Could you remain friends with someone who faked cancer?

A male friend of mine faked pancreatic cancer about 18 months ago. He wove a very elaborate and plausible web of lies to everyone in his life: brothers, son, ex-wife, co-workers, bosses and friends. He cooked up fake radiation and chemo, a fake oncologist, and it was very believable at the time because he was losing a lot of weight and obviously ill. I don’t know for sure but I believe the only reason he still has his job (white collar managerial) despite all the lies and time off is because the company can’t fire him because he can claim some sort of disability.

For whatever reason, I was his main outlet for angst, suicide threats, weepy phone calls and visits and so on. It was, at the time, a very stressful period in my life…especially since 5 months previously I (or we - he knew her also) had lost a very dear friend to ovarian cancer. I was very saddened that it appeared that I was losing another good friend to cancer, and I felt quite helpless.

Like everyone else in his life, I bought it hook, line and sinker. Along with other people in his life, I cooked him food appropriate for someone with pancreatic cancer, tried to arrange visits to support groups, offered any and all support possible, gave him a shoulder to cry on, literally, about a dozen times - pancreatic cancer is not one of your more fun cancers.

After about three months of drama, he wound up in the emergency room with liver ascites and in life-threatening DTs. The whole cancer drama? No cancer. The whole thing was an elaborate charade to cover up chronic, and well-disguised alcoholism that almost killed him. That all came out when he ended up in the ER.

At the time, friends and I decided that no matter what the cause, he was a very sick man and we would support him. By his own account he has been sober now for about 18 months - with AA although not working the program, and therapy - and is doing well physically.

However. He has never once, not ever, apologised for his behaviour. Not once acknowledged that his lies affected anyone else. When I called him on that, the only thing he said was that he’d “acted like a jerk.” Then changed the subject. He refuses to talk about it, beyond giving me updates on his sobriety date and how he’s doing medically. His son and ex-wife have, it seems, forgiven him…but the last time I went with him to a company picnic, it looked to me like his co-workers treated him as a pariah.

Over the last year, I’ve felt my friendship slipping and I’ve barely spent any time with him. For a while I felt badly about that, but recently I’ve felt like just telling him that his apparent refusal to take responsibility for being an utter shit has just killed a good, seven-year friendship…which has always been 100 percent platonic BTW - but basically, I am angry, finally.

Angry that he faked cancer so soon after a good mutual friend died after fighting it for almost two years. Angry that he’s refused to realise that his histrionics seriously impacted other people. And that he didn’t trust people in his life with the truth - any of us would have been understanding and supportive if he’d simply come forward with the truth - that his drinking had gotten out of control. And angry about being lied to!

I know it looks as if I’m asking for “permission” to let this friendship go, but now that I’ve written it down it seems clear to me.

I’d still be interested in hearing how you think you’d respond to this situation, though.

That is so bizarre.

I’d probably remain friends with him if I wanted to, and not if I didn’t. I wouldn’t feel obligated to.

Nope, that’d do it.

When I was younger, I’d probably have tried to salvage the friendship. Now that I’m in my fifties, I’d probably figure that I don’t have time for that kind of bullshit in my life, and I’d cut my losses. I don’t think you’d have anything to apologize for if you decided to let this one go.

I would not forgive him. If he had just been vague about it and sorta white-lie-ed to avoid answering direct questions, that’s one thing. But making up elaborate stories about fake radiation and chemo sessions is sociopathic. Run away.

Sounds like he missed two of the steps in the AA program: Make a list of all persons you have harmed, and became willing to make amends to them all. and Make direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

How can there be any doubt? The guy took advantage of everyone who cared about him, and prayed on your sympathy and compassion. Is that something a “friend” does?

Heh. I love how you guys cut through the bullshit. :slight_smile:

I think that I would be able to forgive him and let go of the anger I had toward him, for my own sake. I am not sure I would be able to maintain the level of friendship we once had. This would be especially true if he had never apologized for admitted that what he did was wrong.

Not a chance. I nursed my father through cancer at the end of his life and anyone who would fake that for sympathy is not someone I want to associate with.

Wait, aren’t you glad he didn’t really have pancreatic cancer and that he’s not dead? Because it seems like not being his friend anymore because he lied to you means you’d actually rather he had cancer, and someone with pancreatic cancer would probably have died by now.

It this happened with one of my good friends I would tell him I wish he hadn’t lied to me but I’m glad he’s not dead.

I could be glad someone’s not dead without necessarily trusting that person or wanting to maintain a friendship with him. Given that this person isn’t showing any signs of remorse, I’d have to assume that the next time he wanted to get sympathy or attention or otherwise extract something from his friends and loved ones, he’d do the same thing - or something else just as slimy - to achieve his goal.

Letting go of the anger is a good idea. It’s possible to do that without setting yourself up to be taken again.

OP, is this guy normally a huge drama queen? I just can’t imagine someone who otherwise seems fairly normal doing something like this.

If he’d shown any sign of taking responsibility for what he did to others I’d give him a little longer. Since he hasn’t, I’d forgive him because it takes too much energy not to, but he no longer would be in my life. He can’t be trusted - that’s no friend and not worth wasting any more time and energy.

When my former friend came to me afterward and apologised for the affair she had had with my then-husband and begged my forgiveness, at first I thought the right thing to do was to be a bigger person, to forgive her and allow her back into my life. Then one day I woke up and the very first thought in my mind that day was “Why embrace toxic people? Why welcome toxicity into your life?”. I cut ties instantly - climbed out of bed, blocked her on email, Facebook and my phone - and I have never seen or spoken to her again. I had been trying to forgive her because I was mourning the loss of a friend and a friendship, but that was no reason to clutch a viper to my breast. That moment of clarity when I realised she was not worthy of my friendship, that was my first sensible thought in months and I have never regretted it for a moment.

Yeah, I think forgiveness can be overrated. You aren’t obligated to forgive everyone for everything. Certainly not if they haven’t even apologized meaningfully, and not necessarily even if they have. You can let go of it for your own good, but you don’t have to keep them in your life.

I only said I’d keep being friends with the guy if I wanted to because I know how I am, not because I think that’s actually a good idea. I’m in touch, intimately, with someone who more-or-less threatened to kill me once, so obviously no one should go by me.

I think I’ve forgiven, in the sense that I no longer waste energy on hating or resenting her. I never even think of her except when memory is prompted by someone else’s experience. I wish her no ill, and have no desire to see her come to harm.

I also don’t value her friendship any longer. I now see she’s the kind of person who will take anything she wants from you just because she wants it - and that she’ll cry and beg forgiveness afterward not because she’s sorry that she hurt you, but because she wants you to go on being there for her and giving to her. That’s what I mean by toxic. She’s forgiven, but we can’t be friends any more because I now know more about her character and I’ve realised she’s not someone I care to have in my life.

I’m big on personal responsibility, so it would be the lack of owning up to his heinous shenanigans that would be the deal breaker. No remorse? No apology? No trying to make things right by the people that he hurt? Yeah, I’d be out of there.

With the loss of respect and trust comes the end of friendship.

chiroptera, consider the anger you’re feeling as toxic as the bullshit he cooked up for you and everyone else and drop it like a burning hot ouch-ouch potato. He pretended he had poison in his system. You don’t have to do it to yourself for real.

Jeez. I finished a friendship with someone who ran over a cat and was “too tired” to do anything but watch it struggling in her rear view mirror. I watched her disappear in mine after that.

I could go either way on the faking cancer thing, but that, I would definitely end a friendship over :frowning: