and other “Western Powers”.
That’s it. HE doesn’t really seem to care about anything else, and he has in numerous threads all but admitted his support for mass murder and gulags as “necessary” to create his Utopia.
Also important to note is that in his Utopia, he’s part of the elite. That’s why he would never go to N. Korea, or Venezuela, or his own beloved Belarus… he wouldn’t be on top, and I suspect that he is aware that as soon as he complained, he would be up against the wall.
And also, as an American Citizen, he wouldn’t be particularly welcome in at least 2 of those locations. Try as he might, wave the blood soaked Soviet Flag all he wants, he can’t wash off the taint of Americanization.
Assuming, of course, that he isn’t the gigantic troll who thinks he’s clever that he so much appears to be.
I have to agree with a lot of you. Ex Tank and, I think Siam Sam, brought up Der Trihs and I thought that was interesting. I often find myself, silently, disagreeing with Der Trihs but, unlike Commissar, Der Trihs makes me actually think the topic through. Shit I’ve even occasionally found myself agreeing with Der Trihs.
Commissar is just a kid IMHO giggling at the reaction he gets from all of us. He’s a troll and a rather bland one at that.
You seem to be finding a false contradiction here. I have never made it a secret that I am personally of the authoritarian Communist bend. I am strongly in favor of one-party rule - i.e., what you would likely call “totalitarianism.” Most of the time, this means one-party rule where the ruling party is Communist (think PRC, Cuba, Vietnam, etc.). However, I will also support one-party rule where the party itself is non-socialist but I deem it to be benefiting its people anyway. Thus, I also support the governments of Iran and Libya, for example.
All of this should only surprise you if you are of the opinion that human beings are somehow inherently limited to only ever supporting a single narrow form of government. I do not share such a simplex view. Human existence is complicated, and there will occasionally be different ways to adequately address pressing issues.
In conclusion, I am a Communist first and foremost, but I will unashamedly continue to support non-Communist authoritarian states that I believe to be in the best interests of their people.
Way to let your ideology blind you when it comes to reality.
Venezuela abolished the death penalty in 1863: http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0777460.html
Belarus executions are a once-in-a-blue-moon event; 0 in 2009, 2 in 2010: Capital punishment in Belarus - Wikipedia
I am far more likely to be murdered by the state while I remain in the Empire. In 2010 alone, in put 46 (mostly indigent minority) individuals to death: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/documents/2010YearEnd-Final.pdf [pdf]
But do feel free to ignore reality when it contradicts your dogma. I don’t mean to take that away from you.
Shut up, you fucking troll.
It helps if you imagine that if you happened to be in one of these countries, your natural and obvious talents would elevate you to a position of power and privilege, as opposed to being one of those schmoes who gets reported for unorthodox thought by a small-time sycophant to a local committee, leading to a few weeks or months in some unheated jail without legal counsel, being beaten for the thuggish amusement of a few guards, to be released when they get tired of feeding you and return to your insignificant life, having learned to keep your mouth shut.
That’s hardly a winning argument against one-party rule. Unjust detentions, deprivation of basic rights, and extra-judicial punishments can happen absolutely anywhere – and representative capitalist democracies can dish them out just as well as any autocratic state. Hell, just take a look at what the Empire’s “War on Terror” has turned into: mindless wars halfway around the world, concentration camps run by the army, military tribunals instead of criminal trials, torture, Presidentially-ordered murders, citizens treated as “enemy combatants” (itself a category cynically created to undermine the nation’s Geneva Conventions obligations), suspension of rights to the point that the country is devolving into a police state (National Security Letters, anyone?)… The list goes on and on.
Sure, but though these occur in the liberal democracies, we can discuss them freely and mechanisms exists to challenge their legality. Try living in North Korea or Libya or Iran or Cuba and openly discussing how unfair secret arrests and indefinite detentions are.
Go on, try it. I dare you.
I double dare you.
Commissar, Iran doesn’t have “one party rule”.
Moreover, no real communist would support the rule of reactionary mullahs.
Wherever you get your information from, you need to get better sources.
Seriously, you actually could make a very good troll if you did better research.
For example, if you actually studied up on Russian culture more you’d have been able to convince people you really were a Russian immigrant rather than merely an American(quite probably a teenager) with far too much time on his hands who liked to pretend to be Russian.
As it is, you fucked up and made mistakes that no actual Russian would make.
Similarly, if you actually researched Russian Communist propaganda better then you’d be able to come across like a real communist rather than merely someone doing a bad impression of one.
Anyway, make us all proud and do some research.
I know trolling on the internet is a really poor substitute for the sex you’re not having and the hanging with friends you don’t have, but if you put some time and effort into it, you really could be a good troll and maybe gain some sense of satisfaction.
Would that have been your reply to someone who posted this?