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Bizarre. He must have a mental issue because it’s hard to believe you’d have higher degrees in the biomedical sciences and be anti-vaxx. Is he anti-“big pharma” too?
Alternatively, terrified of needles, and as a macho man does not want to admit it. I know others in this situation. Many big tough macho men do not want to faint over a little needle, so they make up all kinds of other bullshit excuses.
I knew a virologist in the early 80s who was technically against influenza vaccination for young, healthy adults. Her argument was that a single influenza infection would protect someone against that strain and give better protection against other strains than the vaccine available at that time.
She admitted that her idea fell apart once herd immunity was a consideration, but her arguments were interesting nonetheless.
Isn’t “young, healthy adults” a group that was most harmed by the 1918 H1N1 epidemic?
About a third of the time, hubs passes out when he gets shots. This doesn’t stop him from being a heavily tattooed, bearded biker with gauged ears. I was with him for his booster (I always go with him if there’s a chance he’s going to get an injection, folks often freak when he passes out and he needs me there to keep things calm.) and out he went. As long as he’s sitting or laying down, its not a big deal.
He had to be fully vaccinated to go to school, so he survived it once. He joined the Marines and got every single childhood shot again and a lot of other stuff and survived. He got out of the Marines and stayed out long enough that he had to go through an abbreviated boot camp when he went back in, which included getting fully vaccinated yet again.
He’s a poster child for vaccinations don’t hurt anyone, fer crying out loud.
I’m saying all that to say that fear of needles is often just an excuse, and a pretty lame one in most cases.
I think that in many cases, the covidiots drank the koolaid early on and are just too stubborn to back down now.
I 100% agree.
If you’re too ‘macho’ to ask for help because you’re afraid of needles, I’ve got no nothing for you. Tell the nurse/pharmacist giving you the vaccine, we will provide privacy and have lots of tricks up our starched white sleeves to get you through, but you gotta tell us.
Yes! I’ve been with hubs for almost 40 years. No shot-giver ever been anything but supportive when told about hubs. Usually as soon as the words leave one of our mouths, they are heading off for a better chair or to find an empty bed or gurney. Nobody has ever even suggested that he was faking or being a drama llama, they just wanted him to be comfortable and safe during the process.
How about if the shot giver applies a heated curling iron to the back of your neck for 10 seconds to distract you from the teeny-weeny pinprick in your arm?
That shot giver needs reporting to their licensing authority before you leave the building and also the police.
I once had a shot-giver tap my back with her fingers while she was injecting lidocaine, which can be a little painful going in. She told me the purpose was to distract me and my nerves from the injection. I think it helped.
She also asked me if i wanted to lie down for the actual biopsy of the mole. I asked why I’d want to, and she said it was in case i might pass out. I assured her I’d be fine just sitting there.
Nah, they’re just helping distract the scaredy cat from the mean ol’ shot. Maybe they could just threaten to apply the hot curling iron?
Or maybe shoot off a starter pistol behind scaredy cat’s head right before the needle goes in?
When my dentist is giving a shot, he’ll take your cheek and pinch it and vibrate it a little. Really helps.
Distraction-- that’s what it’s about.
Mine does this too and I think it helps, even though I know what he’s up to.
It was, indeed which it was why it hit WWI military camps and front lines particularly hard. It – and to a lesser extent, COVID – can trigger a cytokine storm where your immune system overreacts and the young and healthy tend towards robust immune systems. Here is a six-part (about an hour total) history of the 1918 pandemic where I first heard the term.
Note, this was put out in 2018, before anyone had heard of COVID-19.
Thanks for the link!
Yes, some people are just afraid of needles, which is why I cannot understand why the television news insists on broadcasting pictures that show an extreme close up of a needle going into someone’s arm. I’d like to tell the newscasters, draw back and show the person getting the shot. In most instances they don’t even flinch or wince.
He isn’t afraid of needles at all. I’ve watched him get lots of shots and IVs in the past and not only doesn’t he mind, he actually looks. That’s where I draw the line. Needles don’t bother me but I would never just watch them go in. I agree that’s not the best visual for television.
Anyway, it’s been a long weekend with a lot of arguing and I’m just tired. Now he’s saying he’ll rethink things in a year or so when it’s “fully tested”. Whatever dumbass, he can do what he wants and I’ll hope for the best. I just can’t maintain that level of conflict with him. Luckily his job not only requires a mask but usually full hazmat gear so at least that’s something. I’m glad I posted and I’ll still participate in this and other topics in the future but I’m done trying to reason with him for now.
We are glad you posted as well. Your fear and frustration are very understandable. It’s probably best to not argue with him about it, if your husband is anything like mine, arguing just makes him more stubborn and less likely to listen. I’m sorry our husbands choose to be part of the control group of the experiment but there comes a time when we have to just let it go.
I hope that when your husband comes down with COVID that its an easy case that doesn’t require hospitalization.
Another one today who knows someone who was a perfectly healthy 30 year old who got vaccinated and died two days later. I asked for the specific cause of death but she didn’t know. She just knows that healthy people are dying from the vaccine and she doesn’t want to put anything foreign into her body. There are so many young people dying from the vaccine? Why can’t I find any trace of them on the internet?
Not sure this is the most accurate way of stating this.
Did she die of covid? If she died two days later, she probably already had covid. I think some apparently healthy people have died in spite of having had the covid vaccine, usually because they were immunocompromised in some way.